France Wants To Ban Full Head Covering On Muslim Women


taxslave
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Quote: Originally Posted by hermanntrudeView Post

The simple solution is to try to get France to ban France.

I would settle for them to ban speaking french. Especially in Canada. Tough enough figuring out what the frenchies from Quebec are saying but the European ones are impossible. Especially when you tie one hand down. Makes them stutttter.
 
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Quote: Originally Posted by dumpthemonarchyView Post

Set up a day and time for your g/God/dess to do something I can see and judge. I am a thinking person, this shouldn't be too hard to do.

And what has nationalism achieved besides cultural genocide of its minorities?

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Nations are real. France is real. Japan is real. Ethiopia is real. Languages are real. Borders are real, people make countries and they create huge amounts of evidence to enforce their existence. It is what people decide, and sure, boundaries can and do change but they are real where they are.

Thanks for the confirmation. You yourself are confirming that the nation is but a creation of the human imagination.

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Every country has codes of behaviour for dress and socializing. You have to live in another country to find out what we do here if is often considered quaint or useless in another country. Numbers are important, if I see many women wear burkas I will protest much more strongly.

So if something doesn't conform to your conditioned imagination of what ought to be, you must protest? By the way, I don't profess islam myself, but I'm just pointing out that we cannot even prove the existence of the nation based on science, only on the figment of our collective imagination, and so make it such. How is that belief any different from religious belief?

Quote: Originally Posted by dumpthemonarchyView Post

Good for France. We are permitted to make rules and decide on immigration, it is not a holy subject that any dissent is considered racism. This furthers my idea people consider the federal gov't the new Roman Catholic Church and any dissent which used to be heresy is now bigotry. This limits intelligent discussion on an important topic of the day. You won't be censoring me.

Like I said, Algerians prior to independence were not immigrants, since Algeria was a department of france, similar to a Canadian province in a sence, so those born in Algeria weren't immigrants when they'd gone to France. Just as you'd confirmed above, nations are defined by us, and so if Algerias was defined as a part of france at the time, then guess what, it was a part of France.
 
petros
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Quote: Originally Posted by SaxonView Post

My good man, I hereby challenge you to visit Saudi Arabia, a fully Muslim state, and wear a Christian cross openly. Do not come crying to me when some Arab asshole beats the living crap out of you. Tell me, do you get my point? You will the moment the Arab bastards are caving in your skull with their boots.

The solution is simple. Ban all religion immediately!

So if I go to Church in Suadi Arabia I'll be beaten? Does it matter which denomination?
 
petros
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Quote: Originally Posted by taxslaveView Post

I would settle for them to ban speaking french. Especially in Canada. Tough enough figuring out what the frenchies from Quebec are saying but the European ones are impossible. Especially when you tie one hand down. Makes them stutttter.

You really aren't paranoid about what people are saying in their language are you? Would it be the same sort of things you say in your language when others are around who don't speak your language?
 
Andem
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Quote: Originally Posted by SaxonView Post

The solution is simple. Ban all religion immediately!

I have a better idea: Let's just ban you. A show of hands?
 
petros
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Quote: Originally Posted by SaxonView Post

But of course you will. Arabs are not exactly a bright people.

So why did they build Churches?
 
lone wolf
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Quote: Originally Posted by andemView Post

i have a better idea: Let's just ban you. A show of hands?


aye!
 
petros
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Arabs build churches? Since when?

Yuuuuuup. Since the 50's. Where have you been hiding that you didn't know that?
 
petros
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Purdy ain't it?
 
lone wolf
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Mods are gonna have to wash the walls again.....
 
petros
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Quote: Originally Posted by SaxonView Post

It would be 'purdier' were it to be reduced to rubble.

Rubble like America?
 
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Quote: Originally Posted by CliffyView Post

Ah, believers are so thick. There were several christian sects when Constantine decided to put the bible together in his own image and create the Roman catholic church. He left out all the other christian writings of the time to suit his own political motivations (to keep the christians that followed Paul - Paulianity) from tearing his empire apart. He also translated the writings to suit himself so most of the none sense about Peter being the foundation of the church is as nonsensical as the rest. Even Constantine did not become a christian until his death bed. When are you going to stop believing in fairy tales?


Oh leave the Christians out of it for once, we don't need outlaws running around with their faces covered.
Off with their heads. oops Burka's
 
taxslave
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I vote we ban clothing on women, and for Clify, wool on sheep.
 
Trex
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Well one thing for sure about the French, they like France.

The French tend to take holidays at home in France.
They prefer France to other places.
People from other countries, on the other hand, tend to differ and leave their home countries to visit France.
That says something about France right there.

The French feel that they have very good wine, food, fashion, arts, architecture, entertainment ,climate and so forth and so on right at home.
Their medical system is reckoned to be one of the best and the French are famous for "working to live as versus living to work"
In other words they like short workdays and lots and lots of holidays and time off.

Now I am not French so its not really for me to say but all in all the French seem to have worked out a fairly good arrangement for themselves.

Others in this thread have pointed out how a very large cohort of Muslims came to residing in France.
Cities like Marseilles for example have huge Muslim populations.
By far the vast majority of these Muslim residents have adapted extremely well and are happy residents of France.
The religious extremists however are not happy and are not adapting well.
They of course feel that France should change and adopt fundamental Muslim religious and cultural norms.

The Burka is not historically associated with the Muslim religion, it is however a reasonably new piece of clothing designed and insisted upon by the Muslim far religious right.

The French feel it is disruptive in school and university as it prevents the teachers from really seeing who they are talking to.
By hiding facial expressions you hide one of humankind's most effective non verbal forms of communication.

The police and security forces hate it as they have no idea who they are dealing with.

Customs and immigration hate it as they have no idea who they are dealing with.

It totally invalidates the French CCV security systems as nobody has any clue who they are looking at and so on.

On top of that the average Frenchman has no interest whatsoever in changing how France operates.
The French feel the Burka is a symbol of an unbending religious extremism.
And the French have no plans at all of changing their secular society.

Thus the Burka is not that popular with Joe sixpack in France.

Trex
 
Cliffy
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Quote: Originally Posted by taxslaveView Post

I vote we ban clothing on women, and for Clify, wool on sheep.

I think women are sexier with cloths and sheep look pathetic without wool. And I'm Canadian born with British ancestry, not Scottish!
 
Cliffy
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Burka, Burka, Jihad!
 
missile
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To me, this is a security issue..you could hide a lot of explosives under such a loose fitting garment like this. But,if the ladies can't be bothered to shave their hairy legs and armpits,let them cover everything up
 
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Quote: Originally Posted by CannuckView Post

The issue is about forcing women to wear them. If these people are forced to do it then it would be just as wrong. Another issue is identification. A woman could wear a babushka when her drivers license picture was taken and it could still be used as a reasonable source of identification.


You are absolutely right. You know, don't you, that they make you take off your sunglasses when you have your driver's license made in Texas? In one of those severe black getups (our Texas name for it) - you couldn't tell one person from another - even men from women. But...you wouldn't have to worry about that zit, that you needed to wash your hair, or that you needed to shave your legs. Man, I can think of a thousand reasons to wear one, but none of them good.

Uncle
 
dumpthemonarchy
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Canada prevented the introduction of Sharia law in Canada a few years back, that was a major victory. The burka now are small potatoes in comparison.

Yet we have signs here immigrants are getting too aggressive in bringing their culture to Canada. Why come to Canada if you don't want to become Canadian? And becoming Canadian should be changed from 3 years to five to ten years to get citizenship.
 
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Yep, I say get rid of all foreign influence. I can't stand Chinese food, Greek food, Christmas, lasagna, soccer, etc. Should have stuck to bison on corn bannock, salmon, and lacrosse. lmao
 
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I think the majority of the anti Burka posts in here are made by Xenophobic post 9/11 truma victims .

if any of you actually studied the Islamic religion it states that a woman should cover herself modestly ,the wearing of a burka is purely voluntary,i also would like to point out to the idiot that said how will there own children recognize their own mother when only seeing her for 1/4 of their life,That they do not wear the Burka when in the safety or confines of there own house you moron
 
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Quote: Originally Posted by missileView Post

To me, this is a security issue..you could hide a lot of explosives under such a loose fitting garment like this. But,if the ladies can't be bothered to shave their hairy legs and armpits,let them cover everything up

Missile, the objection here is not to lose fitting garments, but only to burka, the covering of face. Even if France bans burka, loose fitting garments will still be permitted.

So your objection does not make sense. Even if burka is banned, somebody could still hide plenty of explosives under loose fitting garments. As long as the garment doesn’t cover the face, leaves the face exposed, there is no problem.
 
SirJosephPorter
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Canada prevented the introduction of Sharia law in Canada a few years back, that was a major victory. The burka now are small potatoes in comparison.

I quite agree dumpthemonarchy. To me, it doesn’t make sense to impose a blanket ban on burka. Sharia of course had to be stopped.

Yet we have signs here immigrants are getting too aggressive in bringing their culture to Canada. Why come to Canada if you don't want to become Canadian?

And what is wrong with immigrants bringing their culture to Canada? It adds more colour, more diversity to Canadian society and it should be welcome. I for one wouldn’t want to go back to the lily white, homogenous country of 50 or 100 years ago.

At the same time, their culture must obey our laws, the Charter and the constitution. However, provided it doesn’t come into conflict with any of these, I think every attempt should be made to accommodate their culture in the mainstream.
 
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George galloway 's challenge to His Critics


YouTube - George galloway s challenge to His Critics




watch this it talks about the burka also
 
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Quote: Originally Posted by Ron in ReginaView Post

I have one of those!!! But mine is electric (watch batteries) to power the LED lights.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Shheeeeewt, Those dang LEDS! They give us away every Friday night when we go out ta cow tippin'... doncha HATE when that happens up in the Great Northern?
But hey bro, I got five the other night- one longhorn stuck in the mud till mornin'! Hilarious!!
 
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Burkas are easy,

Back in the 30's when we had the Scots wanting to wear their kilts in the city, we got the teens to harass them, rough em' up bit... the 80's the turbin was removed...
the city never prosecuted them so.... hey it worked. lol !!!

Seriously, I did get a nice serape once, it is hangin' in my closet from YEARS AGO as a result, it is real nice.
I wear it on taco nights! lol!!! (I am so so sorry Lord!)

*and... No Cliffy, I don't do that anymore!
 
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Quote: Originally Posted by Ron in ReginaView Post

I wonder how somethng like this would fit into ID for voting??? That could be
Osama Bin Ladin or George W. Bush under there...and who would know???

Posing forthe picture? Smile and say "Cheese!!!"



P.S. I too had to produce photo ID in order to vote in the last Federal Election.

I tried to get my passport renewed with this photo but they just laughed and asked if I was nuts.



They's just hating on Whitey!
 
AnnaG
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Quote: Originally Posted by SirJosephPorterView Post

And what is wrong with immigrants bringing their culture to Canada? It adds more colour, more diversity to Canadian society and it should be welcome.

Yup.
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I for one wouldn’t want to go back to the lily white, homogenous country of 50 or 100 years ago.

Me either. Means I'd be a lot older than I am by now.
OOOPPS Sorry. I said I would be totally serious with you. Scuse, please.

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At the same time, their culture must obey our laws, the Charter and the constitution. However, provided it doesn’t come into conflict with any of these, I think every attempt should be made to accommodate their culture in the mainstream.

Yup again.
 
dumpthemonarchy
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Quote: Originally Posted by SirJosephPorterView Post

Canada prevented the introduction of Sharia law in Canada a few years back, that was a major victory. The burka now are small potatoes in comparison.

I quite agree dumpthemonarchy. To me, it doesn’t make sense to impose a blanket ban on burka. Sharia of course had to be stopped.

Yet we have signs here immigrants are getting too aggressive in bringing their culture to Canada. Why come to Canada if you don't want to become Canadian?

And what is wrong with immigrants bringing their culture to Canada? It adds more colour, more diversity to Canadian society and it should be welcome. I for one wouldn’t want to go back to the lily white, homogenous country of 50 or 100 years ago.

At the same time, their culture must obey our laws, the Charter and the constitution. However, provided it doesn’t come into conflict with any of these, I think every attempt should be made to accommodate their culture in the mainstream.

I saw two women wearing burkas today in a mall and I do not like them, but they are few in number so they are okay.

Immigrants bring their culture to Canada when they move here, they can't help it because they don't become Canadians overnight, some times not ever. I couldn't become Japanese or Italian if I moved to those countries, ever.

Size matters, numbers matter. There is a difference in allowing people to be themselves when they move to Canada and those who want to work the system and use tax dollars to maintain their culture.

Want your own religious schools, no problem, pay for it yourself. Want to learn your old country's language, no problem, pay for it yourself. No tax dollars should go here, especially nowadays.
 
AnnaG
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France Wants To Ban Full Head Covering On Muslim Women


lol France's gov't has its own head covering ..... between the cheeks.
 

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