#1Jun 20th, 2009
Has anyone ever thaught about building MASSIVE waterducts throughout North America, from places where we have tons of FLOODS, so we can just flow it into area's that are experiencing water deficits or "droughts".
Good Idea?
Massive waterduct, would save our economy billions.
Has anyone ever thaught about building MASSIVE waterducts throughout North America, from places where we have tons of FLOODS, so we can just flow it into area's that are experiencing water deficits or "droughts".
Good Idea?
#2
Re: Massive waterduct, would save our economy billions.
Jun 20th, 2009
Water is a precious commodity. Those that want it, fight with those who have it. Diverting water from one place to another will change the ecology of both areas, and not necessarily for the better.
The solution is for people to live where they have what they need.
The solution is for people to live where they have what they need.
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#3
Re: Massive waterduct, would save our economy billions.
Jun 20th, 2009
Why do some people love MASSIVE water projects? As long as it doesn't require MASSIVE subsidies, but they always do. Why not adjust to local conditions?
One reason why the US has massive floods along the Mississippi river for example, is that they have straightened many of the curves in it. By doing this, the volume of water is the same, but the route it takes is shorter, so voila, huge floods. No mystery here.
So with a straighter route along the Miss R, barges along save time and money by a shorter quicker route, but there is another price to pay. More floods.
One reason why the US has massive floods along the Mississippi river for example, is that they have straightened many of the curves in it. By doing this, the volume of water is the same, but the route it takes is shorter, so voila, huge floods. No mystery here.
So with a straighter route along the Miss R, barges along save time and money by a shorter quicker route, but there is another price to pay. More floods.
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#4
Re: Massive waterduct, would save our economy billions.
Jun 20th, 2009Quote: Originally Posted by Sublime
Two big problems, both environmental. First you must have a place to store that water until such time it is needed. That means flooding whole valleys. Second and more important is that many species of fish require that lower salinity in the estuaries for at least part of their live span. This is why there is a limit to how much water can be taken out of a river for export.There's are so many places south of the border that go through an annual drying up/ drought every year.
Has anyone ever thaught about building MASSIVE waterducts throughout North America, from places where we have tons of FLOODS, so we can just flow it into area's that are experiencing water deficits or "droughts".
Good Idea?
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#5
Re: Massive waterduct, would save our economy billions.
Jun 20th, 2009Quote: Originally Posted by Sublime
Water does not make enough money as oil, yet. Investors will shirk from the RESPONSIBILTY. No massive duct system will pay for itself until a profit can be shown for it. You are right tho, we would effect the country for good if the Spirit was willing. The Midwest here in US and therefore world food consumers would BLOOM for the effortThere's are so many places south of the border that go through an annual drying up/ drought every year.
Has anyone ever thaught about building MASSIVE waterducts throughout North America, from places where we have tons of FLOODS, so we can just flow it into area's that are experiencing water deficits or "droughts".
Good Idea?
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#6
Re: Massive waterduct, would save our economy billions.
Jun 20th, 2009
The flooding in Manitoba causes that area to have some of the best farmland in the world. Diverting water away from there would have negative consequences.
It's an over simplification to say that for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction but it is apropos.
It's an over simplification to say that for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction but it is apropos.
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#7
Re: Massive waterduct, would save our economy billions.
Jun 21st, 2009
Why do people move to dustbowls and expect to live in a green and pleasant land? Funny.
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#8
Re: Massive waterduct, would save our economy billions.
Jun 21st, 2009
Because they can
#9
Re: Massive waterduct, would save our economy billions.
Jun 21st, 2009
And America is draining our fresh water as we speak and they are helping out the U.S. drought area and Canada can't do anything about it
Last edited by Liberalman; Jun 21st, 2009 at 03:47 PM..Reason: ....
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#10
Re: Massive waterduct, would save our economy billions.
Jun 21st, 2009Quote: Originally Posted by Liberalman
Where is the us draining our water?And America is draining our fresh water as we speak and they are helping out the U.S. drought area and Canada can't do anything about it
#11
Re: Massive waterduct, would save our economy billions.
Jun 21st, 2009
From the American side our water just slides intothe U.S. side
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#12
Re: Massive waterduct, would save our economy billions.
Jun 21st, 2009Quote: Originally Posted by Liberalman
Do you have anything scientific to back up your politicking?From the American side our water just slides intothe U.S. side
#13
Re: Massive waterduct, would save our economy billions.
Jun 21st, 2009
The Niagra is a great example of water management battles for over 120 years.
#14
Re: Massive waterduct, would save our economy billions.
Jun 21st, 2009
Cannuck
Scientific proof? How about gravity?
Get a clear plastic tube bend it and fill it with water and you will see it level on both sides take some water from one side and the other side of the level will go down.
I would give you the exact scientific formulation but I think you understand the concept.
Scientific proof? How about gravity?
Get a clear plastic tube bend it and fill it with water and you will see it level on both sides take some water from one side and the other side of the level will go down.
I would give you the exact scientific formulation but I think you understand the concept.
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#15
Re: Massive waterduct, would save our economy billions.
Jun 21st, 2009
Again, nice dodge. Your name suits you.
#16
Re: Massive waterduct, would save our economy billions.
Jun 23rd, 2009
Diverting water in massive quantities is never a good idea. You get end users who become accustomed to the water, and their customers who become accustomed to what is done with the water. They can't live without it, and it becomes very hard to halt the flow of water. When that water is gone, you now have two areas, with no water, instead of just one.
Take a look at the disappearance of the Aral Sea. This was a great sea(formerly 4th largest freshwater lake in the world), that has vanished as it's water was shipped to frontier regions of Russia to grow cotton and other crops in what used to be a desert. You can see this happening in California as well, a large source of North Americas out of season fruits and vegetables, grown using water shipped from far away, with the water sources all drying up.
Take a look at the disappearance of the Aral Sea. This was a great sea(formerly 4th largest freshwater lake in the world), that has vanished as it's water was shipped to frontier regions of Russia to grow cotton and other crops in what used to be a desert. You can see this happening in California as well, a large source of North Americas out of season fruits and vegetables, grown using water shipped from far away, with the water sources all drying up.
#17
Re: Massive waterduct, would save our economy billions.
Jun 23rd, 2009
4 of 5 major rivers no longer make it to the ocean.
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#18
Re: Massive waterduct, would save our economy billions.
Jun 23rd, 2009Quote: Originally Posted by TenPenny
Exactly.Water is a precious commodity. Those that want it, fight with those who have it. Diverting water from one place to another will change the ecology of both areas, and not necessarily for the better.
The solution is for people to live where they have what they need.
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