Government Force CBC to buy US programs


Liberalman
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I was watching the CBC evening news with Dianne Swain and she said that because of the economic downturn the media outlets are suffering and in the news clip I learned that CTV is closing down two TV stations in southern Ontario and trying to sell another one.

Global or Canwest has put the short-lived E-Channel up for sale.

The Canadian Broadcasting Corporation or the CBC paid for by the Canadian taxpayer will be showing more cheap American made TV shows.

Harper’s American boot licking Conservatives still don’t get it America is our neighbor America is not our nation.

CBC was started early because of complaints that TV was not available in all areas so the Government of the day set up the network and provided top quality Canadian programming.

Over the years other networks came onto the Canadian landscape to the more lucrative markets and offered more American programming but CBC stuck with their Canadian made quality programming.

Now because of the economic turmoil advertising revenues are down, our Conservative government is ready to shut down Canada’s entertainment industry just like the Diefenbaker’s Conservatives shut down the Avro Arrow the Canadian made fighter jet program just to appease the Americans.

During the past federal election Stephen Harper did say that the Canadian entertainment is not worth assisting because all they do is go to gala’s and get drunk which cost him the majority so I have to presume that this is his way to pay them back.

CBC should continue to produce Canadian made shows.

The Conservative appointed president of the CBC said that the American made TV programs will be a lead into Canadian made programs which no one really believes judging from the grim faces of the CBC reporters that was sprinkled through the crowd of employees listening to the message they didn’t believe it.

CBC is all about our engilsh and french Canadian culture and it is worthwhile to save it.
 
RanchHand
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Ah, the Canadian mindset at work.
"
Government Force CBC to buy US programs"


How is it being done? Guns? Bombs?

Here's what I read in The Star.
"More ads, more American programming, selling or downgrading parts of its TV/radio services and consolidating local stations are all on the table".

Your thread title might as well have been written by the Pravda city desk.
You say :
"paid for by the Canadian taxpayer will be showing more cheap American made TV shows."
Well if you could afford the quality American made TV shows then you could afford to make your own shows? No?

You say:
"our Conservative government is ready to shut down Canada’s entertainment industry just like the Diefenbaker’s Conservatives shut down the Avro Arrow the Canadian made fighter jet program just to appease the Americans."

I think to an American reading your post, and a few other articles on the subject, the reason is an internal Canadian financial issue. If the Canadian mindset is such that the reason can be attributed to you government shutting down your entertainment industry to appease the Americans, can you point me to your sources for this Canadian claim?
 
CDNBear
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Quote: Originally Posted by LiberalmanView Post

I was watching the CBC evening news with Dianne Swain and she said that because of the economic downturn the media outlets are suffering and in the news clip I learned that CTV is closing down two TV stations in southern Ontario and trying to sell another one.

Global or Canwest has put the short-lived E-Channel up for sale.

The Canadian Broadcasting Corporation or the CBC paid for by the Canadian taxpayer will be showing more cheap American made TV shows.

Harper’s American boot licking Conservatives still don’t get it America is our neighbor America is not our nation.

CBC was started early because of complaints that TV was not available in all areas so the Government of the day set up the network and provided top quality Canadian programming.

Over the years other networks came onto the Canadian landscape to the more lucrative markets and offered more American programming but CBC stuck with their Canadian made quality programming.

Now because of the economic turmoil advertising revenues are down, our Conservative government is ready to shut down Canada’s entertainment industry just like the Diefenbaker’s Conservatives shut down the Avro Arrow the Canadian made fighter jet program just to appease the Americans.

During the past federal election Stephen Harper did say that the Canadian entertainment is not worth assisting because all they do is go to gala’s and get drunk which cost him the majority so I have to presume that this is his way to pay them back.

CBC should continue to produce Canadian made shows.

The Conservative appointed president of the CBC said that the American made TV programs will be a lead into Canadian made programs which no one really believes judging from the grim faces of the CBC reporters that was sprinkled through the crowd of employees listening to the message they didn’t believe it.

CBC is all about our engilsh and french Canadian culture and it is worthwhile to save it.

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so the Government of the day set up the network and provided top quality Canadian programming.

We're still waiting for it!!! And paying trough the teeth, so a media outlet can manipulate the news, unfairly bid on programming and breach common ethics by being funded and allowed to maintain advertising revenues.

Yep, the CBC is a bastion of awesomeness!



The Con's should fold the ***** and let something either takes its place naturally or not at all.
 
Cannuck
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Quote: Originally Posted by LiberalmanView Post

Canadian made quality programming.

That is exactly why I find friends of the CBC hilarious. To begin with, CBC doesn't make anything of quality. The only good shows on it are produced by private corporations such as Salter Street films. Secondly, with over 100 channels available now, there is lots of quality programs on the tube and we no longer need taxpayers dollars to get it.
 
MHz
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Nobody watched Canadian programing when it was being produced anyway. I hope they leave CBC north running as it has been because that did provide a community service to the inhabitants of the far, far-north.
 
pegger
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While I find myself agreeing with fewer and fewer Conservative policies - I do agree with ending the subsidies to the CBC. There should be a 5 year plan or something to reduce the funding - so that they can get into the "game" - cutting it overnight would not be right.

Besides CTV and global seem to have quite a few Canadian made shows on too now - so I don't see the arguement that we need them to "protect our culture" as valid any more...
 
EagleSmack
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This is one of those topics... Canadian Tv vs American Tv. We can't help it if we have better programs. If Canada really did have quality programs that Canadians actually watched there would not be an issue. It is all about the ratings and advertising money.
 
lone wolf
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Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmackView Post

This is one of those topics... Canadian Tv vs American Tv. We can't help it if we have better programs. If Canada really did have quality programs that Canadians actually watched there would not be an issue. It is all about the ratings and advertising money.

You have the better programs only by virtue of money....
 
EagleSmack
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Quote: Originally Posted by lone wolfView Post

You have the better programs only by virtue of money....

Money helps that is true. When we are talking about programs are we talking about sitcoms, TV Movies, and things of that nature?
 
Zzarchov
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To be fair , there are great Canadian Programs. But, most of our actors and writers go to Hollywood.

This isn't unusual, most big name Aussie, Kiwi, South Africa and Brit actors, writers and directors go there too. Thats the Hub and it happens to be part of the USA.

Hollywood culture is (proportionally) as much Canadian Culture as it is American Culture. Go look at American Culture (such as the Heartland) vs Hollywood culture and you'll see what I mean, they are not the same thing.
 
darkbeaver
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Most interviews on CBC radio are now of yankees.
 
EagleSmack
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I agree. It's a Hollywood thing. They have more writers and as Wolf said more money to pay good writers. So I imagine Canada has great writers and the place to make the good money is in Southern California. The same with the actors. If there is a good Canadian actor, he or she is going to get scooped up and sent to Hollywood for the big bucks. I guess that goes with the whole entertainment industry... music, comedy, etc.
 
lone wolf
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Hell, even some really good Canadian shows get picked up in the States - like Cold Files or Trailer Park Boys (c'mon admit it ... the beeps on American TV are kinda fun) or Sue Thomas F B eye.... Without the finances that keep them alive, they'd just be low budget Canadian TV. Canada moans about its lack of culture ... but is loathe to encourage that which it still retains.
 
EagleSmack
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Quote: Originally Posted by darkbeaverView Post

Most interviews on CBC radio are now of yankees.

Would you like some cheese to go with that INCESSANT whine?
 
EagleSmack
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Quote: Originally Posted by lone wolfView Post

Hell, even some really good Canadian shows get picked up in the States - like Cold Files or Trailer Park Boys (c'mon admit it ... the beeps on American TV are kinda fun) or Sue Thomas F B eye.... Without the finances that keep them alive, they'd just be low budget Canadian TV. Canada moans about its lack of culture ... but is loathe to encourage that which it still retains.

I LOVED the Tom Green Show. He had me in stitches.

"Tasty corn...tasty corn...tasty,tasty, tasty corn."
 
RanchHand
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Quote: Originally Posted by ZzarchovView Post

To be fair , there are great Canadian Programs. But, most of our actors and writers go to Hollywood.

This isn't unusual, most big name Aussie, Kiwi, South Africa and Brit actors, writers and directors go there too. Thats the Hub and it happens to be part of the USA.

Hollywood culture is (proportionally) as much Canadian Culture as it is American Culture. Go look at American Culture (such as the Heartland) vs Hollywood culture and you'll see what I mean, they are not the same thing.

Wrong. The Hub of the entertainment business doesn't ''happen to be part of the USA". Americans made it the hub.
Hollywood culture is not as much Canadian culture. It's American. Create your own culture and your own identity. To me it looks like your national past time is to get your giggles throwing shxx balls at the US.
 
Ron in Regina
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Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmackView Post

I agree. It's a Hollywood thing. They have more writers and as Wolf said more money to pay good writers. So I imagine Canada has great writers and the place to make the good money is in Southern California. The same with the actors. If there is a good Canadian actor, he or she is going to get scooped up and sent to Hollywood for the big bucks. I guess that goes with the whole entertainment industry... music, comedy, etc.


Yep.... --
 
lone wolf
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Quote: Originally Posted by RanchHandView Post

Wrong. The Hub of the entertainment business doesn't ''happen to be part of the USA". Americans made it the hub.
Hollywood culture is not as much Canadian culture. It's American. Create your own culture and your own identity. To me it looks like your national past time is to get your giggles throwing shxx balls at the US.

No ... California weather made it the hub. If your going to talk, at least let it be fact.
 
EagleSmack
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Quote: Originally Posted by lone wolfView Post

No ... California weather made it the hub. If your going to talk, at least let it be fact.

But come on Wolf... California is part of the US. Most of the Soap Operas are filmed in New York. Americans made Hollywood and that is a fact just as Indians made Bollywood in India.
 
MHz
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Wasn't the death of Canadian programing in the fact that their productions were intentionally filmed that left no doubt it was acting (older British programs were very similar). American programing was more to a realistic product where the obvious acting tidbits were eliminated, the public preferred that type of entertainment.
 
DichotoMe
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First i'd like to remark on the news bias stigma Cannuck has commented on. Do you really think there is a news source out there that is unbiased, seriously? Every network has a downside, it's subjective. I like the CBC but can't stand CTV's fluff news or Global's doomsday news, I find CBC to be a good middle ground. Also, the quality of most shows on these other networks aren't great either. No other network gives voice to the Canadian people like CBC. I think it may be the fact that Cannuck just doesn't like what the majority of people in Canada are thinking.

The quality of the majority of movies and TV shows is quite poor. Some may have a slightly better production value but the writing is usually garbage, especially when it comes to sitcoms. The only shows that are worth watching on TV, from a quality perspective, are the specialty channels such as HBO, Showcase, etc. CBC television is actually decent in comparison to the yankee crap, shows such as The Hour, Hockey Night in Canada, Marketplace and Doczone all exemplify canadian quality programming.

The difference here is that most CBC programming, aside from the few sitcoms and children's programming it runs, is targeted for a thoughtful intelligent audience. It's too bad that most Canadians' have been brainwashed by being force fed yankee tripe that they can't see the value in this aspect of their nationality. So, now we're stuck with American Idle, Survivor and other such over saturated neanderthal distraction! Is there no escape from the stink of mediocrity that is TV, it needs to be rebranded or it should die. I say we ditch the medium altogether, with the advent of online streaming video TV will become an antiquated media outlet anyway.

Lets get ahead of the game in Canada, turn off your idiot box and read a book (or eBook)!
 
EagleSmack
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Quote: Originally Posted by DichotoMeView Post

First i'd like to remark on the news bias stigma Cannuck has commented on. Do you really think there is a news source out there that is unbiased, seriously? Every network has a downside, it's subjective. I like the CBC but can't stand CTV's fluff news or Global's doomsday news, I find CBC to be a good middle ground. Also, the quality of most shows on these other networks aren't great either. No other network gives voice to the Canadian people like CBC. I think it may be the fact that Cannuck just doesn't like what the majority of people in Canada are thinking.
The quality of the majority of movies and TV shows is quite poor. Some may have a slightly better production value but the writing is usually garbage, especially when it comes to sitcoms. The only shows that are worth watching on TV, from a quality perspective, are the specialty channels such as HBO, Showcase, etc. CBC television is actually decent in comparison to the yankee crap, shows such as The Hour, Hockey Night in Canada, Marketplace and Doczone all exemplify canadian quality programming.
The difference here is that most CBC programming, aside from the few sitcoms and children's programming it runs, is targeted for a thoughtful intelligent audience. It's too bad that most Canadians' have been brainwashed by being force fed yankee tripe that they can't see the value in this aspect of their nationality. So, now we're stuck with American Idle, Survivor and other such over saturated...

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Poor Dichto...

Nobody's being force fed... Americans just have better programs and Canadians are watching them. Oh well.

LOL... Online streaming video is going to replace TV... yeah get ahead of that curve.
 
MHz
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Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmackView Post

LOL... Online streaming video is going to replace TV... yeah get ahead of that curve.

Maybe CBC can become an underground channel on the innernet.
 
RanchHand
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Yeah Dicho. America has nothing that can compare to Hockey Night in Canada.

"The difference here is that most CBC programming, aside from the few sitcoms and children's programming it runs, is targeted for a thoughtful intelligent audience"

It's comments like this that make this board a treasure trove. Here's a viewing tip.
Take your eyes off Paris Hilton for a while and watch the National Geographic Channel or Discovery or History Channel or PBS. Do any of these shows on PBS compare to the thinking man's favorite, Hockey Night in Canada?

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EagleSmack
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Quote: Originally Posted by RanchHandView Post

Yeah Dicho. America has nothing that can compare to Hockey Night in Canada.



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"The difference here is that most CBC programming, aside from the few sitcoms and children's programming it runs, is targeted for a thoughtful intelligent audience"

It's comments like this that make this board a treasure trove. Here's a viewing tip.
Take your eyes off Paris Hilton for a while and watch the National Geographic Channel or Discovery or History Channel or PBS. Do any of these shows on PBS compare to the thinking man's favorite, Hockey Night in Canada?

Don't forget to tell your friends!

But this is a great board all around. Don't take some of these guys too serious. There are some real good folks around this forum, that is why I love it so much. Even some of the ones you may disagree with are decent people.
 
darkbeaver
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Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmackView Post

Would you like some cheese to go with that INCESSANT whine?

Canadian cheddar only please.
 
RanchHand
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Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmackView Post





Don't forget to tell your friends!

But this is a great board all around. Don't take some of these guys too serious. There are some real good folks around this forum, that is why I love it so much. Even some of the ones you may disagree with are decent people.

Well, you've certainly been around longer than me but I don''t see it. To me, it's like I'm hunting on a game farm. I think Americans would get a fairer shake in Red China than here. It's quite an eye opener.
 
EagleSmack
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The early days of me being here... I was a gun slinger. The Mods were different and I was getting threatened quite a bit. I was maybe one of three ACTIVE Americans. I've even saved the PMs from some people. There was not much room for opposing views and anti-America talk was even worse if you can believe it or not.

I'm not telling you to stop posting... I could use the help at times! Safety in numbers.
 
Albertabound
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Americans just have better programs and Canadians are watching them.

Oh Great....... John and Kate plus eight........yah...Americans make some gooood television don't they !!!
 
EagleSmack
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Quote: Originally Posted by AlbertaboundView Post

Oh Great....... John and Kate plus eight........yah...Americans make some gooood television don't they !!!

Oh we make some doosies too!

But Canada keeps watching the good ones don't they or else this thread wouldn't be here now would it?
 

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