Jack Finally Got The Shaft

[Liberalman]

Jack Layton leader of the NDP got double crossed by the Liberal party.

Jack is so mad that he took out radio attack ads against the Liberals.

AlI can say to Jack is what goes around comes around.

Not so long ago when the Liberals were in power in a minority government Jack started to wheel and deal and threatened to bring down the government if he did not get his way.

The Liberals decided to stand with Jack and changed their budget to accommodate some of Jack’s ideas and they were saved from an election but Jack wanted more but the second time around the Liberals said no way and the NDP triggered an election and the Conservative party got the Minority.

Jack went to the Conservative and they told Jack to jack oops almost said it.

Stephen Harper got a bill passed on fixed elections and the then leader Dion thought it was OK because the Liberals controlled the committees and the Senate.

Dion made sure that their Liberal MPs were absent except for a few to vote against it so the Conservative would win.

Every time when this happened Jack would be jumping and yelling at the Liberals that they were yellow.

In the last economic statement in 2008 the government decided to attack the opposition MPs directly and the coalition was formed and the Prime Minister was told to change or face the music.

Earlier this week the Conservative government presented a Liberal budget and all is well.

As for Jack all I can say is to him is quit your bellyaching and stop with your bullcrap and quit acting like the Toronto city hall troll of your youth and act like an MP and a leader of a well respected political party roll up your sleeves like you promised and get down to business or you will end up like Dion and that would be a shame.

 

[justfred]

This is well written. Good Job. I guess the life of politics can be rough.

 

[Kreskin]

It is a good post. Poor Bellyachin' Jack.

 

[Spade]

Iggy glued Jack's thongs to the floor (of the Commons)

 

[Risus]

Jack always was useless. It sure looks good on him, seeing his straw grasping attempt at some sort of power slip away. Now all he has to do is slip away too!

 

[Praxius]

Jack Layton leader of the NDP got double crossed by the Liberal party.

Jack is so mad that he took out radio attack ads against the Liberals.

And the Conservatives never did this against the Liberals?

That's the way things go.

AlI can say to Jack is what goes around comes around.

Not so long ago when the Liberals were in power in a minority government Jack started to wheel and deal and threatened to bring down the government if he did not get his way.

The Liberals decided to stand with Jack and changed their budget to accommodate some of Jack’s ideas and they were saved from an election but Jack wanted more but the second time around the Liberals said no way and the NDP triggered an election and the Conservative party got the Minority.

Jack went to the Conservative and they told Jack to jack oops almost said it.

Stephen Harper got a bill passed on fixed elections and the then leader Dion thought it was OK because the Liberals controlled the committees and the Senate.

Dion made sure that their Liberal MPs were absent except for a few to vote against it so the Conservative would win.

Every time when this happened Jack would be jumping and yelling at the Liberals that they were yellow.

Which is true and they are.... when people vote your asses into the government, they expect you to do your job and represent them, not walk out for a 4 hour coffee break..... what the hell are they getting paid for?

I think a lot of people were jumping and yelling besides Layton over this crap.

Oh well the poor liberals couldn't afford to goto another election and wern't doing good in the polls?

Too freaking bad, that's democracy, now go do your jobs and suck it up.

Oh, but somehow this is the NDP/Layton's fault?

In the last economic statement in 2008 the government decided to attack the opposition MPs directly and the coalition was formed and the Prime Minister was told to change or face the music.

Earlier this week the Conservative government presented a Liberal budget and all is well.

No it's not.... this is yet another sign that everytime something needs to be done, we're all going to be thrown into these stupid games by the Liberals and Conservatives...... they will drag every damn problem out for as long as they can, make a big deal over it all and blab about how they're gonna defend Canadians..... then screw us all over in the end with a smile of their faces......

...... and yet the NDP/Layton are at fault?

Who the hell voted these other parties into power over and over again? You gonna blame that on them as well??

As for Jack all I can say is to him is quit your bellyaching and stop with your bullcrap and quit acting like the Toronto city hall troll of your youth and act like an MP and a leader of a well respected political party roll up your sleeves like you promised and get down to business or you will end up like Dion and that would be a shame.

He's been the only one actually pointing out all of these screw ups and corruption between the other two parties..... and you want blame him for the problems & tell him to suck it up as if this is the way our government should work?

My god how screwed up is this country's perception of our democracy anyways?

Like I've said in the past, I'm not the biggest fan of the NDP, but they and Layton seem to get a hell of a lot more crap thrown on them for far less then half the crap the other two parties dish out..... everything he and the party has done has been legal, honest and straight forward, or at least a hell of a lot more then the other two..... and yet people just laugh it all off and keep supporting the same two good/bad cop parties who continually stab everybody in the back while smiling to our faces.

Maybe it's this skewed perspective against the NDP and Layton that give me some level of sympathy for them..... When I look at all of the parties available in our government.... the Conservatives, the Liberals, the NDP, the Bloc, the Green...... the only two parties that actually showed they have some level of competence and able to speak straight, are the Bloc and NDP.......

..... and to me that's pretty damn sad to say..... but people keep voting in the worst of the crew..... why?

Routine??

 

[Praxius]

Oh and perhaps the reason why Layton opposed both the Liberals and Conservatives in each of the above cases, is perhaps because both parties suck and can't be trusted, in fact never could be.

I know I'd be against both parties.... in fact I am.

Back in the 80's the Conservatives under Brian screwed us over numerous times and pulled some of the same stunts as what we see today (Meech lake Accord / Airbus)...... people got fed up with it and voted in the Liberals..... then the Liberals had their own stint with Quebec and then we end up with the Sponsorship Scandal shortly after that.

People got fed up with the Liberals, seemed to have forgotten all about what the Conservatives did, voted them back into power.... and here we go again.....

The Conservatives make a mockery out of our government under Harper, he calls a pointless election for a power grab, then delays our democracy because he tried to play more games after the election and helps create the concept of a Coalition being required or yet another election.......

And now everybody is talking about either voting back in the Liberals under Iggy to continue the cycle, or to vote more for the Conservatives under Harper to continue their mess of a government....... completely forgetting what they have done in the past.

All the while the NDP and Layton, along with the Bloc keep pointing out all of the obvious to everyone, but people just laugh them off like they're completely blind and label them as power grabbers and complainers..... when it's been nothing but the Liberals and Conservatives who have been power grabbing ever since this country was formed and all we have been doing the whole while is complaining about them while laughing at the other options...... and then we vote them back in each time and wonder why more and more people are no longer bothering to vote???

..... how screwed up is that??

Oh but I forgot the Liberals and Conservatives propaganda..... the Bloc are evil seperatist who are hell bent on destroying our nation and the NDP are evil Nazi Socialist.... OOoOooooooo..... yes.... the NDP are the next Nazi Party and Layton is the next Hitler..... :roll: Cripes almighty!

I've completely lost any understanding on the rest of this country's mentality when it comes to politics..... you guys will keep allowing yourselves to get screwed over time and time again, yet when you have alternative options at your disposal who are saying pretty much what everybody is thinking, you thumb your noses at the idea as if it'd only make things worse and laugh them off..... then turn around to continue to be shafted by the same idiots who keep stabbing us all in the back.

Nope.... I don't get it at all.

Added:

See I only view the NDP as a tool..... if they could get further up in the government, perhaps not leaders, but main opposition, both the Liberals and Conservatives would start snapping sh*t and start to figure out that they no longer have a monopoly and have to do some work or lose their jobs...... that the people of Canada are fed up and if they don't start doing their jobs the right way, they will all be replaced.

I'd vote the NDP in for a year or two, just to scare the crap out of the other parties. Then when they get back into power, they may finally figure out that they're not the one's who are supposed to run the government, we are.

We as citizens just need to grow a pair and actually start seeking change.... it's not going to just fall in our laps.

 

[JLM]

Jack Layton leader of the NDP got double crossed by the Liberal party.

Jack is so mad that he took out radio attack ads against the Liberals.

AlI can say to Jack is what goes around comes around.

Not so long ago when the Liberals were in power in a minority government Jack started to wheel and deal and threatened to bring down the government if he did not get his way.

The Liberals decided to stand with Jack and changed their budget to accommodate some of Jack’s ideas and they were saved from an election but Jack wanted more but the second time around the Liberals said no way and the NDP triggered an election and the Conservative party got the Minority.

Jack went to the Conservative and they told Jack to jack oops almost said it.

Stephen Harper got a bill passed on fixed elections and the then leader Dion thought it was OK because the Liberals controlled the committees and the Senate.

Dion made sure that their Liberal MPs were absent except for a few to vote against it so the Conservative would win.

Every time when this happened Jack would be jumping and yelling at the Liberals that they were yellow.

In the last economic statement in 2008 the government decided to attack the opposition MPs directly and the coalition was formed and the Prime Minister was told to change or face the music.

Earlier this week the Conservative government presented a Liberal budget and all is well.

As for Jack all I can say is to him is quit your bellyaching and stop with your bullcrap and quit acting like the Toronto city hall troll of your youth and act like an MP and a leader of a well respected political party roll up your sleeves like you promised and get down to business or you will end up like Dion and that would be a shame.

I get so sick and tired of seeing his mug on the T.V. Not enough brains to build a mouse trap.

 

[Zzarchov]

Please tell me why a politician trying his damnedest to get the views of his constituents and the platform he ran for election on passed is somehow bad as a "power grab".

Thats his job, he is doing his job.

I also don't per say disagree with Harpers actions of acting like he had a majority (though I dislike him), he is doing his job to get the actions he ran on passed.

The Liberals are not doing their Job, they are just pussyfooting around because they don't want another election nor a coalition.


Well suck it up buttercup and do your job, you have one you know. Thats alot better than alot of people right now.

 

[pegger]

I also don't per say disagree with Harpers actions of acting like he had a majority (though I dislike him), he is doing his job to get the actions he ran on passed.

Funny - I thought he ran on no deficits - no how, no way....

 

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[JLM]

Please tell me why a politician trying his damnedest to get the views of his constituents and the platform he ran for election on passed is somehow bad as a "power grab".

Thats his job, he is doing his job.

I also don't per say disagree with Harpers actions of acting like he had a majority (though I dislike him), he is doing his job to get the actions he ran on passed.

The Liberals are not doing their Job, they are just pussyfooting around because they don't want another election nor a coalition.


Well suck it up buttercup and do your job, you have one you know. Thats alot better than alot of people right now.

A good politician has to amend his philosophy to suit current conditions, if he wants to survive.

 

[lone wolf]

A good politician has to amend his philosophy to suit current conditions, if he wants to survive.

When was the last time you ever saw a good politician?

 

[JLM]

When was the last time you ever saw a good politician?

Granted they are very few and far between but I guess we have to give them the benefit of the doubt. I guess I could have phrased it better and said a "long serving politician".

 

[justfred]

Does anybody think that a big part of the problem is that we have 5 parties trying to catch the golden ring? We do not need 4 parties on the left, splitting up the left vote and only 1 on the right. If we can analyze what is going on here, if the left and right voters are equal, guess what, each left parties get 12.5% of the first 50% and the right gets the second 50%. Duh.

 

[Praxius]

A good politician has to amend his philosophy to suit current conditions, if he wants to survive.

So a green light to break their promises because of "Current Conditions?"

In most cases, these politicians should have enough foresight to see what's coming to setup their platforms ahead of time.

That's what the Liberals were doing, that's what the NDP were doing, as well as the Bloc and Green.

But the Conservatives said everything was just fine and they would never run a deficit..... then all this crap happens in the government because the Cons didn't plan on anything, which caused the delay in our democracy and just a couple of weeks ago, Harper finally says there's a problem (No sh*t sherlock, welcome to the party) and then decides to run a deficit...... something he used against the other parties in the election, because they already knew what was needed to be done, while Harper didn't have a friggin clue.

Added:

That alone is warrent for a non-confidence if I ever saw one.... .not including his direct lies about our democracy in regards to the coalition, his attempts to put a part of our population against the rest of Canada, his continued political games he's played and will keep on playing.

 

[Ron in Regina]

The Liberals, NDP, Bloc, or the Green Party didn't have anymore foresight than anybody
else. They where all just trying to buy the Seat of Power with your (& my) tax dollars
before the election. At the time I voted for the party that promised away about 1/25th
of what the other Parties where promising to spend (with OUR tax dollars) in vote
purchasing promises. I don't think any of them truly had a friggin clue of the scope &
magnitude of this economic mess.

I'm still not sold on the shear volume of the Canadian budget as being really necessary
in the current proportions. The current budget is set up in such a way that (with so many
strings attached) that much of the $$$ supposedly flowing out of it, just will not flow out
of it. ALL THE PARTIES DO KNOW THIS, and yet the Budget gets a pass. The $85
Billion dollar predicted deficit is a huge (and ugly) number, and when it settles out at only
(I want to puke when I say "only") $50 Billion-ish...it'll be claimed that it's ONLY
that much due to Conservative foresight.

After the election, the whole power-play by the three (two with the third having veto
power so their loyalty was purchased with all of our tax dollars) non-winning Parties
was orchestrated by two (OK....one with the other having veto power so their loyalty
was purchased with all of our tax dollars) knowing the third party Leader was a very
malleable puppet. Ignatius isn't the puppet that Dion was.

People may be knocking Jack Layton here, but I really have to give him his due. Through
the month of November, whenever Dion spoke, I could barely see Jacks lips move at all!
I swear Jack could probably drink a glass of water and still have somewhat coherent words
come from what appeared to be Stephane Dions direction. That takes skill.

 

[Francis2004]

The Liberals, NDP, Bloc, or the Green Party didn't have anymore foresight than anybody
else. They where all just trying to buy the Seat of Power with your (& my) tax dollars
before the election. At the time I voted for the party that promised away about 1/25th
of what the other Parties where promising to spend (with OUR tax dollars) in vote
purchasing promises. I don't think any of them truly had a friggin clue of the scope &
magnitude of this economic mess.

I'm still not sold on the shear volume of the Canadian budget as being really necessary
in the current proportions. The current budget is set up in such a way that (with so many
strings attached) that much of the $$$ supposedly flowing out of it, just will not flow out
of it. ALL THE PARTIES DO KNOW THIS, and yet the Budget gets a pass. The $85
Billion dollar predicted deficit is a huge (and ugly) number, and when it settles out at only
(I want to puke when I say "only") $50 Billion-ish...it'll be claimed that it's ONLY
that much due to Conservative foresight.

Ron, your missing the point..

During the Election of Sept / Oct 2008 the Conservatives claimed no economic problems.. All the while saying the budget would be balanced and all would be fine.. This was not true back then as much as it is not true today.. Most parties were saying there were problems and that help was required.

I agree with you but if Harper had introduced a budget 1/2 the deficit it is today in Nov 2008 it would probably have done twice the good it will today at the new cost. The faster you catch something like this at the start the better. They either failed, lied or did not want to face the true facts.

Dion's strings may have seemed to be pulled but I doubt that was the case. Dion was certainly not a good TV image man but he was not an idiot most make him out to be. I also don't think Jack is stupid but I do believe he is an opportunistic type of guy and he got sucked in by both Dion, Ignatieff and the Liberal party.. He just failed in his atttempt and is now peeved because it has made him look bad ( hence the Attack Ads ).

 

[JLM]

Does anybody think that a big part of the problem is that we have 5 parties trying to catch the golden ring? We do not need 4 parties on the left, splitting up the left vote and only 1 on the right. If we can analyze what is going on here, if the left and right voters are equal, guess what, each left parties get 12.5% of the first 50% and the right gets the second 50%. Duh.

I guess it's not hard to tell which side of centre the intelligence is located.

 

[JLM]

"In most cases, these politicians should have enough foresight to see what's coming to setup their platforms ahead of time.

That's what the Liberals were doing, that's what the NDP were doing, as well as the Bloc and Green."- I'll bet, the big tycoons on Wall St. (who are a lot smarter than 99.44% of politicians) didn't see it coming until it was too late. Harper has more brains than the other 3 put together and right now they know it.