Liberal leadership race

Walter
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It's going to be fun to watch.

Bob Rae gearing up for Liberal leadership race

Updated Fri. Oct. 31 2008 6:30 PM ET
CTV.ca News Staff
Bob Rae said Friday he will be a candidate for the Liberal leadership and strongly rejected persistent rumours that he was backing away from a run at the party's top job.
"I have every intention of being a candidate, I have expressed that very directly to my leader, Mr. Dion," Rae told CTV's Mike Duffy Live on Friday afternoon.
Rae has reportedly sent a letter to Dion asking that he be relieved from his duties as foreign affairs critic, so he could concentrate on his leadership run.
Rae has also started to mobilize his campaign machinery, and he held a conference call Friday afternoon with about 60 organizers from across the country.
"Our campaign will be stronger, better organized than it was last time, and we're going to win. I'm looking forward to it very much," he said, referring to his unsuccessful bid for party leader in 2006.
Rae was forced to announce his intentions because of swirling rumours suggesting he was having second thoughts about entering the leadership fray.
"This is absolute nonsense," Rae said. "It is not worthy of the political process."
Some of Rae's strategists believe the rumours are being spread by supporters of potential leadership rivals Michael Ignatieff and John Manley, The Canadian Press reported.
 
scratch
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Quote: Originally Posted by WalterView Post

It's going to be fun to watch.

Bob Rae gearing up for Liberal leadership race

Updated Fri. Oct. 31 2008 6:30 PM ET
CTV.ca News Staff
Bob Rae said Friday he will be a candidate for the Liberal leadership and strongly rejected persistent rumours that he was backing away from a run at the party's top job.
"I have every intention of being a candidate, I have expressed that very directly to my leader, Mr. Dion," Rae told CTV's Mike Duffy Live on Friday afternoon.
Rae has reportedly sent a letter to Dion asking that he be relieved from his duties as foreign affairs critic, so he could concentrate on his leadership run.
Rae has also started to mobilize his campaign machinery, and he held a conference call Friday afternoon with about 60 organizers from across the country.
"Our campaign will be stronger, better organized than it was last time, and we're going to win. I'm looking forward to it very much," he said, referring to his unsuccessful bid for party leader in 2006.
Rae was forced to announce his intentions because of swirling rumours suggesting he was having second thoughts about entering the leadership fray.
"This is absolute nonsense," Rae said. "It is not worthy of the political process."
Some of Rae's strategists believe the rumours are being spread by supporters of potential leadership rivals Michael Ignatieff and John Manley, The Canadian Press reported.

Good Luck Bob,
You'll need it.
No-one has forgotten your political past.
 
Avro
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Quote: Originally Posted by scratchView Post

Good Luck Bob,
You'll need it.
No-one has forgotten your political past.

Yeah, like successfully steering Ontario out of recession.
 
scratch
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Quote: Originally Posted by AvroView Post

Yeah, like successfully steering Ontario out of recession.

It'll never happen with ole Bob!
 
Walter
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Cash-strapped Liberals fall behind NDP in fundraising

1 day ago
OTTAWA — The once-mighty Liberal party has raised less money from fewer donors so far this year than the NDP, traditionally the poor sister of Canadian politics.
According to quarterly financial returns posted by Elections Canada, fewer than 35,000 donors contributed a total of $3.6 million to the Liberal party from January to September this year.
Over the same period, the Conservatives vacuumed up almost $15 million from more than 125,000 individuals.
Even the NDP did better than the Liberals, raking in $3.7 million from almost 44,000 contributors.
The dismal financial news comes just as Liberals are digesting the results of the Oct. 14 election, in which the party fell to its lowest share of the popular vote - 26.2 per cent - since Confederation.
Party president Doug Ferguson said he expects the party will be left with a $2-3 million campaign debt after it receives rebates on campaign expenses from Elections Canada.
Moreover, since each party receives a public subsidy worth $1.95 per vote, the Liberals' reduced vote share will translate into an annual loss of $1.6 million for the party.
Ferguson acknowledged the Liberals' financial straits are worrying. But he noted that the party traditionally rakes in the bulk of its donations in the fourth quarter and predicted that by year end the Liberals will surpass the NDP in fundraising.
However, the party will have to compete for scarce dollars with a half dozen or more Liberal leadership contenders, who will soon be scouring the country for donations.
Candidates to succeed outgoing Leader Stephane Dion are expected to bolt quickly out of the gate after the Liberal national executive meets next weekend to set the timing, location and rules for the leadership convention. The convention is most likely to be held next May in Vancouver.
The Liberal party has been struggling to raise money since 2004, when political financing reforms severely limited personal and corporate contributions. Stephen Harper's Conservatives tightened those rules even further in 2007, banning corporate donations outright and capping annual personal contributions at $1,100.
Traditionally most reliant on big corporate donations, the Liberal party has had the most trouble adapting to the new regime. By contrast, the Tories have thrived, tapping into their Reform party roots to master the art of raising lots of small donations from thousands upon thousands of individuals.
"There's a recognition that we do have to change our fundraising culture," Ferguson said.
"I'm concerned, of course, but I sense a desire and a willingness of the party to make the changes we need to make and turn things around."
Ferguson said his goal is to eventually match the Conservatives "dollar for dollar."
Dion has also made fundraising his top priority during his remaining few months as leader. He blames the Liberals' election defeat on the fact that the party could not afford to counter costly Tory attack ads that denigrated him and his controversial carbon tax plan.
Ferguson hypothesized that the Tories and NDP have been able to tap into a sense of grievance and passion among their supporters to raise money. But Liberals, who tend to be moderate centrists, are generally less aggrieved or impassioned and it's consequently proved harder to motivate them to give money.
"At either end of the political spectrum, I think people are more motivated to give. I think it's because of emotion."
Still, Ferguson said the jaw-dropping fundraising success of Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama proves that average people will open their wallets if they're inspired.
"We have to give meaning and value to being a Liberal. We also have to give them inspiration."
 
Risus
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Quote: Originally Posted by scratchView Post

Good Luck Bob,
You'll need it.
No-one has forgotten your political past.

scratch, do we actually agree again???
 
Trex
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[quote=Walter;1003764]It's going to be fun to watch.

Bob Rae gearing up for Liberal leadership race


You got that right.
Should be more fun than a ferret down the trousers.

Harper's gotta be laying awake dreaming about a Bob Rae led opposition.
Dreaming of 10 or 12 Ontario seats getting shook loose.

I'm still putting my money on the Iglet.
Nothing like a naturalized American returning home to rescue us in our time of need.

Its just gotta be better than Canadian Idol.
Speaking of Canadian Idol I wonder if Harper has considered drafting Ben Muldoon to
balance out the great Justin threat?

Trex
 
Colpy
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[quote=Trex;1004411]
Quote: Originally Posted by WalterView Post

I I wonder if Harper has considered drafting Ben Muldoon to
balance out the great Justin threat?

Trex

OMG! Just shoot me! Please!

 
Avro
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Quote: Originally Posted by scratchView Post

It'll never happen with ole Bob!

Why? He already did it in Onatrio.
 
lone wolf
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Oh boy ... now we get to hear about Rae screwing up Harris' perfect little fifedom....
 
Avro
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Quote: Originally Posted by WalterView Post

Cash-strapped Liberals fall behind NDP in fundraising

Traditionally most reliant on big corporate donations, the Liberal party has had the most trouble adapting to the new regime.

The Libs are the ones who changed the rules....remember old boy.
 
Walter
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Quote: Originally Posted by AvroView Post

The Libs are the ones who changed the rules....remember old boy.

As I've posted before, the rule changes were Cretin's revenge.
 
scratch
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Quote: Originally Posted by WalterView Post

As I've posted before, the rule changes were Cretin's revenge.

I love your spelling of Chretien!
 
Avro
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Quote: Originally Posted by WalterView Post

As I've posted before, the rule changes were Cretin's revenge.

Prove it.
 
Walter
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Quote: Originally Posted by AvroView Post

Prove it.

Cretin is the one who first brought in the rule changes knowing full well that most of the Liberal funding came from corporations; but what did he care, since he was on the way out and skewering Martin was foremost in Cretin's puny brain.
 
Avro
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Quote: Originally Posted by WalterView Post

Cretin is the one who first brought in the rule changes knowing full well that most of the Liberal funding came from corporations; but what did he care, since he was on the way out and skewering Martin was foremost in Cretin's puny brain.

That's not proof, it's hearsay.

now prove it.
 
Socrates the Greek
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Quote: Originally Posted by scratchView Post

I love your spelling of Chretien!

Good day to you scratch, when ever Walter talks about the Liberals he misspells their names to show respect…….
I have noticed that when ever he talks about the Conservatives he never makes spelling errors….
Poor Waltar……………………..
 
Walter
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Quote: Originally Posted by Socrates the GreekView Post

Poor Waltar

That's Walturd to you.
 
Socrates the Greek
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Quote: Originally Posted by WalterView Post

That's Walturd to you.

Ye good day to you pal......
 
Socrates the Greek
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Bob Ray will not be the correct leader for the Liberal party of Canada..........
 
Risus
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Quote: Originally Posted by Socrates the GreekView Post

Bob Ray will not be the correct leader for the Liberal party of Canada..........

I can't believe it! We actually agree on something??
 
Socrates the Greek
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Quote: Originally Posted by RisusView Post

I can't believe it! We actually agree on something??


My pal we should have a Corona in celebration..
 
Trex
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So who gets the nod?

Justins out.

McKenna took a look at the books and bolted.

Manley is still looking at the books and the word on the street is that he ain't liking what he is seeing.

Kennedy.....who?

So its Bob and Iggy.

The rest is filler.

Iggy is an academic who has preferred to live and teach in the land of The Great Satan.
He is more American than most Americans.
Great to have him pop back and save us all.

Bob; well Bob has baggage.
Rumour has it that Bob cannot balance a chequebook.
Or perhaps now he can.
Also the word is that many who lean to the left view Bob as a bit of a quisling.
Anybody but Bob and all that.

I pick Iggy.
I think he can get the most cash scraped together.
And these days the Fed Libs have more hands out than the folks down at the Sally Ann.
Plus Igg has already been campaigning hard for months.

its Iggy.

Trex
 
DurkaDurka
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Pick a random person out of the phone book and they would make a better leader then Dion.

Hopefully they pick someone who resides a littls closer to the centre.
 
Socrates the Greek
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Quote: Originally Posted by DurkaDurkaView Post

Pick a random person out of the phone book and they would make a better leader then Dion.

Hopefully they pick someone who resides a littls closer to the centre.

To put Dion on the helm was a powerful move by the Liberals........it has a deep strategic emphasis.
 
Risus
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Quote: Originally Posted by Socrates the GreekView Post

My pal we should have a Corona in celebration..

No an Alexander Keiths IPA... gotta keep it in Canada....
 
Socrates the Greek
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Quote: Originally Posted by RisusView Post

No an Alexander Keiths IPA... gotta keep it in Canada....

Canadian beer works for me......................happy hour is a great time to look forward to.
 
Nuggler
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Quote: Originally Posted by WalterView Post

Cretin is the one who first brought in the rule changes knowing full well that most of the Liberal funding came from corporations; but what did he care, since he was on the way out and skewering Martin was foremost in Cretin's puny brain.

Holy crap, Walter, you and I agree on something. I gotta find another forum. Love your earings by the way.

 
Risus
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Quote: Originally Posted by Socrates the GreekView Post

Canadian beer works for me......................happy hour is a great time to look forward to.

That beer and your big fat Greek dinner will go down fine!!!
 
Socrates the Greek
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Quote: Originally Posted by RisusView Post

That beer and your big fat Greek dinner will go down fine!!!

Now we are talking friendship.................the way it should be..................
 

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