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Almost 900,000 Canadian children living in poverty, StatsCan finds


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May 1st, 2008, 12:53 PM

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On another (more elitist, jaded) note.... if you look at the issue of 'the poor' having children from the viewpoint of requiring a sustainable country, discouraging them from doing so would be highly detrimental. Investing in food and education for a new generation of children means a future tax base. As it stands, our population is shrinking, and without a new generation of tax payers, our futures would look pretty grim.
The wealthy don't generally have enough children to support a healthy population. One thing with being rich is you need to be selfish or, in the very least, it helps a great deal, and sharing ones prosperity isn't something the wealthy like too much IMO or they wouldn't be wealthy.

I know in Germany one city had to destroy 45,000 homes because the population has dropped so much there isn't anyone to occupy them. This is happening all over Germany according to the CBC. It is easy to see this will be happening here too.

Someone needs to have children. I personally have no problem with my tax money being used for that purpose; and yes, I have no problem with my money going to single mothers raising their illegitimate children (i.e., welfare).
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May 1st, 2008, 12:58 PM

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The wealthy don't generally have enough children to support a healthy population. One thing with being rich is you need to be selfish or, in the very least, it helps a great deal, and sharing ones prosperity isn't something the wealthy like too much IMO or they wouldn't be wealthy.

I know in Germany one city had to destroy 45,000 homes because the population has dropped so much there isn't anyone to occupy them. This is happening all over Germany according to the CBC. It is easy to see this will be happening here too.

Someone needs to have children. I personally have no problem with my tax money being used for that purpose; and yes, I have no problem with my money going to single mothers raising their illegitimate children (i.e., welfare).
There was another article recently as well about Japan having to try to switch more and more of their factories over to automated systems because their population is dwindling as well. It's why I kind of laugh when people rant about population control being the solution to pollution... because the biggest polluters are mostly all shrinking. Canada's birth rate is below the 2.3 needed for replacement, and has been for a while. Russia has declared days when people should go home from work to fornicate in order to try to boost their numbers. We need immigration and we need birth. Otherwise we'll be dead in the water.

And, btw, the link isn't 'wealth', the link tends to be education. The higher the degree of education women receive, the fewer children they have. It's not just the 'elites' or the 'rich' having fewer kids.
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May 1st, 2008, 01:05 PM

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And, btw, the link isn't 'wealth', the link tends to be education. The higher the degree of education women receive, the fewer children they have. It's not just the 'elites' or the 'rich' having fewer kids.
Sure, I was just thinking in terms of the Roman empire and its demise. They became so well off that they stopped having children. Within a couple of generations they were overwhelmed by "barbarians."

There is a very strong correlation between prosperity and declining birth rates. I suspect there is also a correlation between education and increased wealth.

As you said earlier, there is a big difference between our poor and what is meant by poor in other parts of the world; by that standard, even our poor are very wealthy.
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