Mighty Intellect
Posts: 1,515 
Location: Changchun, China
Location: Changchun, China
April 27th, 2008, 02:57 AM
Oh, and I forgot:
When I was 12 and selling chocolates for a school ski trip in Victoria, one man who was about to buy one asked which school it was. When he'd learnt it was a French-medium school, he'd just said "I hate French people" and walked on.
I was absolutely shocked! I was 12, he was an adult.
Should I go on with more examples?
Oh, and I forgot:
When I was 12 and selling chocolates for a school ski trip in Victoria, one man who was about to buy one asked which school it was. When he'd learnt it was a French-medium school, he'd just said "I hate French people" and walked on.
I was absolutely shocked! I was 12, he was an adult.
Should I go on with more examples?
Knows No Bounds
Posts: 2,693 
April 27th, 2008, 10:04 AM
Don't multiply it across the whole country. Thats just non sensical, that just shows what happened to one family.
Case in point.
My one friend lives in Surrey BC. He is white. He is not allowed to eat in certain restraunts (being forcibley removed) , shop in certain stores or walk home from work (where he gets told off as a "Dirty Gora")
His crime is being a minority, aka a "Dirty Gora".
Should we therefore infer that not only are whites Minorities country wide, but that they are racially abused in such a manner country wide?
Don't multiply it across the whole country. Thats just non sensical, that just shows what happened to one family.
Case in point.
My one friend lives in Surrey BC. He is white. He is not allowed to eat in certain restraunts (being forcibley removed) , shop in certain stores or walk home from work (where he gets told off as a "Dirty Gora")
His crime is being a minority, aka a "Dirty Gora".
Should we therefore infer that not only are whites Minorities country wide, but that they are racially abused in such a manner country wide?
April 27th, 2008, 01:13 PM
Quoting Machjo
I'm sorry, but, most of the bigotry you discuss doesn't sound like native issues. The assertion was that the majority of albertans are prejudiced against natives. Now, if you assert that the majority of Canadians have some sort of prejudice, you'd be completely correct. BC'ers tend to dislike Albertans. Albertans tend to dislike the Quebecois. All of the races (and I mean all... I've seen as much race hate from minorities as I have from caucasians) tend to have an undercurrent of distrust in other races. Add them all together, and you definitely come out with the majority (I'd say the VAST majority even), who possess a prejudice of some form or another.
I hate to say it, but the vast majority of my compatriots are biggots, even among the educated classes. And it's reflected at the ballot box too.
Clever Clogs
Posts: 716
Location: Ardrossan, Alberta
Location: Ardrossan, Alberta
April 27th, 2008, 04:01 PM
My nephew lives with his wife on a reservation south of Calgary- He picked up the black irish gene in our family and has black hair and a dark complexion, everybody there thinks he's native. He told me that the natives have their fair share of whitey jokes as whites have their share of native jokes. If your thin skinned enough you'll perceive everything as racisist even if it's poking fun. for example I'm German and Irish
Q: what do you get when you cross a German and an Irishman.
A: A pisstank who wants to rule the world.
Some people will get all pissed off about it, but why? it's not true it's an absurdity, that's what makes it funny(subjectively)
My nephew lives with his wife on a reservation south of Calgary- He picked up the black irish gene in our family and has black hair and a dark complexion, everybody there thinks he's native. He told me that the natives have their fair share of whitey jokes as whites have their share of native jokes. If your thin skinned enough you'll perceive everything as racisist even if it's poking fun. for example I'm German and Irish
Q: what do you get when you cross a German and an Irishman.
A: A pisstank who wants to rule the world.
Some people will get all pissed off about it, but why? it's not true it's an absurdity, that's what makes it funny(subjectively)
Mighty Intellect
Posts: 1,658
Location: Alberta, Canada
Location: Alberta, Canada
April 27th, 2008, 06:34 PM
EXACTLEY
Quoting karrie
I'm sorry, but, most of the bigotry you discuss doesn't sound like native issues. The assertion was that the majority of albertans are prejudiced against natives. Now, if you assert that the majority of Canadians have some sort of prejudice, you'd be completely correct. BC'ers tend to dislike Albertans. Albertans tend to dislike the Quebecois. All of the races (and I mean all... I've seen as much race hate from minorities as I have from caucasians) tend to have an undercurrent of distrust in other races. Add them all together, and you definitely come out with the majority (I'd say the VAST majority even), who possess a prejudice of some form or another.
EXACTLEY
Genius
Posts: 986
Location: BC
Location: BC
April 28th, 2008, 03:50 AM
And to answer your post: I don't assume because someone says one thing it means they hold the opposite to be true (that is specifically what I was posting about). I hope people are smarter than that but I suspect they probably, on whole, aren't. It seems people have to have an either or belief system with no room for gray. It's sad IMO.
BTW, I participated in your "extrapolate my view" thread and enjoyed it. It also made your point very well I think.
Quoting karrie
Actually I was commenting to Albertabound. It seemed from his(?) comment that he thought I meant natives weren't prejudice or couldn't be.
You do the same Scott. I simply say that the assertion that 'the majority' are racist is wrong, and you seem to think that means I think racism doesn't exist. People make grand leaps all the time. I started a whole thread dedicated to my irritation over the issue entitled 'extrapolate my view'. Give a few little tidbits (ie, I'm Catholic, white, have been with the same man since I was 14, live in oil country) and watch how people can run with those little tidbits to extrapolate a view based on stereotyping. Because it seems that few people are willing to view the world of personal opinion in grey scale.
And to answer your post: I don't assume because someone says one thing it means they hold the opposite to be true (that is specifically what I was posting about). I hope people are smarter than that but I suspect they probably, on whole, aren't. It seems people have to have an either or belief system with no room for gray. It's sad IMO.
BTW, I participated in your "extrapolate my view" thread and enjoyed it. It also made your point very well I think.
Genius
Posts: 894
May 3rd, 2008, 06:57 PM
Quoting gerryh
Know what pisses me off even more?....... Stupidity masquerading as intelligence.
Clever Clogs
Posts: 519
May 4th, 2008, 02:54 AM
You're another one of these bigots that loves to blame the victim.
Quoting Albertabound
I've been listening to some of the stories about residential survivors (and that's exactly what they are) on CBC and find it hard to believe anyone in this country can be so cold-hearted on this subject. Young native kids were subjected to what amounts to torture and many sucumbed to the harsh treatment they suffered while under government sanctioned care. Many others lost their innocence and any chance of living a healthy life long ago. And while financial compensation may not be the best solution, it's totally ignorant to blame them for a tragedy that has its roots in mainstream Canadian society.
Now they are finding deaths are occuring to former residential school students that have received payouts. They are now asking for the government to step in with programs for those who have recieved the payouts......What the F....
First of all good for you....anyone that thought money would be the answer to their false problems as a result of the residential schooling is living in a magical world. Money does not and can not heal these issues. Now that people that received this funding are parishing because of over drinking, the native community want the govl. to pay for a cure to the problem. How about you take it out of the money that was given to you and pay for your own education on the subject.
The fact that none of these people are putting their new fund monies into anything other than boozing burns me right up. Are they puting this money towards schooling to better them selvs....no. Are they puting towards health issues...no. Are you puting towards your home...no. You wanted the evil thing known as money as a cure .....well now you have. Deal with it, and quit asking the government to bail you out all the time. Especially for something you demanded.
First of all good for you....anyone that thought money would be the answer to their false problems as a result of the residential schooling is living in a magical world. Money does not and can not heal these issues. Now that people that received this funding are parishing because of over drinking, the native community want the govl. to pay for a cure to the problem. How about you take it out of the money that was given to you and pay for your own education on the subject.
The fact that none of these people are putting their new fund monies into anything other than boozing burns me right up. Are they puting this money towards schooling to better them selvs....no. Are they puting towards health issues...no. Are you puting towards your home...no. You wanted the evil thing known as money as a cure .....well now you have. Deal with it, and quit asking the government to bail you out all the time. Especially for something you demanded.
You're another one of these bigots that loves to blame the victim.
Mighty Intellect
Posts: 1,547
May 4th, 2008, 06:29 AM
Quoting Cobalt_Kid
Bloody WASP's.
You're another one of these bigots that loves to blame the victim.
Genius
Posts: 821
Location: Red Deer AB
Location: Red Deer AB
May 4th, 2008, 08:58 AM
As for having to use compensation money for 'rehab', that isn't the way it works. Rehab is a separate cost, ask any court that covers injury claims.
The issue of racial tension between 'Whites' and 'Natives' is different from the same racial tension between any two different cultures in what way? Almost any city has boundaries that if a person crosses it they are in danger of physical harm.
My Mother once told me that during WWII people worked together in harmony, the reason, they all shared a 'common threat', once that threat was gone things went back to the same old same old.
Quoting Scott Free
You do know they would actually eat you if you ever approached one (the others being close by but hidden from sight) right?
you even cried during Dances With Wolves, right?
As for having to use compensation money for 'rehab', that isn't the way it works. Rehab is a separate cost, ask any court that covers injury claims.
The issue of racial tension between 'Whites' and 'Natives' is different from the same racial tension between any two different cultures in what way? Almost any city has boundaries that if a person crosses it they are in danger of physical harm.
My Mother once told me that during WWII people worked together in harmony, the reason, they all shared a 'common threat', once that threat was gone things went back to the same old same old.
Clever Clogs
Posts: 519
May 4th, 2008, 12:36 PM
so do idiots
Quoting Walter
Didn't say a thing about whites anglo-saxons or protestants, bigots come in all forms. Bloody WASP's.
so do idiots
Genius
Posts: 894
May 4th, 2008, 04:13 PM
Walter you take the price for bigotry in this forum! What is a WASP, Bloody Genuines; probably bloody poofters? Why is it so hard for you Walt to refrain from your bigotry.
Quoting Walter
Bloody WASP's.
Walter you take the price for bigotry in this forum! What is a WASP, Bloody Genuines; probably bloody poofters? Why is it so hard for you Walt to refrain from your bigotry.
Mighty Intellect
Posts: 1,547
May 5th, 2008, 06:06 AM
Quoting Cobalt_Kid
Bloody idiots.
Didn't say a thing about whites anglo-saxons or protestants, bigots come in all forms.
so do idiots
so do idiots
Mighty Intellect
Posts: 1,547
May 5th, 2008, 06:06 AM
Quoting Socrates the Greek
Bloody bigots.
Walter you take the price for bigotry in this forum! What is a WASP, Bloody Genuines; probably bloody poofters? Why is it so hard for you Walt to refrain from your bigotry.
