Mighty Intellect
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March 21st, 2008, 07:36 PM
For Canadian, serving in Iraq is a source of pride
Posted outside Baghdad as part of exchange with U.S., soldier says he's optimistic about future of war-torn country
He doesn't mind the odd looks. He says he's both proud of his country and of being one of the few Canadians taking part in what the U.S. Army calls Operation Iraqi Freedom.
Canada refused to join in when the United States, Britain and a collection of allies invaded Iraq in 2003. That Col. Mills and four other Canadian officers are serving in Baghdad under an exchange between the U.S. and Canadian militaries is little known, and little publicized by either government.
Col. Mills also cautioned that there is much more to be done in Iraq, and that the recent gains could evaporate if the Iraqi government doesn't move quickly to restore basic services such as clean water and electricity that haven't functioned well since 2003.
"We need to take this opportunity to restore services and get the economy going. If we can't, it's an evil spiral: People will just continue to get mad because they haven't seen changes," he said. "I think you can say some things have been accomplished. Can we declare victory again? No. ... The plan is we stay here for as long as we have to."
I recommend to read the full article: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servl...rnational/home
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Ottawa did a good job sneaking that arrangement by us!!! What wonders me, why are we now allowed to read about it so joyfully?? Sure, I'm happy for Mr. Mills... he is obviously in no distress or conflict of mind to be there. But why the secrecy of our government??? Are there more secrets not yet revealed??
For Canadian, serving in Iraq is a source of pride
Posted outside Baghdad as part of exchange with U.S., soldier says he's optimistic about future of war-torn country
He doesn't mind the odd looks. He says he's both proud of his country and of being one of the few Canadians taking part in what the U.S. Army calls Operation Iraqi Freedom.
Canada refused to join in when the United States, Britain and a collection of allies invaded Iraq in 2003. That Col. Mills and four other Canadian officers are serving in Baghdad under an exchange between the U.S. and Canadian militaries is little known, and little publicized by either government.
Col. Mills also cautioned that there is much more to be done in Iraq, and that the recent gains could evaporate if the Iraqi government doesn't move quickly to restore basic services such as clean water and electricity that haven't functioned well since 2003.
"We need to take this opportunity to restore services and get the economy going. If we can't, it's an evil spiral: People will just continue to get mad because they haven't seen changes," he said. "I think you can say some things have been accomplished. Can we declare victory again? No. ... The plan is we stay here for as long as we have to."
I recommend to read the full article: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servl...rnational/home
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Ottawa did a good job sneaking that arrangement by us!!! What wonders me, why are we now allowed to read about it so joyfully?? Sure, I'm happy for Mr. Mills... he is obviously in no distress or conflict of mind to be there. But why the secrecy of our government??? Are there more secrets not yet revealed??
March 21st, 2008, 08:05 PM
I don't know how many times I gotta say this to you...read a bloody history book, read something other then the absurdity you read now...
Exchange programs have been going on for years!!!
As Wolf said, they ain't no secret.
Hell there's been Canadian Drop shorts in Iraq since the first days. Canadian Drop masters on board resupply Herc's. MP's and Intell Officers.
There isn't a conspiracy under every rock Loonie!!!
Quoting dancing-loon
Ottawa did a good job sneaking that arrangement by us!!! What wonders me, why are we now allowed to read about it so joyfully?? Sure, I'm happy for Mr. Mills... he is obviously in no distress or conflict of mind to be there. But why the secrecy of our government??? Are there more secrets not yet revealed??
I don't know how many times I gotta say this to you...read a bloody history book, read something other then the absurdity you read now...
Exchange programs have been going on for years!!!
As Wolf said, they ain't no secret.
Hell there's been Canadian Drop shorts in Iraq since the first days. Canadian Drop masters on board resupply Herc's. MP's and Intell Officers.
There isn't a conspiracy under every rock Loonie!!!
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March 21st, 2008, 08:58 PM
Wasn't the JTF2 involved with extracting that nutter christian from Baghdad?
Wasn't the JTF2 involved with extracting that nutter christian from Baghdad?
March 21st, 2008, 09:04 PM
Quoting DurkaDurka
Uh huh!!!
Wasn't the JTF2 involved with extracting that nutter christian from Baghdad?
Ponderous Intellect
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March 21st, 2008, 11:36 PM
[quote=dancing-loon;937196]For Canadian, serving in Iraq is a source of pride
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I have no quarrel with how he sees the war. However, it clearly does not square with the Iraqi majority:
'We live in a nightmare. Death and carnage is everywhere' Ali, Baghdad resident
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/mar/20/iraq1
``I ask myself why life in Iraq is so cheap. We are living in a nightmare. It is like there is a camera recording us and by its light we see images of death and carnage everywhere. The Iraqi have good hearts, but we are living in a state of hysteria.``
[quote=dancing-loon;937196]For Canadian, serving in Iraq is a source of pride
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I have no quarrel with how he sees the war. However, it clearly does not square with the Iraqi majority:
'We live in a nightmare. Death and carnage is everywhere' Ali, Baghdad resident
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/mar/20/iraq1
``I ask myself why life in Iraq is so cheap. We are living in a nightmare. It is like there is a camera recording us and by its light we see images of death and carnage everywhere. The Iraqi have good hearts, but we are living in a state of hysteria.``
Mighty Intellect
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March 22nd, 2008, 12:22 AM
That Col. Mills and four other Canadian officers are serving in Baghdad under an exchange between the U.S. and Canadian militaries is little known, and little publicized by either government.
The Department of National Defence website makes no mention of Col. Mills and the other officers being deployed to Iraq.
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That's why I didn't know about it!! Never heard of it!!! I'm not a military person, don't have kids in the military either!
That Col. Mills and four other Canadian officers are serving in Baghdad under an exchange between the U.S. and Canadian militaries is little known, and little publicized by either government.
The Department of National Defence website makes no mention of Col. Mills and the other officers being deployed to Iraq.
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That's why I didn't know about it!! Never heard of it!!! I'm not a military person, don't have kids in the military either!
March 22nd, 2008, 08:04 AM
And does the big font make your lack of knowledge on the subject any less funny?
I think not.
Quoting dancing-loon
And you don't need to either...
That Col. Mills and four other Canadian officers are serving in Baghdad under an exchange between the U.S. and Canadian militaries is little known, and little publicized by either government.
The Department of National Defence website makes no mention of Col. Mills and the other officers being deployed to Iraq.
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That's why I didn't know about it!! Never heard of it!!! I'm not a military person, don't have kids in the military either!
The Department of National Defence website makes no mention of Col. Mills and the other officers being deployed to Iraq.
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That's why I didn't know about it!! Never heard of it!!! I'm not a military person, don't have kids in the military either!
And does the big font make your lack of knowledge on the subject any less funny?
I think not.
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March 22nd, 2008, 08:42 AM
Dancing_Loon
Unlike Bear, the average person's knowledge of how the military works isn't common knowledge. And whether the exchange programme is "normal" or not is entirely beside the point. As a nation we declined an invitation to participate in the murder and mayhem taking place in Iraq under the banner of American greed and war-profiteering, it is indicative of the trust and truth one can reasonably expect of the current Canadian government to live up to the tenets of peace.
"Oh it's OK officer I'm not a gang member but I was in the neighborhood and I saw that the front window of this store was smashed so I (quite innocently) took a few things to give to the poor children in my housing development..."
"Faclitate and promote spin...." "Camouflage the truth under the artifice of pretense that this behavior is "normal"..." "Oh no officer I'd never pretend one thing then do something else..."
Dancing_Loon
It's easy to fool the children.
Dancing_Loon
Unlike Bear, the average person's knowledge of how the military works isn't common knowledge. And whether the exchange programme is "normal" or not is entirely beside the point. As a nation we declined an invitation to participate in the murder and mayhem taking place in Iraq under the banner of American greed and war-profiteering, it is indicative of the trust and truth one can reasonably expect of the current Canadian government to live up to the tenets of peace.
"Oh it's OK officer I'm not a gang member but I was in the neighborhood and I saw that the front window of this store was smashed so I (quite innocently) took a few things to give to the poor children in my housing development..."
"Faclitate and promote spin...." "Camouflage the truth under the artifice of pretense that this behavior is "normal"..." "Oh no officer I'd never pretend one thing then do something else..."
Dancing_Loon
It's easy to fool the children.
March 22nd, 2008, 08:48 AM
This isn't rocket science Mikey, it's simple partnerships. That whether you like or not, have been and will continue to be a large part of our alliances.
Quoting MikeyDB
That's kind of funny since the majority of Canadian Forces that have partaken in Iraq, did so under the Liberal Gov't.
Dancing_Loon
Unlike Bear, the average person's knowledge of how the military works isn't common knowledge. And whether the exchange programme is "normal" or not is entirely beside the point. As a nation we declined an invitation to participate in the murder and mayhem taking place in Iraq under the banner of American greed and war-profiteering, it is indicative of the trust and truth one can reasonably expect of the current Canadian government to live up to the tenets of peace.
Unlike Bear, the average person's knowledge of how the military works isn't common knowledge. And whether the exchange programme is "normal" or not is entirely beside the point. As a nation we declined an invitation to participate in the murder and mayhem taking place in Iraq under the banner of American greed and war-profiteering, it is indicative of the trust and truth one can reasonably expect of the current Canadian government to live up to the tenets of peace.
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Hence why the children have no idea about what takes place openly right under there noses.
Dancing_Loon
It's easy to fool the children.
It's easy to fool the children.
This isn't rocket science Mikey, it's simple partnerships. That whether you like or not, have been and will continue to be a large part of our alliances.
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March 22nd, 2008, 09:26 AM
Let me help you out with that Bear....
"It's all perfectly OK Lil'Bear, our good friends believed that those nasty bad Iraqi people had weapons that could destroy our way of life.... So before they (those bad nasty Iraqi people) could hurt us, we strafed and bombed their largest city. Yes women and children were killed by the thousand and yes we continue to strafe and bomb their nation because we don't know how to do anything else...."
"As it turns out Lil'Bear, there weren't any stockpiles of weapons and there weren't even any Islamic terrorists (Al Queada) in that nation, but becuase our good friends were convinced that they were dangerous we continue to destroy these folk who never harmed us in any way..."
"When the nasty white folk bash in our front door and claim the Mohawk Warriors are stockpiling weapons, it will be the same thing Lil'Bear and if we do what we think is right in Iraq and everywhere else our good friends tell us we should...well I guess it's perfectly OK to slaughter people...because our neighbors think that's the thing to do...."
Hope you find this useful.
Let me help you out with that Bear....
"It's all perfectly OK Lil'Bear, our good friends believed that those nasty bad Iraqi people had weapons that could destroy our way of life.... So before they (those bad nasty Iraqi people) could hurt us, we strafed and bombed their largest city. Yes women and children were killed by the thousand and yes we continue to strafe and bomb their nation because we don't know how to do anything else...."
"As it turns out Lil'Bear, there weren't any stockpiles of weapons and there weren't even any Islamic terrorists (Al Queada) in that nation, but becuase our good friends were convinced that they were dangerous we continue to destroy these folk who never harmed us in any way..."
"When the nasty white folk bash in our front door and claim the Mohawk Warriors are stockpiling weapons, it will be the same thing Lil'Bear and if we do what we think is right in Iraq and everywhere else our good friends tell us we should...well I guess it's perfectly OK to slaughter people...because our neighbors think that's the thing to do...."
Hope you find this useful.
Mighty Intellect
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March 22nd, 2008, 10:00 AM
Of course I was very happy and proud of us Canadians, when Chretien managed to avoid sending our soldiers to Iraq. That's why I was alarmed to read about us having soldiers in Iraq.
Quoting MikeyDB
Hi, Mikey, thanks for coming to my rescue. I appreciate when someone talks a little milder to me.
Dancing_Loon
Unlike Bear, the average person's knowledge of how the military works isn't common knowledge. And whether the exchange program is "normal" or not is entirely beside the point. As a nation we declined an invitation to participate in the murder and mayhem taking place in Iraq under the banner of American greed and war-profiteering, it is indicative of the trust and truth one can reasonably expect of the current Canadian government to live up to the tenets of peace.
"Oh it's OK officer I'm not a gang member but I was in the neighborhood and I saw that the front window of this store was smashed so I (quite innocently) took a few things to give to the poor children in my housing development..."
"Facilitate and promote spin...." "Camouflage the truth under the artifice of pretense that this behavior is "normal"..." "Oh no officer I'd never pretend one thing then do something else..."
Dancing_Loon
It's easy to fool the children.
Unlike Bear, the average person's knowledge of how the military works isn't common knowledge. And whether the exchange program is "normal" or not is entirely beside the point. As a nation we declined an invitation to participate in the murder and mayhem taking place in Iraq under the banner of American greed and war-profiteering, it is indicative of the trust and truth one can reasonably expect of the current Canadian government to live up to the tenets of peace.
"Oh it's OK officer I'm not a gang member but I was in the neighborhood and I saw that the front window of this store was smashed so I (quite innocently) took a few things to give to the poor children in my housing development..."
"Facilitate and promote spin...." "Camouflage the truth under the artifice of pretense that this behavior is "normal"..." "Oh no officer I'd never pretend one thing then do something else..."
Dancing_Loon
It's easy to fool the children.
Of course I was very happy and proud of us Canadians, when Chretien managed to avoid sending our soldiers to Iraq. That's why I was alarmed to read about us having soldiers in Iraq.
