#1Oct 19th, 2007
Try this in Ontario.
The Parti Québécois has tabled a bill in the legislature that would prevent immigrants who can't speak sufficient French from running in elections.
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/montreal/st...19/pq-ban.html
PQ would bar immigrants with fractured French from seeking election
Try this in Ontario.
The Parti Québécois has tabled a bill in the legislature that would prevent immigrants who can't speak sufficient French from running in elections.
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/montreal/st...19/pq-ban.html
#2
Re: PQ would bar immigrants with fractured French from seeking election
Oct 19th, 2007Cela devrait être adoptée par le Canada, qui est avant tout la citoyenneté canadienne est décerné à toute personne qu'il ou elle doit parler couramment l'anglais ou le français.
Le Canada devrait avoir un cours de langue financés par le gouvernement pour les personnes qui veulent devenir des citoyens aussi.
Maintenant, pour le Québec d'adopter une loi qui stipule que la langue française ne devrait pas être autorisé puisque le Canada est un pays bilingue.
Une fois que notre nouvel immigrant apprend la langue de la terre qu'ils connaissent leurs droits et soient mieux protégés contre les injustices qui sont le reste des Canadiens.
Free Thinker
#3
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Oct 19th, 2007
You're in violation of the Official Languages Act. Correct that with an English translation?
If that be the case, PQ should be forced to resign en masse. Not one of them speak true Gaullic and every one of them can trace ancestral roots to another continent. Idiots! Typical Quebec "is okay for me but not for nobody else eh"
Wolf
If that be the case, PQ should be forced to resign en masse. Not one of them speak true Gaullic and every one of them can trace ancestral roots to another continent. Idiots! Typical Quebec "is okay for me but not for nobody else eh"
Wolf
#4
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Oct 19th, 2007
The lighter side of the French language police...
Free Thinker
#5
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Oct 19th, 2007Quote: Originally Posted by Locutus
Ha ha ha ha ha!The lighter side of the French language police...
Only in Lego (is all for me, eh) land....
Wolf
#6
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Oct 19th, 2007
Lone wolf
Since the Official Languages Act is English and French
Translate it yourself
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You're in violation of the Official Languages Act. Correct that with an English translation?
Since the Official Languages Act is English and French
Translate it yourself
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Free Thinker
#7
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Oct 19th, 2007
A Trudeau Liberal at that!
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translate this)
What is French anyhow? In no two places where "French" is spoken is the language in common use the same thing. Parisian French isn't really heard anywhere outside lawyer's offices and high school classrooms. The majority of Québequois can't even pass a French exam.
Wolf
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translate this)What is French anyhow? In no two places where "French" is spoken is the language in common use the same thing. Parisian French isn't really heard anywhere outside lawyer's offices and high school classrooms. The majority of Québequois can't even pass a French exam.
Wolf
#8
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Oct 19th, 2007
Go figure.
Makes me wonder how I would be affected by their new policy, if it were to ever by some fluke be adopted into law. I'm a Quebecker by birth and have a very limited knowledge of French. My wife is (was) an immigrant and has zero knowledge of French.
I guess we'd better start taking French lessons
...
Makes me wonder how I would be affected by their new policy, if it were to ever by some fluke be adopted into law. I'm a Quebecker by birth and have a very limited knowledge of French. My wife is (was) an immigrant and has zero knowledge of French.
I guess we'd better start taking French lessons
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Oct 19th, 2007Quote:
This law would have no effect. It applies to immigrants, of which you are not.Makes me wonder how I would be affected by their new policy, if it were to ever by some fluke be adopted into law. I'm a Quebecker by birth...
#10
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Oct 19th, 2007
I'm curious as to what exactley are the objections to this piece of legislation.
and I agree wih Liberalman...in this instance.
and I agree wih Liberalman...in this instance.
Free Thinker
#11
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Oct 19th, 2007
No objection here ... it's just sort of ironic that the language they speak in Quebec isn't even true French.
Wolf
Wolf
#12
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Oct 19th, 2007Quote: Originally Posted by gerryh
Then perhaps the entire country should adopt this practice. I for one agree with it.I'm curious as to what exactley are the objections to this piece of legislation.
and I agree wih Liberalman...in this instance.
But no, the sensitive people would tear-up and whine and moan about us treading on the right's of others. Tough.
If I wanted to emigrate to say, Japan, it might be my responsibilty to learn the friggin' language. No?
#13
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Oct 19th, 2007Quote: Originally Posted by Locutus
Not if you go there to teach English .
If I wanted to emigrate to say, Japan, it might be my responsibilty to learn the friggin' language. No?
It's the popular choice after university in my generation, go to Asia to teach English, pay off student loan debt, and see the world while you`re at it
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Oct 19th, 2007Quote: Originally Posted by lone wolf
No objection here ... it's just sort of ironic that the language they speak in Quebec isn't even true French.
Wolf
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Oct 20th, 2007Quote: Originally Posted by lone wolf
Sorry but that's a rather stupid comment. It's like saying Canadians don't speak true English... or that Brazilians don't speak true Portuguese... No objection here ... it's just sort of ironic that the language they speak in Quebec isn't even true French.
Wolf
Think about it for a second.
#16
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Oct 20th, 2007
I have to say I really wonder what the PQ is trying to accomplish... It seems to me that someone who doesn't speak a word of French would have a very hard time functioning in the world of Quebec politics anyway... Why would they even try to be election candidates...?
My guess is that nobody with its right mind would even think about being an election candidate in Quebec if they didn't know a minimum of French... Except maybe in the West of Montreal (school elections... municipal elections)
On the federal level, can you imagine someone who neither manages French or English as an election candidate? It just wouldn't work out...
But then, we did have Jean Chrétien as prime minister... What a strange country this is...
My guess is that nobody with its right mind would even think about being an election candidate in Quebec if they didn't know a minimum of French... Except maybe in the West of Montreal (school elections... municipal elections)
On the federal level, can you imagine someone who neither manages French or English as an election candidate? It just wouldn't work out...
But then, we did have Jean Chrétien as prime minister... What a strange country this is...
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Oct 20th, 2007Quote: Originally Posted by JoeSchmoe
true, however my wife is.This law would have no effect. It applies to immigrants, of which you are not.
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Oct 20th, 2007Quote: Originally Posted by Locutus
There are city councillors in towns within Montreal and many English school board officials who don't have a good knowledge of French (or no knowledge). I mean why do you need to know French to run for election within an English school board?The Parti Québécois has tabled a bill in the legislature that would prevent immigrants who can't speak sufficient French from running in elections.
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/montreal/st...19/pq-ban.html
This law if it ever passes will put immgrants who are part of the English community in a bad spot.
Free Thinker
#19
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Oct 20th, 2007Quote: Originally Posted by s_lone
I think about it every time I try to speak with a Franco Canadian in my high school French and get laughed at because I don't know the local slangs ... and that's a lot more than a second.Sorry but that's a rather stupid comment. It's like saying Canadians don't speak true English... or that Brazilians don't speak true Portuguese...
Think about it for a second.
Wolf
#20
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Oct 20th, 2007
A political party which propose legislation in this way .... His people saw very little
#21
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Oct 20th, 2007Quote: Originally Posted by Tonington
Don't you need to know at least a little of the other language in order to teach them English? unless you're teaching advanced English to people who have a basic knowledge of the language.........Not if you go there to teach English
It's the popular choice after university in my generation, go to Asia to teach English, pay off student loan debt, and see the world while you`re at it
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Oct 20th, 2007Quote: Originally Posted by lone wolf
So? Slang exists everywhere in all languages... That doesn't mean Quebecers don't speak French or that their French is any less pure than French from France. There's slang in France too.I think about it every time I try to speak with a Franco Canadian in my high school French and get laughed at because I don't know the local slangs ... and that's a lot more than a second.
Wolf
Free Thinker
#23
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Oct 20th, 2007Quote: Originally Posted by s_lone
So how does that justify belittling someone who is making an attempt and at least trying to speak in that unfamiliar language - with someone who probably knows English perfectly well but.... Well there's that satisfaction in being a butthole.So? Slang exists everywhere in all languages... That doesn't mean Quebecers don't speak French or that their French is any less pure than French from France. There's slang in France too.
The point isn't the slang - the point is if you're going to test someone's French, you had better be able to account for those of your own who can't pass the exam.
Wolf
Last edited by lone wolf; Oct 21st, 2007 at 06:37 PM..Reason: typo repair
#24
Re: PQ would bar immigrants with fractured French from seeking election
Oct 21st, 2007
"Aw Jeez, Eeedit"
Whut's du woild comin to Eedit?
O'Conner in de machine shop sais I kan't run fer de town council ehhhh, unless me French gets better, eh!!!
Jeez Eeedit!, it ain't fair eh
"Well Awwwcheee, you ain't never runnin fer council awww ya!! So what's it mattahhh?"
Jeez Eeeedit!! dat ain't de point. If I wuz, I koodn't. Dat ain't faiur..........ehhhhhhhhhhh??!! Wheaas Meathead wen ya needs im ehhhhhh?? Jeez, he probably nos French. I'm goin down ta Kelsy's ehhhh............mebee someun der I ken pratise on eh................bone-joor eh.......oh-resevior.......tabernakal eh............Le Krayon est sir le tablow-nyer.........Jeez!!!"
Lets move ta BeeCee ok Eeeedit?? Maybeee we cud larn Chyneese ehhh, er sumptin.......Jeez...
"Shewerrr Awcheee, anyting ya say.............anyting ya say..........Awcheee"
(cue theme song, fade to black)
Whut's du woild comin to Eedit?
O'Conner in de machine shop sais I kan't run fer de town council ehhhh, unless me French gets better, eh!!!
Jeez Eeedit!, it ain't fair eh
"Well Awwwcheee, you ain't never runnin fer council awww ya!! So what's it mattahhh?"
Jeez Eeeedit!! dat ain't de point. If I wuz, I koodn't. Dat ain't faiur..........ehhhhhhhhhhh??!! Wheaas Meathead wen ya needs im ehhhhhh?? Jeez, he probably nos French. I'm goin down ta Kelsy's ehhhh............mebee someun der I ken pratise on eh................bone-joor eh.......oh-resevior.......tabernakal eh............Le Krayon est sir le tablow-nyer.........Jeez!!!"
Lets move ta BeeCee ok Eeeedit?? Maybeee we cud larn Chyneese ehhh, er sumptin.......Jeez...
"Shewerrr Awcheee, anyting ya say.............anyting ya say..........Awcheee"
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