Steven Hawking's Tutor
Posts: 4,612 
October 13th, 2007, 09:58 AM
What kills me is all these stupid games....
"If you're a "Liberal" you're thus and so....
If you're a "Conservative you're thus and so....
If you're a Protestant you're thus and so...
If you're a Catholic you're thus and so...
If you're a Moslem you're thus and so....
Games to make people believe they're actually in a game.....
Surprise!
You all lose.
What kills me is all these stupid games....
"If you're a "Liberal" you're thus and so....
If you're a "Conservative you're thus and so....
If you're a Protestant you're thus and so...
If you're a Catholic you're thus and so...
If you're a Moslem you're thus and so....
Games to make people believe they're actually in a game.....
Surprise!
You all lose.
War Minister
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Location: The Moonsine Cafe
October 13th, 2007, 10:39 AM
There are plenty of people who care and as well there is a social safety net
in place to assist those who have fallen on hard times regain their footing.
Hardly perfect but then what is?
This structure of capitalism works, though imperfectly. I suggest that is due to it being unbridled and those of only one class, the ruling class, to make the rules and set the standards. While they do make some effort, perhaps more to avoid the prospect of a general strike, it is something to build upon.
Without it we would be lost.
Quoting MikeyDB
So you're telling me that you don't care and you're angry that no one cares?
Tell it to someone who cares....
Nobody cares about anything except themselves....
The best predictor of future behavior is past behavior....
Check out human history.....
Nobody cares about anything except themselves....
The best predictor of future behavior is past behavior....
Check out human history.....
There are plenty of people who care and as well there is a social safety net
in place to assist those who have fallen on hard times regain their footing.
Hardly perfect but then what is?
This structure of capitalism works, though imperfectly. I suggest that is due to it being unbridled and those of only one class, the ruling class, to make the rules and set the standards. While they do make some effort, perhaps more to avoid the prospect of a general strike, it is something to build upon.
Without it we would be lost.
Steven Hawking's Tutor
Posts: 4,612
October 13th, 2007, 10:51 AM
No I'm not "angry" that no one cares, no one ever has cared about anyone but themselves. Sure there've been celebrations of massive death and destruction in the name of nationalism and patriotism and religious belief and ideological nonsense, but it all boils down to a willingness on the part of humanity to regard their existence as seperate and distant from the existence of every other person. Humanity draws lines and forms belief structures and political paradigms not because they're willing to regard all living things as a part of this existence but to regard their particular slice of this temporal reality as more important and more worthy of bending to their individual will and interests than they are being a part of something.
We have enormous threads here at CC arguing about global warming...we have injustices and inequities supported by good folk buying their goods without concern or consideration of where they come from or who suffers for that bargain....
Extinction is OK with me, perhaps if a species of humankind evolves after the train has stopped it might go a different direction....
Lemmings running to the sea is how humanity has behaved and it will have the same conclusion.
No I'm not "angry" that no one cares, no one ever has cared about anyone but themselves. Sure there've been celebrations of massive death and destruction in the name of nationalism and patriotism and religious belief and ideological nonsense, but it all boils down to a willingness on the part of humanity to regard their existence as seperate and distant from the existence of every other person. Humanity draws lines and forms belief structures and political paradigms not because they're willing to regard all living things as a part of this existence but to regard their particular slice of this temporal reality as more important and more worthy of bending to their individual will and interests than they are being a part of something.
We have enormous threads here at CC arguing about global warming...we have injustices and inequities supported by good folk buying their goods without concern or consideration of where they come from or who suffers for that bargain....
Extinction is OK with me, perhaps if a species of humankind evolves after the train has stopped it might go a different direction....
Lemmings running to the sea is how humanity has behaved and it will have the same conclusion.
Mighty Intellect
Posts: 1,535
Location: Calgary, Alberta
Location: Calgary, Alberta
October 13th, 2007, 11:01 AM
Voting is a tiny tiny part of the democratic process. How many people here belong to a political party? Donate to a political party/cause? Volunteer for the candidate of their choice?
How about belonging to your local community association or an advocacy group for some issue you believe in?
Asking your city "alderperson" if you can sit on some committee?
Voting is but one very small step in the democratic process.
Also, I'd agree to mandatory voting if "None Of The Above" also appeared on the ballot, and if that option won, non of the candidates would be allowed to run for two electoral cycles.
Pangloss
Voting is a tiny tiny part of the democratic process. How many people here belong to a political party? Donate to a political party/cause? Volunteer for the candidate of their choice?
How about belonging to your local community association or an advocacy group for some issue you believe in?
Asking your city "alderperson" if you can sit on some committee?
Voting is but one very small step in the democratic process.
Also, I'd agree to mandatory voting if "None Of The Above" also appeared on the ballot, and if that option won, non of the candidates would be allowed to run for two electoral cycles.
Pangloss
Mighty Intellect
Posts: 1,535
Location: Calgary, Alberta
Location: Calgary, Alberta
October 13th, 2007, 12:17 PM
Ah, of course - the representative sample. However - what if everybody did vote? There'd possibly be more serious coverage of political issues in the press, maybe we'd have better candidates. . .
Or maybe not. Maybe we'd just turn them into celebrities.
Sigh.
Pangloss
Ah, of course - the representative sample. However - what if everybody did vote? There'd possibly be more serious coverage of political issues in the press, maybe we'd have better candidates. . .
Or maybe not. Maybe we'd just turn them into celebrities.
Sigh.
Pangloss
