Time Out
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October 12th, 2007, 09:20 AM
yep, and those who lose a loved one to a drunk driver who had a few too many in celebration of a lousy day off during a blizzard or ice storm in the coldest heart of winter will have no one but Dalton to thank for it.
I can't wait 'til the Liberals have a MADD campaign launched against them when the next writ gets dropped.
yep, and those who lose a loved one to a drunk driver who had a few too many in celebration of a lousy day off during a blizzard or ice storm in the coldest heart of winter will have no one but Dalton to thank for it.
I can't wait 'til the Liberals have a MADD campaign launched against them when the next writ gets dropped.
sick and twisted
Posts: 2,537 
Location: Backwater, Ontario.
Location: Backwater, Ontario.
October 12th, 2007, 04:51 PM
Quoting lone wolf
You got'er Wolf. Do you remember Robert Stanfield dropping a football?? His name could have been Jesus, he was crucified after that!
A lot of very clever manipupation of Tory's faux pas won McGuinty a reprive. It's a great gimmick. Keep the electorate focussed on the other guy's slip on the dance floor. That way, they don't recall yours during the months of practice before.
Hampton should have lost his cool just a few more times.
Wolf
Hampton should have lost his cool just a few more times.
Wolf
Grossly Underrated
Posts: 6,278
Location: In the bush somewhere near Sudbury
Location: In the bush somewhere near Sudbury
October 12th, 2007, 05:36 PM
Wolf
Quoting 55Mercury
What has a new stat holiday to do with a drunk behind the wheel? Any day that ends in 'Y' is a cause for a drink to a drunk....
yep, and those who lose a loved one to a drunk driver who had a few too many in celebration of a lousy day off during a blizzard or ice storm in the coldest heart of winter will have no one but Dalton to thank for it.
I can't wait 'til the Liberals have a MADD campaign launched against them when the next writ gets dropped.
I can't wait 'til the Liberals have a MADD campaign launched against them when the next writ gets dropped.
Wolf
Time Out
Posts: 188
October 12th, 2007, 06:11 PM
About the only way I figure they wouldn't blame McGuilty is if they actually voted for him, because then, they'd only have themselves to blame.
I, personally, know it wouldn't be McGuilty's fault, just like I know that Walkerton wasn't more Harris' fault than then Finance Minister Paul Martin's fault for cutting back transfer payments to the provinces which necessitated the province's cutbacks to municipalities in the first place, which everyone tries to hang Harris for on that whole issue. It was neither of their faults, actually, but the sole responsibility of the brothers Koebel who would have screwed up their jobs regardless of who held office in Queen's Park.
Sure, it's a lot of nonsense, but so many are blinded by their unreason.
Quoting lone wolf
Of course that is a reasonable argument, El Dubya, but try convincing someone who loses their loved one to a drunk driver come next Family Day. (anyone wanna bet there won't be one?) Do you think they'll buy your statement that there's really no correlation?
What has a new stat holiday to do with a drunk behind the wheel? Any day that ends in 'Y' is a cause for a drink to a drunk....
Wolf
Wolf
About the only way I figure they wouldn't blame McGuilty is if they actually voted for him, because then, they'd only have themselves to blame.
I, personally, know it wouldn't be McGuilty's fault, just like I know that Walkerton wasn't more Harris' fault than then Finance Minister Paul Martin's fault for cutting back transfer payments to the provinces which necessitated the province's cutbacks to municipalities in the first place, which everyone tries to hang Harris for on that whole issue. It was neither of their faults, actually, but the sole responsibility of the brothers Koebel who would have screwed up their jobs regardless of who held office in Queen's Park.
Sure, it's a lot of nonsense, but so many are blinded by their unreason.
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Posts: 6,278
Location: In the bush somewhere near Sudbury
Location: In the bush somewhere near Sudbury
October 12th, 2007, 06:18 PM
Wolf
Quoting 55Mercury
Probably will be ... and a lot more Christmas. Nobody's talking about banning that - and I did lose family members to a Christmas-party drunk driver.
Of course that is a reasonable argument, El Dubya, but try convincing someone who loses their loved one to a drunk driver come next Family Day. (anyone wanna bet there won't be one?) Do you think they'll buy your statement that there's really no correlation?
About the only way I figure they wouldn't blame McGuilty is if they actually voted for him, because then, they'd only have themselves to blame.
I, personally, know it wouldn't be McGuilty's fault, just like I know that Walkerton isn't more Harris' fault than then Finance Minister Paul Martin's fault for cutting back transfer payments to the provinces which necessitated the province's cutbacks to municipalities in the first place, which everyone tries to hang Harris for on that whole issue.
Sure, it's a lot of nonsense, but so many are blinded by their unreason.
About the only way I figure they wouldn't blame McGuilty is if they actually voted for him, because then, they'd only have themselves to blame.
I, personally, know it wouldn't be McGuilty's fault, just like I know that Walkerton isn't more Harris' fault than then Finance Minister Paul Martin's fault for cutting back transfer payments to the provinces which necessitated the province's cutbacks to municipalities in the first place, which everyone tries to hang Harris for on that whole issue.
Sure, it's a lot of nonsense, but so many are blinded by their unreason.
Wolf
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Posts: 6,278
Location: In the bush somewhere near Sudbury
Location: In the bush somewhere near Sudbury
October 13th, 2007, 01:14 PM
Point is, a drunk behind the wheel doesn't need a whole day to accomplish what he/she can do in an hour or so. This new Family Day will be welcome to some, won't really make a difference to others and amounts to income lost for a few.
Wolf
Quoting 55Mercury
Was a very long time ago (in-laws) Thanks all the same.
I am sorry to hear of your loss, lone wolf.
Point is, a drunk behind the wheel doesn't need a whole day to accomplish what he/she can do in an hour or so. This new Family Day will be welcome to some, won't really make a difference to others and amounts to income lost for a few.
Wolf
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Posts: 2,003
Location: Oshawa
Location: Oshawa
October 13th, 2007, 01:20 PM
Quoting snowles
Hampton is just fine, the problem with the NDP is they are to honest in their platform and people never vote for the truth.
I don't think it seemed to matter. For being the alternative party and the alternate choice to the BSing of the mainstream choices, the NDP gained less than 2 percentage points from 2003. Considering the bluster about them holding the balance of power in a minority government only a week and a half ago, that's pretty weak.
I'd be surprised to see Howie leading the party by 2008. Now is a perfect time to inject the party with a youthful leader.
I'd be surprised to see Howie leading the party by 2008. Now is a perfect time to inject the party with a youthful leader.
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Location: Oshawa
Location: Oshawa
October 13th, 2007, 01:23 PM
Harper is in majority territory now and the only reason the lying Libs won in Ontario is because Tory has no political sense at all.
Quoting Liberalman
Typical arogant Liberal. The people of Ontario have spoken and they said we would take the lying Liberals because at least they try to get it right.
John Tory ran a good campaign and he should have won but he had two strikes against him.
Mike (the knife) Harris and our Conservative Prime Minister Harper.
These two individuals the icons of Conservative values have scared the crap out of the voters of Ontario.
This should be a wake up call to the federal Conservatives that they still didn’t get the trust of the voters of Ontario.
If a federal election were called today then Harper’s government would lose.
Harper will have to re-write the throne speech so that the trigger for an election would not happen.
John Tory ran a good campaign and he should have won but he had two strikes against him.
Mike (the knife) Harris and our Conservative Prime Minister Harper.
These two individuals the icons of Conservative values have scared the crap out of the voters of Ontario.
This should be a wake up call to the federal Conservatives that they still didn’t get the trust of the voters of Ontario.
If a federal election were called today then Harper’s government would lose.
Harper will have to re-write the throne speech so that the trigger for an election would not happen.
Harper is in majority territory now and the only reason the lying Libs won in Ontario is because Tory has no political sense at all.
