Council Member
Posts: 1,811 
September 27th, 2007, 08:07 PM
September 27, 2007
NDP warns government of election
By Alexander Panetta
NDP Leader Jack Layton gestures as he holds a news conference to announce the new NDP shadow cabinet in Ottawa, Thursday. THE CANADIAN PRESS/Fred Chartrand
OTTAWA - Pumping almost all of the $14-billion surplus into debt-reduction rather than investing in Canadians is the kind of rigid conservatism that makes it likely the NDP will vote to topple the government next month, Jack Layton said Thursday.
Yeah, right.
September 27, 2007
NDP warns government of election
By Alexander Panetta
NDP Leader Jack Layton gestures as he holds a news conference to announce the new NDP shadow cabinet in Ottawa, Thursday. THE CANADIAN PRESS/Fred Chartrand
OTTAWA - Pumping almost all of the $14-billion surplus into debt-reduction rather than investing in Canadians is the kind of rigid conservatism that makes it likely the NDP will vote to topple the government next month, Jack Layton said Thursday.
Yeah, right.
September 27th, 2007, 08:15 PM
Honestly though, I don't know enough of the details to guess if the NDP proposed debt is too much debt.
Quoting Kreskin
From a purely economical standpoint, governement debt is good for the country.
Jack is fighting mad. He insists on debt, lots of it, and he'll topple governments in his quest for more.
Honestly though, I don't know enough of the details to guess if the NDP proposed debt is too much debt.
September 27th, 2007, 08:20 PM
Quoting triedit
And if even less debt is better.
From a purely economical standpoint, governement debt is good for the country.
Honestly though, I don't know enough of the details to guess if the NDP proposed debt is too much debt.
Honestly though, I don't know enough of the details to guess if the NDP proposed debt is too much debt.
Senate Member
Posts: 5,586
Location: Saint John, N.B.
Location: Saint John, N.B.
September 27th, 2007, 09:06 PM
I said this when the Canadian Pond Scum Party was in charge under Jean-the-Don Chretin......the more the debt gets paid down, the better. Do it while you can......
The Cons are at least doing a few things right.......
I said this when the Canadian Pond Scum Party was in charge under Jean-the-Don Chretin......the more the debt gets paid down, the better. Do it while you can......
The Cons are at least doing a few things right.......
Mighty Intellect
Posts: 1,506
Location: Kamloops BC
Location: Kamloops BC
September 28th, 2007, 12:50 AM
Coincidence?
Maybe....
Quoting Walter
September 27, 2007
NDP Leader Jack Layton gestures as he holds a news conference to announce the new NDP shadow cabinet in Ottawa, Thursday. THE CANADIAN PRESS/Fred Chartrand
NDP Leader Jack Layton gestures as he holds a news conference to announce the new NDP shadow cabinet in Ottawa, Thursday. THE CANADIAN PRESS/Fred Chartrand
Coincidence?
Maybe....
A modern nomad
Posts: 1,118
Location: Berlin, Germany
Location: Berlin, Germany
September 28th, 2007, 03:49 AM
The other parties are furious because the conservatives by having the biggest piece of the pie get all sorts of dirty tricks they can use to subvert what people would ordinarily consider democracy. Our country is currently more oligarchical in nature than ever and that makes each party angry for different reasons.
The only real power that the opposition has to oppose these dirty tricks is to show non-confidence and so dissolve parliament. The unfortunate part is that our election system is shoddy and always a transient institution. If we had more frequent referendums and if provincial and federal elections used the same permanent infrastructure, an election would not be near as costly.
The other parties are furious because the conservatives by having the biggest piece of the pie get all sorts of dirty tricks they can use to subvert what people would ordinarily consider democracy. Our country is currently more oligarchical in nature than ever and that makes each party angry for different reasons.
The only real power that the opposition has to oppose these dirty tricks is to show non-confidence and so dissolve parliament. The unfortunate part is that our election system is shoddy and always a transient institution. If we had more frequent referendums and if provincial and federal elections used the same permanent infrastructure, an election would not be near as costly.
Clever Clogs
Posts: 526
Location: Pointy Rocks
Location: Pointy Rocks
September 28th, 2007, 09:52 AM
Quoting Niflmir
If the opposition chooses to vote with the conservatives to support budgets or other legislation then they are giving their support to the government and keeping it going. Keeping the current government or choosing a time for elections under a minority parliment is a rather lot of power considering the options under a majority parliment. What power is available to the opposition then? Opposition parites that would have a little power can from time to time under a majority Be the balance of power and get some real concessions from the government, concessions that no majority parliment would ever entertain. Jean Chretein's string of majorities was far mor oligarichal than the present that may at be ended any time.
The other parties are furious because the conservatives by having the biggest piece of the pie get all sorts of dirty tricks they can use to subvert what people would ordinarily consider democracy. Our country is currently more oligarchical in nature than ever and that makes each party angry for different reasons.
The only real power that the opposition has to oppose these dirty tricks is to show non-confidence and so dissolve parliament. The unfortunate part is that our election system is shoddy and always a transient institution. If we had more frequent referendums and if provincial and federal elections used the same permanent infrastructure, an election would not be near as costly.
The only real power that the opposition has to oppose these dirty tricks is to show non-confidence and so dissolve parliament. The unfortunate part is that our election system is shoddy and always a transient institution. If we had more frequent referendums and if provincial and federal elections used the same permanent infrastructure, an election would not be near as costly.
