Canadian Water Exports to USA/Mexico

Curiosity

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Canada claims the U.S.A. sees Canadian water exports as part of North America - not Canadian .... well aren't we off to a great start in negotiating yet another future trade deal...ppphhtttt ...the future looks bleak...very bleak...that the three nations will ever relax and benfit each other in natural resource trade and partnership.... or is this just another Vancouver Sun piece of bias? Check out the United Nations prediction - already determining Canada and the U.S. will be experiencing yet more enmity over this.... way to go U.N. you really do 'work for peace' eh?.

http://www.canada.com/vancouversun/news/story.html?id=6f776aa8-30e6-47ea-9bac-e0d83c4b856e

The Vancouver Sun
Canadian water exports part of Canada, U.S., Mexico talks


Kelly Patterson, CanWest News Service

Published: Friday, April 13, 2007
OTTAWA -- Canadian water is on the table at trilateral talks between politicians, businessmen and academics from Canada, the U.S. and Mexico, CanWest News Service has learned.
A series of closed-door conferences for the North American Future 2025 Project will include the discussion of "water transfers" and diversions, according to the outline for the project, a trilateral effort to draft a "blueprint" on economic integration for the governments of Canada, the U.S. and Mexico.
The project was launched by the three governments in March 2006 to help guide the ongoing Security and Prosperity Partnership, a wide-ranging effort to further integrate the countries' practices on everything from environmental rules to security protocols and border controls.
A draft report will be submitted to the three heads of state at a partnership summit in Alberta this August.
"It's no secret that the U.S. is going to need water. It's no secret that Canada is going to have an overabundance of water.
"At the end of the day, there may have to be arrangements,"said Armand Peschard-Sverdrup, director of the project, which is spearheaded by the the Center for Strategic and International Studies, a powerful Washington think-tank, in partnership with the Conference Board of Canada and CIDE, a Mexican policy institute.
No one will force Canada to sell its water, he said Thursday, stressing the project is "an analytical exercise ... it doesn't commit the governments to anything.
"Canada will have to make its own decisions. We recognize that," he said, recalling water was "the most sensitive topic in conversations" with the Privy Council Office when the the project was launched under the former Liberal government.
"But they all felt at the end of day that it's an issue that had to be looked at."
Water and other environmental issues will be the topic of April 27 talks in Calgary to which some environmental research groups, such as the Pembina Institute, have been invited, he adds.
News of the talks emerged the same day as the UN's blue-chip panel on climate change released a report predicting the U.S. would clash with water-rich Canada as the drought-stricken Midwest looks north to the Great Lakes.
Gordon Hodgson of the Ottawa-based Conference Board said Thursday that, even though it includes the board's logo, the project outline does not necessarily reflect his institute's views.
"The reality the Americans perhaps don't fully appreciate is that we don't have a whole lot of water to export. ... There are near-scarcity conditions in western Canada, and a lot of water is being used to extract bitumen from the oilsands," Hodgson said.
He said the outline is just a "catalyst for discussions."
But Maude Barlow of the Council of Canadians, which obtained the outline, said Thursday it "shows the American government and its think-tanks ... see Canada's water as a North American resource, not Canada's."
Barlow said there has to be a national debate on Canada's water policy, noting there is at present no law banning the bulk export of water, even as Canadian supplies dwindle.
Canada only has 20 per cent of the world's water "if you drained every lake and river," she notes.
The outline notes that "fresh water is running out in many regions of the world," by contrast, it notes, Canada possesses about 20 per cent of the Earth's fresh water.
 

EagleSmack

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Well that settles it. The US is going to have to take it by force.
(This ought to get them going <rubbing hands> :lol: )
 

tracy

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I don't think it would hurt if people stopped wasting so much. I see no reason why a desert area should have green lawns then complain that they don't have enough water.
 

Sparrow

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Doesn't this sound like the North American Union? Will our gov. stand up for this country's water supply? If Harper is still there I bet he caves in to all the demands and sc...w the people of Canada.
 

darkbeaver

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The capitalists economists want the water to move to the markets and so it shall. What use is there in resistance? They will bring democracy and freedom if we don't cooperate. Thank god we just gave them the oil and avoided bad feelings. We have to make sure they get the gas and the rest of the trees too. We should have a look arround to see if we have any fish left for them as well. If we stuff them faster maybe they'll bloat-up and phuck-off to rapture or resurection or where ever the hell righteous bloated Yankee capitalist pig-dogs go.
 

tamarin

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Canada had better develop some backbone on this issue. The country's water is not for sale. The US needs to review its own water resource policies to enact provisions that will benefit it in the future. Any Canadian politician that caves on this one deserves the public lynching he'll receive.
 

darkbeaver

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Canada had better develop some backbone on this issue. The country's water is not for sale. The US needs to review its own water resource policies to enact provisions that will benefit it in the future. Any Canadian politician that caves on this one deserves the public lynching he'll receive.


The nuclear spine is the only backbone Uncle Sam respects Tamarin. It's strange that you think the water's not for sale when it's bottled and sold everyday in Canada and used by industry either completely free or subsidised by public infrastructure or both. What we're considering today is getting the cubic meters, excuse me,cubic yards up and moving to market where it can employ Central Americans on Middle Americans land useing Northern Americans water for the advancement and economic prosperity of the usual capitalist prick pigs.
 

darkbeaver

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Canada had better develop some backbone on this issue. The country's water is not for sale. The US needs to review its own water resource policies to enact provisions that will benefit it in the future. Any Canadian politician that caves on this one deserves the public lynching he'll receive.


The nuclear spine is the only backbone Uncle Sam respects Tamarin. It's strange that you think the water's not for sale when it's bottled and sold everyday in Canada and used by industry either completely free or subsidised by public infrastructure or both. What we're considering today is getting the cubic meters, excuse me,cubic yards up and moving to market where it can employ Central Americans on Middle Americans land useing Northern Americans water for the advancement and economic prosperity of the usual capitalist prick pigs. Do we still have any of those old Bowmark nukes arround or did they pick them up years ago?
 

Toro

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The capitalists economists want the water to move to the markets and so it shall. What use is there in resistance? They will bring democracy and freedom if we don't cooperate. Thank god we just gave them the oil and avoided bad feelings. We have to make sure they get the gas and the rest of the trees too. We should have a look arround to see if we have any fish left for them as well.

Those are fabulous ideas.

If we stuff them faster maybe they'll bloat-up and phuck-off to rapture or resurection or where ever the hell righteous bloated Yankee capitalist pig-dogs go.

We go to Las Vegas.
 

Toro

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Canada had better develop some backbone on this issue. The country's water is not for sale.

Sure it is.

Buy water stocks.

The US needs to review its own water resource policies to enact provisions that will benefit it in the future. Any Canadian politician that caves on this one deserves the public lynching he'll receive.

Now you're just being silly.
 

tamarin

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Toro, you need to read the dailies. Daily. You know this is a hot button issue. And you also know Canadians are pissed about NAFTA regulations on energy and implications for a made-in-Canada water policy.
 

Toro

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Toro, you need to read the dailies. Daily. You know this is a hot button issue. And you also know Canadians are pissed about NAFTA regulations on energy and implications for a made-in-Canada water policy.

Oh tut tut, tamarin.

You are I both know that Canadians are practical people.

Everyone's got their price.



Fore!
 

darkbeaver

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Oh tut tut, tamarin.

You are I both know that Canadians are practical people.

Everyone's got their price.



Fore!
Nice looking spread Toro. Is that what you call a golfs course? Where's the beer? The place needs a windmill. It'll just dry up in a few years anyway. Is that a fake tree in the background?
 

Toro

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Nice looking spread Toro. Is that what you call a golfs course? Where's the beer?

We get the lambic flown in from Belgium, ice cold. $80 a bottle.

The place needs a windmill. It'll just dry up in a few years anyway.
No, no, that's why we need your water!

Is that a fake tree in the background?

Fake? Hardly.

That's a $10,000 Wild Teak tree imported from Africa. We have hundreds of them.
 

darkbeaver

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Toro, you need to read the dailies. Daily. You know this is a hot button issue. And you also know Canadians are pissed about NAFTA regulations on energy and implications for a made-in-Canada water policy.

You're a romantic idealist Tamarin. .Made in Canada water policy. Where do you get these ideas? Policy is formulated and written on Wall Street and passed over to Capitalist Hill where it is efficiently
enacted into law. It then becomes the concern of the Dept of Defence which bombs it into reality.
As you know in a time of war we have no right to deny our staunch allies and protectors the use of those vital resources necessary to conduct a successful campaign to rid the world of every last bit of destructive dissent, and cannibis. Made in Canada water policy, geeessuss, if you're going to drink you should at least un-plug the puter.:lol: