Alberta premier sees red over green guru's criticism

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Jamie Komarnicki, CanWest News Service; Calgary Herald
Published: Sunday, February 25, 2007 CALGARY - Alberta Premier Ed Stelmach defended Alberta's energy industry Saturday and fired back at one of the nation's top environmentalists who questioned his right to lead the province.


In Calgary Friday, David Suzuki said the province's record on curbing greenhouse gas emissions makes Stelmach unworthy of leading Alberta.
Alberta needs to ease up on oilsands development until industry catches up with more efficient ways of extracting energy, Suzuki said.
"Tackling the issue of greenhouse gas reduction will require more than hot air and grandstanding. It requires recognition that C02 reductions will require sacrifice on behalf of all Canadians in reducing individual energy consumption," Stelmach said Saturday in a statement.
"Mr. Suzuki's comments reflect the unproductive emotional rhetoric and personal attacks that distract from efforts to find constructive solutions."
Stelmach told a Calgary business crowd last week that while good environmental stewardship is a responsibility, the energy powerhouse province's economic growth won't be sacrificed to meet the Kyoto accord's environmental targets.
Alberta has more than $100 billion worth of oilsands projects on record; the province accounts for about 40 percent of the country's greenhouse gas emissions.
Stelmach pointed to a 16 percent reduction in the province's emissions intensity from 1992 levels; his government has promised to introduce regulations that limit the amount industry emits per barrel of oil produced, though Alberta has held out on cuts to total emission levels.
"The truth is that Alberta's energy industry is already leading the way in developing new methods - particularly C02 sequestration - that are the best hope for significant greenhouse gas reductions," Stelmach said.
Calgary Herald
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Alberta produces 40 percent of the entire countries greenhouse gasses. I've never understood Alberta's rush to sell all of Alberta's oil as quickly as they can. The Alberta government's policies reflect only the greed of the oil companies.
 

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Alberta produces 40 percent of the entire countries greenhouse gasses. I've never understood Alberta's rush to sell all of Alberta's oil as quickly as they can. The Alberta government's policies reflect only the greed of the oil companies.

Yet your own article says GHG emissions in Alberta are 16% BELOW 1992 levels........while in the rest of the country they are much higher.

In fact, do the math. If Alberta produces 16% less GHG that in 1992, and are responsible for 40% of GHG..........and as a whole Canada's emissions have gone UP 30%..............then while Alberta lowered emissions by 16%, the rest of Canada increased emissions by about 50%.

Somehow I think a concentration of criticism on Alberta is somewhat misdirected.
 
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Well what it actually said was the intensity decreased by 16%, that's a measure of emissions and economic activity. So it's probably a result of increased prices for crude.
 

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Rant on here

I really HATE yes HATE that people are politicizing pollution as vote-getter. This concerns the whole planet earth and it is one of the more important discussions we should be having as a group....

Food production, medical aide, education and care of Earth as well as transportation innovations all need to be addressed now.... not as dividing intellectual forensic argument to boost one's "image" in the press...but to solve the problems so we can enact some solutions.

These debates and hysterical reports by both sides of the "fence" only seek to inflame people into emotional confusion instead of scientific comparisons and sharing with each other for proof and correction....

Finger pointing and blame laying are wasted and foolish and yet nations seem to think that is the way to solve problems.....

I want to see in simple terms how nations can work together to cut back pollutants whether the earth is "warming" or not.... because pollution is very real and is changing how we live.

We have been the inheritors of a wonderful place and we seem to be using this very important issue as a political platform instead of a humanitarian issue...for the future of all..
 

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Yet your own article says GHG emissions in Alberta are 16% BELOW 1992 levels........while in the rest of the country they are much higher.

In fact, do the math. If Alberta produces 16% less GHG that in 1992, and are responsible for 40% of GHG..........and as a whole Canada's emissions have gone UP 30%..............then while Alberta lowered emissions by 16%, the rest of Canada increased emissions by about 50%.

Somehow I think a concentration of criticism on Alberta is somewhat misdirected.

Colpy

You missed the new catch phrase, "Emissions intensity" which means nothing. At 40 percent, Aberta is still the biggest polluter, or one of the biggest polluters in the country. It doesn't matter how we say it. We all have to do our share. Including Alberta.
 

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Absolute Emissions versus Emissions Intensity Backgrounder
Source: ClimateBiz

The distinction between absolute emissions and emissions intensity is fairly simple in concept, but may be confusing in practice. “Absolute emissions” is the common measure of emissions that is used by protocols and measuring standards. While the actual calculations may be challenging for a number of reasons (e.g., difficulty in defining boundaries, quantifying activities that result in emissions, or determining proper emissions factors), the concept is fairly simple. Emissions are quantified for some entity, for example a company, university, city, or country, and reported -- usually in terms of tons of carbon dioxide. For example, if Ace Manufacturing Company reports that it produced one million tons of CO2 in 2003, it is reporting its absolute emissions.

Whereas absolute emissions quantifies the amount of carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases produced, emissions intensity reports the amount of emissions per some unit of economic output. This can be done for a company relative to the company’s total profits, or in terms of units of a good produced. For a country, emissions intensity might be calculated as tons of carbon dioxide relative to that country’s gross national product.

Using emissions intensity
As a one-time snapshot of emissions from one entity, the difference between emissions intensity and absolute emissions doesn’t make much sense. There are two instances, however, in which emissions intensity may be illustrative. The first is when comparing emissions over time. If in 1990 Ace Manufacturing produced five hundred thousand tons of CO2, and in 2003 it produced one million tons, its absolute emissions doubled. However, if in that time Ace’s output doubled, then its emissions intensity stayed the same, even while its emissions doubled. If during this time Ace’s output quadrupled, then its emissions intensity was cut in half, showing that the company has become twice as efficient, even though its emissions have increased.
 

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I 100% with Curio, rate now, 95% of the politicians are in it for the press, and who looks greener.

This is a very serious issue about the future of our earth. I mean we could have the Maritimes and B.C. in an enviromental issue in a few decades.

And David Suzuki is no better, pointing fingers, that is not productive.

I may be a right-winger conservative, but that doesn't mean I don't care about our earth.

I think the biggest thing that needs to be dealt with is the automobiles though.
 

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WE are the fingers they're all pointing with. It's only because we vote for people based on their images that they all bitch and fight over them so badly. We should start voting for politicians with no image. No hang on, the Uk tried that with john Major
 

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Sure ,suzuki is an honourable man. He just came to Calgary and told a group of elementary school children that the prime minister of Canada is evil,doesn't care about thier future or the enviroment. Then he explains this away by stating that he was directing his comments to the adults in the audience. That makes about as much sense as going to a pub to talk to children. But hey,who cares about dignity when you are on a mission to save the world.
 

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DAVID SUZUKI
A world-renowned geneticist, academic and broadcaster, Dr. David Suzuki has spent the past 40 years educating the public about environmental issues, both in the classroom and over the airwaves.
David Suzuki As the long-running host of CBC's The Nature of Things and the author of more than 30 books, Suzuki has been called a 'gladiatorial geneticist' who mixes education with entertainment to get his ideas across to the public. Never one to step down from a fight, the passionate and often controversial Suzuki has earned a well-deserved reputation as an environmental guru for two generations of Canadians.
David T. Suzuki and his twin sister Marcia were born in Vancouver, B.C. in 1936. His early years were spent living with his family in the back of their dry-cleaning business in Marpole, a primarily white neighbourhood. His father Kaoru "Carr" Suzuki, an avid outdoorsman, helped shape Suzuki's interest in nature early by taking his son on camping and fishing trips.
His life was uprooted in 1942 when the Suzuki family was sent to an internment camp following the Japanese attacks on Pearl Harbour. The next three years of Suzuki's life were spent living in an abandoned hotel in a former gold rush town. On top of the indignities he and his family experienced, he also became a target for other Japanese youth for his refusal to disavow his Canadian roots.
David Suzuki
PHOTO: CBC After the war, Suzuki and his family were relocated to Ontario where they eventually settled in London. A bright student from a young age, Suzuki enrolled in Amherst College in Massachusetts on a scholarship in 1954. Originally intending to go on to medical school, a third-year genetics class altered his course after he learned of the "detective story" behind genetics research. After graduating from Amherst in 1958, he earned his PhD in Zoology from the University of Chicago before returning to Canada, with his young family in tow. He took on his first teaching jobs, at University of Alberta in 1962, then at the University of British Columbia the subsequent year.
It was around this time that he began appearing as a guest on several TV shows, in part out of curiosity and in part as an effort to drum up public support for what he considered the woefully under-funded sciences. After seeing what effect he was having, he made the move to national broadcasting in 1971 as host of the weekly CBC Television show Suzuki on Science. Four years later he founded CBC Radio's Quirks and Quarks, which gained a loyal audience thanks to its irreverent attitude and use of news headlines as the basis of its science stories.
In 1979, Suzuki became the host of The Nature of Things, which became one of CBC Television's most popular and respected shows. In the three decades since the award-winning program began, it has featured in-depth documentaries on such topics as the birth of the human mind; the language of animals; the pathology of psychopaths; medical marijuana; the growth of big business farming; and the future of the Arctic. A groundbreaking 1987 episode focused on the emerging AIDS/HIV epidemic, providing many Canadians with their first understanding of the disease.
In 1990, he founded the David Suzuki Foundation, a non-profit organization dedicated to finding innovative solutions to help conserve the natural world. Most recently the organization has advocated for Canada to back the implementation of the United Nations Kyoto Protocol on greenhouse gas reduction.
David Suzuki
PHOTO: CBC Suzuki has been awarded numerous recognitions, including a UNESCO prize for science, a United Nations Environment Program medal and an induction as an Officer of the Order of Canada. He has 15 honorary doctorates from universities in Canada, the U.S. and Australia. In addition, Canada's First Nations people have honoured him with five native names and he has been formally adopted by two tribes.
Now retired from teaching, Suzuki has dedicated himself full-time to educating the public about the importance of the natural world. It's a role that places him alongside the likes of Carl Sagan and Jacques Cousteau, and makes him one of the world's most effective ambassadors of science - and our future.

Suzuki, like a lot of scientists, has educated himself across several disciplines. He is most certainly capable of understanding climatology. That he is world renowned in his primary field is beyond question. He has talked about climatology to climatologists and other scientists around the world. I met him while I was at UBC quite a few years back and I was impressed with his quiet, intelligent, manner. Among his many other attributes, he is a nice guy. Are all the people here who knock him, even remotely qualified to criticize him?
 

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..ok So?

He still points fingers and plays on people emotions to get what he wants.

If he wanted to achieve changed to protect our world from GHG he should be positive and have constructive critisicms and not point fingers.

Fame has rotted his head.
 

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Perhaps, I exaggerated a bit, but I met him, too. Although a pleasant enough fella to talk to, I found him a bit overemotional, unaware of his immediate surroundings, and although he spoke in layman's terms, he gave me the impression that he thought himself an expert in a large variety of fields. I liked his dad a whole lot more because he was down to earth and level headed.
Suzuki looks older in that short bio than when I met him, so maybe he's changed a bit and isn't so scatterbrained and haughty now.
 

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DON CHERRY
Outspoken, outrageous and at times outlandish - Don Cherry has been called many things during his 24 years with CBC's Hockey Night in Canada, but he's never been accused of being at a loss for words.
Don Cherry While he's best known for being the flamboyant yin to Ron MacLean's yang on the popular Coach's Corner segment, Cherry's long road to fame began more than 50 years ago.
A high school dropout from Kingston, Ontario, Cherry laced up with the American Hockey League's Hershey Bears in 1954 to begin what would be nearly a two-decade playing career. The 20-year-old rookie would jump to a number of minor league teams in the United States and Canada over the course of his 16 years on the ice, bringing his young family with him on more than 50 moves.
Despite his journeyman career, Cherry only played one game in the big leagues; a fill-in game for the Boston Bruins against the Montreal Canadiens during the 1955 playoffs. Tiring of the hockey life, Cherry retired in 1970. After working two years in construction and selling cars, he returned to play with the Rochester Americans in 1971. Not long after, he was hired on as a replacement for the club's coach, who had been fired mid-season.
Finding his stride, Cherry spent three years behind the bench before being promoted to head coach of the Boston Bruins in 1974. The Bruins finished first in their division four seasons in a row and Cherry was voted coach of the year in 1976, before being fired in 1979. He would go on to coach the Colorado Rockies for one unsuccessful season, before a fortuitous on-air appearance changed his life forever.
In 1980 a chance appearance on Hockey Night In Canada, across from host Dave Hodge, impressed CBC officials enough for them to create a platform for the bombastic ex-player and coach. The new segment, dubbed Coach's Corner, would go on to court both controversy and high ratings, as hockey fans rushed to their televisions to take in his singular mix of game analysis, cultural commentary and playful parrying with host Ron MacLean.
Cherry has parlayed his broadcast success into a line of popular videos, a chain of restaurants, a syndicated radio show and lucrative endorsements. In addition to these ventures he has spent the past year raising funds for Rose Cherry's Home for Kids, a hospice for terminally ill children. Named after his beloved wife, who died of cancer in June 1997, Don Cherry has passionately campaigned for the Milton, Ontario hospice both on and off the air.
Controversial and contentious, whatever some may think of Don Cherry he has earned himself an indelible place as a Canadian icon.

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I wonder what Don thinks about the situation? He's one of the Top Ten Greatest Canadians too!
 

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I think whoever developed this "Greatest Canadians" thing is a bit out of touch with reality:
Don Cherry While he's best known for being the flamboyant yin to Ron MacLean's yang
While "yin" would be dark, passive, downward, cold, contracting, and weak, "yang" would be bright, active, upward, hot, expanding, and strong.
-http://fly.cc.fer.hr/~shlede/ying/yang.html
 

#juan

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..ok So?

He still points fingers and plays on people emotions to get what he wants.

If he wanted to achieve changed to protect our world from GHG he should be positive and have constructive critisicms and not point fingers.

Fame has rotted his head.

What is your excuse?