The NDP, the war, and the Americans

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The person that wrote this article is brilliant, the truth and nothing but the truth. I highlighted my favorite bits.



The NDP, the war, and the Americans




http://ads.thestar.com/event.ng/Typ...12i5ucq&Redirect=http://www.specnewhomes.com/ By J.L. Granatstein
The Hamilton Spectator
(Nov 1, 2006) New Democratic Party Leader Jack Layton has been demanding that Canada cease its combat role in Kandahar, a war, he says, that cannot be won, and devote itself to aid and development efforts there.
In arguing this, he is on the moderate edge of his party -- constituency associations at the NDP's recent convention proposed resolutions that called Canadian troops "terrorists" and an "occupation" force -- but he easily carried his delegates with him. Support the troops, the New Democrats cry. Bring 'em home. Opinion polls suggest that preaching against the Afghan war resonates with Canadians.
The New Democratic Party is not one with much military expertise in its ranks. Layton himself has none; nor does Alexa McDonough, the former party leader. Only Nova Scotia MP Peter Stoffer (who spoke in opposition to Layton's Afghan policy at the convention) and Winnipeg MP Bill Blaikie speak with any authority on military matters.
Yet the NDP is scoring points with its Afghanistan position, especially as the casualties in the Canadians' Kandahar operation continue their steady rise. Why?
The NDP always harks back to Canada's proud tradition of United Nations peacekeeping. Canadians love peacekeeping which they associate with doing good, a military on the cheap, no casualties, and a role that differentiates them from their superpower neighbour. For a half-century, Canadians kept the peace in Cyprus, the Middle East, and the Congo with their blue berets and white-painted vehicles, while the United States makes war everywhere. This popular belief bears scant connection with either history or the reality of modern UN operations, but neither the NDP nor the public seems to care.
In fact, the NDP would far prefer Canada's troops be deployed to Darfur in Sudan than to Kandahar. There, the UN would be in charge, or so Layton appears to believe.
There are, of course, a few practical problems with a Darfur operation. The Khartoum government refuses entry to UN troops and threatens a jihad against them if they dare to come. Then, Canada has no way to get troops, even if it had the troops to send, to Darfur, no way to support them logistically in a barren area of the world, and no way to get them out in an emergency. Moreover, the casualties in Darfur might be far higher than in Afghanistan.
Nonetheless, because the United States is (relatively) uninvolved and because women and children are being brutalized, Darfur is the NDP's preferred operation.
The Afghanistan operation by contrast is portrayed as the work of a coalition of the willing -- the United States, the North Atlantic Treaty Organization, and a few other American satraps such as Australia. To Layton, Kandahar is just another part of George Bush's Great War on Terror. "It's time," he said on Sept. 26, "for a new approach. One that puts reconstruction, development and aid ahead of counter-insurgency."
What Layton refuses to acknowledge is that the Afghan operation has been sanctioned by repeated UN resolutions, and is yet another military operation subcontracted by the UN to those who are willing to pick up the burden.
The UN's undersecretary-general for peacekeeping, Jean-Marie Guehenno, says bluntly that traditional UN peacekeepers can't do the job in Afghanistan where robust forces are needed to take on the Taliban insurgents. The world organization wants its political and humanitarian efforts in Afghanistan to succeed, and Guehenno understands that without military action, the development and stabilization efforts could be stymied. He this month even congratulated Canada for sending tanks to Kandahar!
Not one Canadian in a hundred, and certainly not Jack Layton and friends, understands that the United Nations considers the troops fighting in Afghanistan to be carrying out a Security Council mandate. The Canadian government would be wise to make this clear to the public.
That won't stop the NDP, of course. While Layton's every instinct is to say that the United Nations is always good, his true default position is that the United States is forever evil. In Orwellian terms, the New Democrats equivalent to "four legs good, two legs bad" is "UN good, U.S. evil."
Anti-Americanism sells well in Canada today, and U.S. President George Bush is arguably the president of the last hundred years most despised by Canadians. So long as Stephen Harper insists on operating from what Layton calls "President George Bush's tired playbook," he will be painted as sharing a bed with the unpopular U.S. president.
Canadians unhappy with the softwood lumber deal, with tightening border controls, and the Arar case are quick to accept Layton's anti-Americanism at face value.
So, claiming to support our troops, Layton's NDP wants our soldiers to concentrate on reconstruction and to opt out of an unwinnable war. Every Canadian wants an end to the war in Afghanistan and the establishment of government that can control this tribalized, dangerous state. Unfortunately, it will take combat to hold down the Islamist terrorists sufficiently to allow reconstruction and development to proceed. Ottawa understands this and even the United Nations does.
Why doesn't Jack Layton get the message? The reason is clear: he believes that he can parlay Canadian casualties in Kandahar and the strident anti-Americanism in Canada into votes in the next election. He might be right, but Canadians should understand the bald-faced cynicism that underlies his policy.
J.L. Granatstein is a noted Canadian author and historian. He writes on behalf of the Council for Canadian Security in the 21st Century --www.ccs21.org.
 

Ensign Redshirt

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I think the article did a good job of showing the inconsistencies of the NDP's position, but it went overboard at this point:

Why doesn't Jack Layton get the message? The reason is clear: he believes that he can parlay Canadian casualties in Kandahar and the strident anti-Americanism in Canada into votes in the next election. He might be right, but Canadians should understand the bald-faced cynicism that underlies his policy.


I'm enough of a cynic to believe Layton has one eye focused on the next election, but I think his stance is based on firm beliefs. These beliefs may be wrong (and I think they are), but they are genuine.
 

Tonington

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I would love to know how Layton expects there to be an kind of reconstruction, rebuilding, stabilization and progress made without troops there. Taking troops out of there would leave the Afghan people alone, and unable to combat the Taliban who would surely seize control again.

John Kerry's remarks apply here, only in the opposite context. If Leytonb knew anything about the history of Afghanistan, he would realize the importance of keeping troops there to ensure that history does not repeat itself. Leaving would only create a vacuum for another oppresive regime to fill.

There was an interesting study done where the amount of troops Americans send to a country and the amount of time they spend there, is directly proportional to an increase in GDP by the occupied country. The conclusions reached by this study were that the level of troop deployment allows for rebuilding, stabilization, and an investment in that country by it's own citizens. Without the security there could be no advances.
 

Tonington

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Well thats two posts where you show your disapproval of the story. Care to elaborate?
 

BitWhys

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Well thats two posts where you show your disapproval of the story. Care to elaborate?

As soon as I saw the "s" at the end of "association" I knew the rest of the article wouldn't be worth my time.
 

Tonington

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I am by no means trying to make this personal. I just wanted to know what your opposition was based on.
 

Tonington

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Wow. I merely thought that if you were the first to post in this thread it might have been pertinent to read the first post objectively then comment, and that if it indeed was a waste of time, I know I personally would probably move on. I still am not really sure what your objections were, I'm having problems making connections with your NATO and ISAF comments as they relate to the posting.
 

BitWhys

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What's wrong with it?

one

ONE riding association submitted a stupid resolution that used the t-word referring to our troops. Suffice it to say it never made the floor.

SL said the article is nothing but the truth. She's wrong. 'nuff said.
 

Tonington

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Well, I never believe that any news article is 100 % accurate. I did feel the rest of the article did show how out of touch Layton is on this issue. I think Layton should concentrate on his green plan.
 

Jay

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ONE riding association submitted a stupid resolution that used the t-word referring to our troops. Suffice it to say it never made the floor.

Is it really out of touch with the NDP supporters?
 

BitWhys

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Well, I never believe that any news article is 100 % accurate. I did feel the rest of the article did show how out of touch Layton is on this issue. I think Layton should concentrate on his green plan.

I already had to correct your impression of Jack's position once so really, how the hell should you know?
 

Tonington

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I'm not sure if it is out of touch with NDP supporters, I only know a few. I think it is out of touch with reality, and what is trully good for the Afghan people as well as the western democracies.