North American integration - second North American Forum

While the media were busy obsessing over rumours of a budding romance between Condoleezza Rice and Peter MacKay last week, a more significant relationship was developing behind closed doors.

Away from the spotlight, from September 12 to 14, in Banff Springs, Minister of Public Safety Stockwell Day and Defence Minister Gordon O'Connor met with U.S. and Mexican government officials and business leaders to discuss North American integration at the second North American Forum.

It's only a matter of time before we take over and have you all saying "y'all" instead of "eh". Muahahahaha!

The biggest threat Canada will have if it wants to remain a country is not terrorism, that is just a threat targetted from time to time from different groups, in this day and age, Al Qaida, but the major threat that will always be canada's threat if it wants to survive as a country is America.

Quote: Originally Posted by Researcher87

The biggest threat Canada will have if it wants to remain a country is not terrorism, that is just a threat targetted from time to time from different groups, in this day and age, Al Qaida, but the major threat that will always be canada's threat if it wants to survive as a country is America.

Explain....? How is America a "threat" to Canada? Do you know something I don't? LOL!.....Is Canada about to become our 51st and largest state??

Quote: Originally Posted by Proud American

Quote: Originally Posted by Researcher87

The biggest threat Canada will have if it wants to remain a country is not terrorism, that is just a threat targetted from time to time from different groups, in this day and age, Al Qaida, but the major threat that will always be canada's threat if it wants to survive as a country is America.

Explain....? How is America a "threat" to Canada? Do you know something I don't? LOL!.....Is Canada about to become our 51st and largest state??

I doubt that!

You guys REALLY want 35 million DEMOCRATS to join up?

Maybe I'm asking the wrong person...........

You guys REALLY want 35 million DEMOCRATS to join up?

America is Canada's biggest threat because at some point in time, someone might just come along and say, well what's the point in having a larger nation with a smaller population up north from us. And we have such an expanding population, some of that room would be nice for Americans to settle.

It is something in America called Manifest Destiny where they should believe their flag should fly all the way to the North Pole, and since America tried to invade in 1812 and failed, attempted to support the Fenians in 1860s and failed and had invasion plans in the 1930s to invade Canada, even though terrorism may be apart of the threat level, America will always be a threat for Canada to be a nation.

America isn't just going to absorb a soveriegn nation as new territory..I mean, they haven't done that since Hawaii..and that was way back in the Twentieth Century, we are in the Twenty-First now!

Interesting take there. Tell us about the Canadian version of Manifest Destiny instead. If you have trouble understanding what it is, look at a map what Canada was in 1867 and look at it now.

Canada's manifest destiny was from sea to sea, and then sea which was taken through negotiation and swallowed up territory that was independent mostly of british or Canadian control.

America is Canada's biggest threat because at some point in time, someone might just come along and say, well what's the point in having a larger nation with a smaller population up north from us. And we have such an expanding population, some of that room would be nice for Americans to settle.

It is something in America called Manifest Destiny where they should believe their flag should fly all the way to the North Pole, and since America tried to invade in 1812 and failed, attempted to support the Fenians in 1860s and failed and had invasion plans in the 1930s to invade Canada, even though terrorism may be apart of the threat level, America will always be a threat for Canada to be a nation.

Absolutely, Wednesday's Child !!

If Mexico could become the manufacturing engine
China has become, NAFTA would sure become a
benefit to all 3 trading partners.

Instead of the giant sucking sound big floppy eared
Ross Perot spoke of in 1992.

Saying that the US is Canada's biggest threat is silly paranoia.

Canadian, U.S., and Mexican elites, including CEOS and politicians, have a plan to create common North American policies and further integrate our economies into a North American Union.

The end goal of the plan is to create a North American Union (NAU) by 2007, a new political and economic entity that would supercede the current countries of Canada, the U.S. and Mexico.

In a report released on May 17, the Task Force recommends that the Canadian government make a number of changes to speed further economic integration of Canada and Mexico with the United States. Those recommendations include reviewing excluded sections of NAFTA, such as water, and removing any existing barriers to energy, which critics say would threaten Canada’s own domestic energy security.

Silly paranoia eh ?

Our WATER is attractive to the Americans, our OIL is too, and another 30million consumers/workers paying taxes to that huge war machine would help them too.

Here are links from Vive le Canada organisation that help explain:

Say No to Deep Integration with the United States!
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Canadian, U.S., and Mexican elites, including CEOS and politicians, have a plan to create common North American policies and further integrate our economies into a North American Union.

The end goal of the plan is to create a North American Union (NAU) by 2007, a new political and economic entity that would supercede the current countries of Canada, the U.S. and Mexico.

Timeline of the Progress Toward a North American Union
http://tinyurl.com/kbtbg
Canada’s Independence Threatened by Task Force Recommendations:
http://www.bcpolitics.ca/int_canadathreatened.htm
Quote: In a report released on May 17, the Task Force recommends that the Canadian government make a number of changes to speed further economic integration of Canada and Mexico with the United States. Those recommendations include reviewing excluded sections of NAFTA, such as water, and removing any existing barriers to energy, which critics say would threaten Canada’s own domestic energy security.K - the phrase "removing any existing barriers" means making it easy for corporations to export our oil to the USA - for example with less royalties paid to the Canadian government for our oil, which belongs to the people {"the crown"] until it is extracted.
It also means having less or zero environmental protections and restrictions for those corporations in taking our oil, and water. No emissions controls, no remediating damage to rivers and lakes and natural habitat.
It could also mean that protestors will not be allowed to "bother" those...

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Myth: The SPP was an agreement signed by Presidents Bush and his Mexican and Canadian counterparts in Waco, TX, on March 23, 2005.

Fact: The SPP is a dialogue to increase security and enhance prosperity among the three countries. The SPP is not an agreement nor is it a treaty. In fact, no agreement was ever signed.

Myth: The SPP is a movement to merge the United States, Mexico, and Canada into a North American Union and establish a common currency.

Fact: The cooperative efforts under the SPP, which can be found in detail at www.spp.gov, seek to make the United States, Canada and Mexico open to legitimate trade and closed to terrorism and crime. It does not change our courts or legislative processes and respects the sovereignty of the United States, Mexico, and Canada. The SPP in no way, shape or form considers the creation of a European Union-like structure or a common currency. The SPP does not attempt to modify our sovereignty or currency or change the American system of government designed by our Founding Fathers.

Myth: The SPP infringes on the sovereignty of the United States.

Fact: The SPP respects and leaves the unique cultural and legal framework of each of the three countries intact. Nothing in the SPP undermines the U.S. Constitution. In no way does the SPP infringe upon the sovereignty of the United States.

Myth: The SPP creates a NAFTA-plus legal status between the three countries.

Fact: The SPP does not seek to rewrite or renegotiate NAFTA. It creates no NAFTA-plus legal status.

In 2004, U.S. direct investment in Canada was worth more than $228 billion, while Canadian direct investment in the United States was close to $165 billion, which makes Canada the 7th largest investor in the U.S., accounting for 7.6% of all Foreign Direct Investment (FDI) in that country.

It's only a matter of time before we take over and have you all saying "y'all" instead of "eh". Muahahahaha!