Super Genius
Posts: 1,274 
August 27th, 2006, 09:15 PM
graeme - I followed your link under your FAKED SCIENCE post there a few back. I cannot find anything related to the "scientists" quotes,. i DID find an author named "graeme" who was posting things like this:
Global warming is a very real threat, the damage is being seen allready, and our response is inadequate to even the initial effects [ie New Orleans], and so we won't be able to respond to the severe effects of it. [This is based on the number of scientists who link stronger hurricanes with global warming. ]
Graeme I know you just do this because you like to "rub us liberals the wrong way", thats your thrill and I feed it by replying. I gotta stop/
K
graeme - I followed your link under your FAKED SCIENCE post there a few back. I cannot find anything related to the "scientists" quotes,. i DID find an author named "graeme" who was posting things like this:
Quote:
I don't know why I even respond to posts that say global warming is less important than "what you are having for lunch tomorrow" [not even today].
In the end there just isn’t enough information to say that a climate change is really a bad thing and that it will be detrimental to our way of life. In fact it is very doubtful and being extra precautious about it may not be the right thing to do. There are far more pressing matters in the world today like poverty, disease and what I am going to have for lunch tomorrow.
Global warming is a very real threat, the damage is being seen allready, and our response is inadequate to even the initial effects [ie New Orleans], and so we won't be able to respond to the severe effects of it. [This is based on the number of scientists who link stronger hurricanes with global warming. ]
Graeme I know you just do this because you like to "rub us liberals the wrong way", thats your thrill and I feed it by replying. I gotta stop/
K
Bright Spark
Posts: 313
August 28th, 2006, 09:58 AM
The NDP would not comment on the environmental impact of the production of a new muscle car. Why?
Kyoto? Here in Alberta the Camaro decision is a gift to the energy lobby on a silver platter. The symbolism screams out and will be milked for all it's worth. The East is talk, talk, talk on green hoose gas reduction until they themselves are impacted or reduction interferes with more jobs.
This was a great opportunity for the NDP or Liberals to take a stand for the environment and they sold out because they want those union votes.
Quoting
Yes, the classic weasel answer. Bluster and beat one's breat on the environment or other such issue and then show one's true spots when push comes to shove.
Bitwhys: "damned if you do
damned if you don't"
The classic weasel excuse.
damned if you don't"
The classic weasel excuse.
The NDP would not comment on the environmental impact of the production of a new muscle car. Why?
Kyoto? Here in Alberta the Camaro decision is a gift to the energy lobby on a silver platter. The symbolism screams out and will be milked for all it's worth. The East is talk, talk, talk on green hoose gas reduction until they themselves are impacted or reduction interferes with more jobs.
This was a great opportunity for the NDP or Liberals to take a stand for the environment and they sold out because they want those union votes.
Knows No Bounds
Posts: 2,687 
August 28th, 2006, 09:58 AM
Science talking: The extra carbon in the atmosphere isn't man made.
Its man MINED, we dug it out of the ground. Rather than putting less in the air (ie using less fuel) which is still just walking to hell in a handbasket..only more slowly,
We need to actually put carbon BACK into the ground after we mine it. Some people actually do this, we have a major installation of this in Alberta I believe "Turning the smokestack upside down" as the tagline goes.
One plant is the equivalent of taking 1 million cars off the road for a year.
Using less energy is not the answer, thats asking to revert back the clock on technology. The Answer is the simple one, you take carbon out of the earth, put equal carbon back in the earth.
Science talking: The extra carbon in the atmosphere isn't man made.
Its man MINED, we dug it out of the ground. Rather than putting less in the air (ie using less fuel) which is still just walking to hell in a handbasket..only more slowly,
We need to actually put carbon BACK into the ground after we mine it. Some people actually do this, we have a major installation of this in Alberta I believe "Turning the smokestack upside down" as the tagline goes.
One plant is the equivalent of taking 1 million cars off the road for a year.
Using less energy is not the answer, thats asking to revert back the clock on technology. The Answer is the simple one, you take carbon out of the earth, put equal carbon back in the earth.
what green dots?
Posts: 3,157
August 28th, 2006, 10:22 AM
Quoting
The NDP would not comment on the environmental impact of the production of a new muscle car. Why?
Kyoto? Here in Alberta the Camaro decision is a gift to the energy lobby on a silver platter. The symbolism screams out and will be milked for all it's worth. The East is talk, talk, talk on green hoose gas reduction until they themselves are impacted or reduction interferes with more jobs.
This was a great opportunity for the NDP or Liberals to take a stand for the environment and they sold out because they want those union votes.
the NDP position on the necessity for vehicle emission standards has already been stated quite clearly.
Quoting
Yes, the classic weasel answer. Bluster and beat one's breat on the environment or other such issue and then show one's true spots when push comes to shove.
Bitwhys: "damned if you do
damned if you don't"
The classic weasel excuse.
damned if you don't"
The classic weasel excuse.
The NDP would not comment on the environmental impact of the production of a new muscle car. Why?
Kyoto? Here in Alberta the Camaro decision is a gift to the energy lobby on a silver platter. The symbolism screams out and will be milked for all it's worth. The East is talk, talk, talk on green hoose gas reduction until they themselves are impacted or reduction interferes with more jobs.
This was a great opportunity for the NDP or Liberals to take a stand for the environment and they sold out because they want those union votes.
Bright Spark
Posts: 313
August 28th, 2006, 10:42 AM
Who cares what the NDP 'official' position is. Just makes them bigger hypocrites when the chips are on the table. Motherhood and apple pie.
Zzarchov: " Using less energy is not the answer, thats asking to revert back the clock on technology."
The NDP would agree. The answer is to build new muscle cars in Ontario.
Who cares what the NDP 'official' position is. Just makes them bigger hypocrites when the chips are on the table. Motherhood and apple pie.
Zzarchov: " Using less energy is not the answer, thats asking to revert back the clock on technology."
The NDP would agree. The answer is to build new muscle cars in Ontario.
Bright Spark
Posts: 277
August 28th, 2006, 11:38 AM
On the positive side this helps the Green Party. The NDP is dead federally in Alberta and Quebec and this is another stone on their grave. Against a new Liberal leader the NDP is going to fade to the low teens in support across the country and the Greens will rise to about 7%.
On the positive side this helps the Green Party. The NDP is dead federally in Alberta and Quebec and this is another stone on their grave. Against a new Liberal leader the NDP is going to fade to the low teens in support across the country and the Greens will rise to about 7%.
