Did you think Harper was trying to avoid the conference by heading up north?...Did you think he was making excuses?
Harper and the AIDS conference in Toronto
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I didn't want our PM at this conference and I certainly didn't want the conference in Canada. Given the inability of the world and the key countries where AIDS is a major problem to get the damn job done and read the riot act to the large number of offending citizens cavalierly passing the disease on, I see no place for Canada on the front lines at all.
I don't care if Harper goes. It is a photo op nothing more. Too much was made of it.
If they people at the conference come up with a game plan let us know.
Bill Gates has more sway and money to help the problem than anyone else in the world. I wish Bill luck.
If they people at the conference come up with a game plan let us know.
Bill Gates has more sway and money to help the problem than anyone else in the world. I wish Bill luck.
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Yes...i might be a photo-opp for Harper....but dont you think as Prime Minister of Canada...he should go?
iARTthere4iam said:
Yes...i might be a photo-opp for Harper....but dont you think as Prime Minister of Canada...he should go?
Well, our head of state de facto was there, but not de jure.zoofer said:
Her speeches were made with good intentions though, and in my view, she was one of the most practical and understanding of the people at the Conference.
Personally, I think the poignancy of the conference was slightly overshadowed by all the negativity surrounding Harper's no show.
It's a shame, from both sides, really.
It's a shame, from both sides, really.
You guys noe that the people working at the Delta-Chelsea hotel...where the conference was held...workers who wore badges were suspended from their jobs...i mean...this is insane...they jus want to speak up....
No reason for Harper to attend, and the best reason is that the lunatic left would have used the opportunity to heckle him over his SSM proposals. Proposals which have NOTHING to do with an AIDS conference.
With the middle east, softwood lumber, and the Arctic all on his plate, the AIDS conference was not high on his list of priorities. Given that more people die from cancer each year in Canada, I would prefer he focus his energies there, if necessary.
With the middle east, softwood lumber, and the Arctic all on his plate, the AIDS conference was not high on his list of priorities. Given that more people die from cancer each year in Canada, I would prefer he focus his energies there, if necessary.
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Sine000, the were suspended for wearing Union badges, they were allowed to wear the conferance badges, they had been told weeks prior not to wear the union badges, no one at that time disagreed.
sine000 said:
Sine000, the were suspended for wearing Union badges, they were allowed to wear the conferance badges, they had been told weeks prior not to wear the union badges, no one at that time disagreed.
Re: RE: Harper and the AIDS conference in Toronto
If their company tells them that a badge is unacceptable, that's their business isn't it? If you don't like it, tell the company.
sine000 said:
If their company tells them that a badge is unacceptable, that's their business isn't it? If you don't like it, tell the company.
Re: RE: Harper and the AIDS conference in Toronto
Way (multiples) less than heart disease, diabetes, breast cancer, lung cancer, prostate cance and so forth. The PM should spend his time attending conference on health issues? Why. what are all those thousands of health professionals paid for?
The next time there is a conference on liver disease, the PM should attend?
sine000 said:
Way (multiples) less than heart disease, diabetes, breast cancer, lung cancer, prostate cance and so forth. The PM should spend his time attending conference on health issues? Why. what are all those thousands of health professionals paid for?
The next time there is a conference on liver disease, the PM should attend?
No--but he should attend the international symposium on religion induced psychopathology--he might learn something about himself.
Re: RE: Harper and the AIDS conference in Toronto
It really isn't that simple for millions of people around the world who have been infected. The country with one of the highest infection rates coincidentally has one of the highest rates of rape. More and more children are born with the disease. Women in most of the third world can't insist on condoms unfortunately.
I think it's a shame the PM didn't go, but I think it's worse that a medical disease is still being stigmatized by people who think they are immune to it.
athabaska said:
It really isn't that simple for millions of people around the world who have been infected. The country with one of the highest infection rates coincidentally has one of the highest rates of rape. More and more children are born with the disease. Women in most of the third world can't insist on condoms unfortunately.
I think it's a shame the PM didn't go, but I think it's worse that a medical disease is still being stigmatized by people who think they are immune to it.
I saw a program on this the other night. The president (is that correct?) and the Minister of Health in South Africa don't even believe in modern medicine for AIDS (please tell me if I have the names wrong) The Minister of Health was quoted as saying they tell their citizens to use a more practical solution to AIDS such as better diets. The government doesn't approve and has kicked out modern doctors that have been sent from the states. But if I heard it right the pharmaceutical companies are bending the ear of the government not encouraging the wide distributions of medications known to stay off symptoms of full blown AIDS.
In short and in my opinion, the pharmaceutical companies are not willing to sell these drugs at a rate a third world country can afford and again my opinion this government is killing off most of their poor. If cesarean sections were practiced the babies have a greater chance of living without being infected with AIDS. The fact that the PM wasn't there wasn't about AIDS as a disease it was about as AIDS in politics and will the world justify millions dying because their government sees them as a disposable population.
In short and in my opinion, the pharmaceutical companies are not willing to sell these drugs at a rate a third world country can afford and again my opinion this government is killing off most of their poor. If cesarean sections were practiced the babies have a greater chance of living without being infected with AIDS. The fact that the PM wasn't there wasn't about AIDS as a disease it was about as AIDS in politics and will the world justify millions dying because their government sees them as a disposable population.
Africa has an epidemic of the disease because of its attitude. Does it prosecute those who spread AIDS? Does it insist African men change their outlook and finally accept responsibility for their sexual behaviour? We are not responsible for other nations' laxness and stupidity. I am tired of being dumped on by countries who just don't get what it is to be a real country.