dots fail to connect for Steve

[BitWhys]

If it isn't obvious enough yet I'll say it outright. Harper needs to tank Parliament before the Fiscal Update. My gonads told me this weeks ago but its nice to hear it from someone with credentials.

PM has little spending room, economist says

...Ottawa is in little danger of slipping into deficit. Mr. Drummond projected it will reap surpluses of $25.9-billion over five years.

But there is not enough spare cash in any one of those years to fund the full annual cost of a GST cut, because another Tory election pledge means that 60 per cent of that $25.9-billion will be used to pay off the national debt at a rate of $3-billion a year...

the cupboard is bare so all those other promises...

honouring the Kelowna targets
"made in Canada" climate solution
addressing the fiscal imbalance
the other 1% in GST
whatever, it kind of like herding cats...

are going to have to be no-cost policy wonderkinds, maybe over and above the $22.5B in "moderating spending" they're supposed to come up with.

So what's a government to do? Force the opposition's hand over the Lumber Deal before the update seems to be the current ticket. Problem is, Harper hasn't taken into account one last wildcard that may well prevent the bill from ever reaching the floor...

Lumber executives meet to plot strategy

...Quinn said it would be hard for Harper to back down now and Ottawa may leave it to the industry to kill the deal by refusing to remove its lawsuits instead...

Its going to be a hell of a session. Rona's promised that "made in Canada" plan for October. I hope for her sake she's got something more substantial at this juncture than made-for-campaign point form notes.

 

[FiveParadox]

Re: Agreement Spells Failure

The Government of Canada under the leadership of The Right Honourable Stephen Harper, P.C., M.P., the Member for Calgary Southwest and the Prime Minister of Canada, is in danger of being pushed into a corner and, possibly, defeated.

In terms of The Honourable Rona Ambrose, P.C., M.P., the Member for Edmonton—Spruce Grove and the Minister of the Environment, I am close to giving up on her. She has been absolutely useless as the Environment Minister thus far—the only action she has taken so far on the environment was attempting to sabotage the Kyoto Accord at the United Nations Conference of the Parties to the Kyoto Protocol. If she can't present an outstanding environment plan in Autumn, she should resign.

 

[BitWhys]

The Fiscal Update is in November. By then Steve's fiscal house of cards will be on the table, we'll see what Rona's got under that bad hair of hers, the $SSM$ vote will be history and the last (and most significant to the voting public) two of the original top 5 priorities will either have some meat on them or, heh, not.

winter elections are kinda fun.

 

[lo2]

sad but funny

 

[FiveParadox]

Re: Senate Reform

Not to mention the fact that the Senate (members from both the Liberal Party of Canada and the Conservative Party of Canada) are likely going to reject Bill S-4, An Act to amend the Constitution Act, 1867 (Senate tenure). The Senate recently referred the piece of legislation to the Special Committee on Senate Reform before second reading—a highly unusual step, and indicative of the fact that the Senate isn't prepared to adopt the legislation at this time. Harper might use a rejection in the Senate as an excuse to run hopping-mad into an election (then again, his support from his own party in the Senate is luke-warm, at best).

 

[BitWhys]

SEVEN priorities!

no one expects the inquisition. :lol:

 

[wallyj]

Finally we have a PM with some intelligence and the left is running scared. KYOTO was a farce,even Dion admitted that yesterday,saying it was basically a plan to heighten awareness of global warming. Yeah right,at a cost of approx.3 billion a year. Bring on the election,I can hardly wait for a conservative majority.

 

[BitWhys]

You're right, the Green Plan was deficient, as in NO amount of cash is going cut down on Conservative Hot Air but (not too) amazingly Harper managed to take a lame plan, make it worse and leave no room to manouver in the process.

scared of what? a party with the same percentage points now as at election time? wow. must be one hell of a campaign you got planned there.

feel free to comment on the actual topic at your leisure.

 

[Semperfi_dani]

RE: dots fail to connect

As far as I am concerned he fails to connect the dots on most things. And the sad thing is, people flock to his so called "Seven Priorities" because they think its the solution to all the issues, when they don't even touch the surface or are that complex to have a lasting impact. Maybe they are called the "seven priorities" because priority 8,9, and 10 are so damn bad, they aren't worth mentioning. Maybe that's all this party has, enough to win the next election, than people will see them for what they really are, a western based ideologue party who we can all lovingly call "republican light".

 

[wallyj]

You mention the Kelowna targets,huh,what are those. The other 1% GST will be coming over the next 3 years as promised,On the climate,hopefully this fall,fiscal imba;ance,they are working on it. This PM has done more in 6 months than Martin did in 2 years. Also he has made Canadians prouder to be Canadian than 13 years of Liberal rule. Bring on the election.Also there was only 5 priorities not 7 as you so erroneously wrote.

 

[Semperfi_dani]

RE: dots fail to connect

5 Priorities that don't really do anything to solve the problem, but sure make people think that the PC party walks on water.

 

[iARTthere4iam]

Semperfi_dani Posted: Jul 25th, 2006 9:39 pm Post subject: RE: dots fail to connect

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5 Priorities that don't really do anything to solve the problem, but sure make people think that the PC party walks on water.

everything can't be a priority...that's what makes them priorities, you focus on something or nothing gets done

 

[Semperfi_dani]

RE: dots fail to connect

Well i guess i will be content for the next few years of getting a lot of big pretty wrapped gifts with sparkly bows on them..and the dissapointment of opening the box to see nothing is there.

Give me the small plain wrapped gifts please.

 

[BitWhys]

Re: RE: dots fail to connect for Steve

You mention the Kelowna targets,huh,what are those. The other 1% GST will be coming over the next 3 years as promised,On the climate,hopefully this fall,fiscal imba;ance,they are working on it. This PM has done more in 6 months than Martin did in 2 years. Also he has made Canadians prouder to be Canadian than 13 years of Liberal rule. Bring on the election.Also there was only 5 priorities not 7 as you so erroneously wrote.

5 original and the one he slipped into the list in his Report Magazine love letter makes six and the 7th about the Senate terms was obviously a joke. Unless of course he pooches parliament over it before he actually delivers on the last 2 of the original 5 which would obviously make it more important than them.

he hasn't done squat. he passed a tinker-putt budget that brought us one step closer to nowhere. big deal. that and declare "peace in our time" over the lumber deal.

speaking of the topic, wonder if a NAFTA Chapter 11 filing makes grounds for an injunction.

 

[FiveParadox]

Re: The Five Priorities!

¹Hark, and then the HARPER descended unto Parliament, and He declared, ²"Let there be the Five Priorities!", and the Priorities appeared. ³Alas!—nothing happened. Surprise.

Behold! The five fabled priorities of wonder!

1. Lower taxes for everyone through a G.S.T. cut.
   Botched—breaks for some, increases for others. The Government reduced G.S.T. by one percent, and threw together the money for the break by throwing more people onto the income tax rolls, and increasing the amount that they would pay on income tax.
2. Clean up the Government with the Federal Accountability Act.
   Botched—keeps secrets, doesn't like debate. The Government demanded that the Act be rammed through the Commons and the Senate, even disrespecting and insulting the honourable Senate. Refuses to give up the convention books—what are they hiding?
3. Crack down on crime.
   Botched—lies to Canadians, gives useless legislation. The Government attempted to incite fear in Canadians, suggesting that crime was at epidemic levels, when it's actually decreasing. Threatens to end the gun registry without a democratic vote, and enacts minimum sentence legislation, which has been proven to have no effect on crime rates.
4. Create a universal child care program.
   Botched—Taxes away benefits, Flaherty sabotages parents. The Government decided to make the child care chunk-of-change taxable, decreasing the money going to needy parents; Minister Flaherty suggests that more credits and lower taxes from the feds are a perfect chance for the Provinces to make more money from parents.
5. Create a Patient Wait Times guarantee.
   Forgotten.
   
   But wait, there's more!
6. New Priority #6: Made-in-Canada environmental plan!
   Doesn't exist—sabotages Kyoto internationally, and Environment Canada at home. Minister Ambrose attempted to sabotage the Kyoto Protocol for other nations at a U.N. conference, talks about joining the U.S.-rejected AP6, cuts dozens of environment programs, cuts Environment Canada funding by 80%, and refuses to answer environment questions in the House, other than with "we need a made-in-Canada plan."
7. New Priority #7: Destroy the independence of the Senate.
   Botched (thankfully)—tries to force every senator to submit to the Prime Minister's will. Even some Conservative senators oppose the Government's terrible plan to compromise the independence of the Senate, and give more power to the Prime Minister. The Senate referred the legislation to committee before second reading, showing that the rejection of the legislation is in the works.

 

[Semperfi_dani]

RE: dots fail to connect

Well said Five Paradox!!!!

¹Hark, and then the HARPER descended unto Parliament, and He declared, ²"Let there be the Five Priorities!", and the Priorities appeared. ³Alas!—nothing happened. Surprise.

Testify! Testify! Testify! *running up the aisles with my arms in the air* Save me Jesu..er...Stevus.

 

[iARTthere4iam]

1. GST is a universally hated tax that the Liberals were supposed to do away with long ago...at least Harper kept his promise
2.Convention books? who cares harper is a policy wonk this is like a coach giving away a playbook
3.I'd rather real criminals go to jail than create new criminals out of innocent gun owners.
4.Child care. you don't have to like it but it is a solution that is fair to all with children not skewed to those parents that work.
5.Wait times -Please be patient ha ah ha
6.Thank god he got ride of that stupid UN horse shit
7. No please don't make the Senate relavant and get rid of all those beautiful Pork posts

 

[BitWhys]

...
2.Convention books? who cares harper is a policy wonk this is like a coach giving away a playbook...

:lol: :lol: :lol:

your words

not mine

:lol: :lol: :lol:

 

[iARTthere4iam]

Ya...I happen to like my words...they make sense to me...and that's what matters...to me

 

[BitWhys]

RE: dots fail to connect

spoken like a true Tory voter.