Cosmopolitan Party of Canada?

Karlin

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On first glance, it appears to be a humanist party, where the most essential and best human values are paramount. They are ready to uproot the "Mammon" [unjust richness] that has become established in all western cultures of the "first world", that wealth that is concentrated in so few hands now, that wealth that allows a few Elites to create wars and global warming and so much evil.

I do like their pacifist ways, and service to humanity and social values, but religion? Nope, sorry, its not helping.


References to religious quotations cited by Cosmopolitan, are listed in the book by Jeffrey Moses entitled 'Oneness: Great Principles Shared by All Religions'.

...uplift humankind to a human condition of spontaneous peace, equality, and social justice towards a "Promised Land in association with the fulfillment of a Kingdom of virtuous existence

however, it is totaly based in religion. i am waiting to form or join a political arty that embraces humanism and unjust wealth concentration and its evil agenda, but without any religious overtones or basis.

There has never been any such group, at lest not one that got anywhere. Its as if no athiest can be pure and good and driven to eradicate evil.

Any religious leanings will certainly have the effect of raising the ire of all religions, since they are all so heavy on being dedicated to their own doctrine and history and beliefs.

A religious organisation without referance to history would be a start I suppose. The Cosmo Party isn't it tho.

i do like their pacifist ways, and service to humanity and social values, but religion? Nope, sorry, its not helping.
 

Machjo

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Hey, I used to be a pacifist while in the Canadian army. A while after having lesf the army, I changed my opions a little, and now acknowledge that sometimes a just war is legitimate.

Strange, isn't it?
 

Machjo

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But the references above to the Cosmo party were interesting.

My perpective was similar to the second post. Religion can certainly benefit society, but not when politicised, regardless whether by the right or the left.

So while I might agree with the spiritual ideas of the party, I don't see how those ideas will manifest themselves beyond just ideas should the party ever grow. The more it would grow, the more it would be dragged into political mud-slinging. And the more that happens, the more people would view it as hypocritical for a party to present itself as oh so religious when it's just as politically partisan as all the rest, and that would be its take-down. A party that doesn't pretend to be religious on the other hand, while still viewed as partisan and political, at least avoids accusations of hypocrisy.

Of course it could choose to not get into the mud-slinging, but seeing that that's what politics is all about, make no bones about it, they won't go far then.

So in the end, by mixing religion and politics, the party is doomed to fail for that reason alone. Even those who would agree with its principles to some extent still feel queezy about supporting it due to this mixture.

My guess is this party could be much more effective and make a greater contribution to society if it should transform intself from a political party into some kind of inter-faith organisation which does not involve itself in politics, but rather limits itself to public education about certain issues.


Religion and politics never mix.
 

SaintLucifer

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Karlin said:
On first glance, it appears to be a humanist party, where the most essential and best human values are paramount. They are ready to uproot the "Mammon" [unjust richness] that has become established in all western cultures of the "first world", that wealth that is concentrated in so few hands now, that wealth that allows a few Elites to create wars and global warming and so much evil.

I do like their pacifist ways, and service to humanity and social values, but religion? Nope, sorry, its not helping.


References to religious quotations cited by Cosmopolitan, are listed in the book by Jeffrey Moses entitled 'Oneness: Great Principles Shared by All Religions'.

...uplift humankind to a human condition of spontaneous peace, equality, and social justice towards a "Promised Land in association with the fulfillment of a Kingdom of virtuous existence

however, it is totaly based in religion. i am waiting to form or join a political arty that embraces humanism and unjust wealth concentration and its evil agenda, but without any religious overtones or basis.

There has never been any such group, at lest not one that got anywhere. Its as if no athiest can be pure and good and driven to eradicate evil.

Any religious leanings will certainly have the effect of raising the ire of all religions, since they are all so heavy on being dedicated to their own doctrine and history and beliefs.

A religious organisation without referance to history would be a start I suppose. The Cosmo Party isn't it tho.

i do like their pacifist ways, and service to humanity and social values, but religion? Nope, sorry, its not helping.

They are Communists. That much is obvious.
 

Finder

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SaintLucifer, that coming from a facsist only means that the party is left of the Conservative party. lol.

Please explain to me, where they talk about the violent over throw of the bourgeois, by the prolateriate. How there party is the workers Vanguard, and how they will set up a dicatatorship of the prolateriate to usher in an age of peace and the adventual dismantling of the capitalist system and that of government itself through a progression of scientific socialism, which leads to communism.
 

SaintLucifer

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Finder said:
SaintLucifer, that coming from a facsist only means that the party is left of the Conservative party. lol.

Please explain to me, where they talk about the violent over throw of the bourgeois, by the prolateriate. How there party is the workers Vanguard, and how they will set up a dicatatorship of the prolateriate to usher in an age of peace and the adventual dismantling of the capitalist system and that of government itself through a progression of scientific socialism, which leads to communism.

They are clearly communist.
 

BitWhys

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RE: Cosmopolitan Party of

Karlin,

Its not an evil agenda. That's just the way corporatism plays itself out in a quasi-capitalist society. Kind of a bonus for the haves since it more or less takes the pressure off. In fact unless they're really playing reach for the top the less the understand how it really adds up the better off they are. Less stress that way.
 

Finder

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Well this party has no influance, no representation, little no no support, less then the Communist party of Canada, and even fewer ppl willing to run under there banner. I highly doubt they will be a registered party next election. There are a handful of good third parties in Canada. By good I mean parties which funtion like political parties, have a good base of membership, can raise money, run candidates and have been around long enough to weather change and time.

I'm not saying I support any of these parties, merely they have lasted, been able to fund themselves and have something to offer us as Canadians.

Canadian Action Party (Formerly National Party) (Left of centre Liberals)

Communist Party of Canada (Left to fringe left)

Marxist-Leninist Party of Canada AKA: Communist Party of Canada M-L. (Fringe left to facsist Left, Stalinistic party)

The Green Party of Canada (Environmentalists, also the strongest third party in Canada and most likely the only one to see representation any time soon)

Also Historically the Libertarian Party has had some limited success, however they were hurt by the Reform party during the 90's draining there base support. I believe they are slowly coming back, so they might see a little success as well.
 

Blackleaf

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What about the Canadian Reform-Alliance Party (CRAP)?

That's got to be the funniest name for a political party.
 

JonB2004

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Re: RE: Cosmopolitan Party of Canada?

Blackleaf said:
What about the Canadian Reform-Alliance Party (CRAP)?

That's got to be the funniest name for a political party.


:lol:

Yeah, that is a funny name. You would think they would of noticed that when they named the party.