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It's time to bring the death penalty back!

It's time to bring the death penalty back!

Simpleton

#1Jul 15th, 2006

It is time to bring the death penalty back to Canada. Crime is out of control, and people just aren't getting the message. It is widely accepted that jail time is not an adequate deterrant.

Canada needs to bring back public hangings. A public execution is the only way to ensure that people get the picture.

The time for playing games with justice is over. I propose that Canada bring the death penalty back, and that the scope of crimes punishable by death, be expanded to include corrupt police officers and government officials.

A police officer or civil servant that conspires with private enterprise to commit crime and to cover it up, must face the ultimate penalty. They must be executed in the public square.

It is time to get serious. It is time to leave the words behind and get things done. Corruption cannot and will not be tolerated, and the only good deterrant is death.

Throughout history, kings and corrupt government officials have been beheaded for betraying the people. With the advent of democracy, this insistence that officials be held accountable to the people, has been somehow lost. It's time to bring accountability back to Canada. It's time to bring back the gallows, gas chambers, guilotines, and electric chairs. It's time to rid Canada of corruption. And the time tested public execution is the way to do it.

Off with their heads...

Kreskin

RE: It's time to bring the death penalty back!

Jul 15th, 2006

...and public floggings for jaywalkers.

Colpy

Conservative

RE: It's time to bring the death penalty back!

Jul 15th, 2006

Hate to wreck my right-wing looney credentials, but crime in Canada is hardly "out of control". we live in an amazingly peaceful society

DurkaDurka

No Party Affiliation

RE: It's time to bring th

Jul 16th, 2006

I hardly trust our government with a budget, death penalty... no thanks.

Simpleton

Re: RE: It's time to bring the death penalty back!

Jul 16th, 2006

Quote: Originally Posted by Kreskin

...and public floggings for jaywalkers.

Maybe not for jaywalkers, but definitely for radio deejays.

jerry

Re: It's time to bring the death penalty back!

Jul 16th, 2006

Quote:

Hate to wreck my right-wing looney credentials, but crime in Canada is hardly "out of control". we live in an amazingly peaceful society

Yeah, it's funny how the mass media fuelled hysteria on crime make some people lose all perspective on things.

I keep telling people that the US have the death penalty and their crime rate is about 10 times ours. Obviously, it's not a deterrent.

Simpleton

Re: RE: It's time to bring the death penalty back!

Jul 16th, 2006

Quote: Originally Posted by Colpy

Hate to wreck my right-wing looney credentials, but crime in Canada is hardly "out of control". we live in an amazingly peaceful society

We do? Perhaps you haven't been following the news. Or maybe I'm just imagining the burgeoning gun crime problem in cities like Toronto.

Yay, for the death penalty.

Kreskin

Re: RE: It's time to bring the death penalty back!

Jul 16th, 2006

Quote: Originally Posted by Simpleton

Quote: Originally Posted by Kreskin
...and public floggings for jaywalkers.
Maybe not for jaywalkers, but definitely for radio deejays.

Oh absloutely, radio deejays have to be the lowest form of any society.

Simpleton

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Jul 16th, 2006

Quote: Originally Posted by DurkaDurka

I hardly trust our government with a budget, death penalty... no thanks.

But wouldn't you trust them a lot more if you could sit on a jury that was deciding to sentence them to death?

I know I'd sleep very well at night if I knew that certain nameless individuals were sitting on death row. You hearing me, Ronnie?

Simpleton

#10

Re: RE: It's time to bring the death penalty back!

Jul 16th, 2006

Quote: Originally Posted by Kreskin

Quote: Originally Posted by Simpleton
Quote: Originally Posted by Kreskin
...and public floggings for jaywalkers.
Maybe not for jaywalkers, but definitely for radio deejays.
Oh absloutely, radio deejays have to be the lowest form of any society.

Yeah, I like the way you think. You're a smart man, kreskin.

I'm sorry that I made fun of your obesity problem.

DurkaDurka

No Party Affiliation

#11

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Jul 16th, 2006

Quote: Originally Posted by Simpleton

Quote: Originally Posted by DurkaDurka
I hardly trust our government with a budget, death penalty... no thanks.
But wouldn't you trust them a lot more if you could sit on a jury that was deciding to sentence them to death? I know I'd sleep very well at night if I knew that certain nameless individuals were sitting on death row. You hearing me, Ronnie?

I wouldn't sleep any better knowing that our government is putting people to death, We have sufficient means to deal with these people as it is.

Kreskin

#12

Re: RE: It's time to bring the death penalty back!

Jul 16th, 2006

Quote: Originally Posted by Simpleton

Quote: Originally Posted by Kreskin
Quote: Originally Posted by Simpleton
Quote: Originally Posted by Kreskin
...and public floggings for jaywalkers.
Maybe not for jaywalkers, but definitely for radio deejays.
Oh absloutely, radio deejays have to be the lowest form of any society.
Yeah, I like the way you think. You're a smart man, kreskin. I'm sorry that I made fun of your obesity problem.

Problem? Nothing a crane can't handle.

Simpleton

#13

Re: It's time to bring the death penalty back!

Jul 16th, 2006

Quote: Originally Posted by jerry

Quote:
Hate to wreck my right-wing looney credentials, but crime in Canada is hardly "out of control". we live in an amazingly peaceful society
Yeah, it's funny how the mass media fuelled hysteria on crime make some people lose all perspective on things.

I keep telling people that the US have the death penalty and their crime rate is about 10 times ours. Obviously, it's not a deterrent.

You're one step ahead of me, Jerry. We could make media frenzied hysteria punishable by death.

I'm liking where this thread is going.

Not all of the states have the death penalty. And very few convicts are ever sentenced to death. Back in the day, when turnip thieves would have their hands severed, corporal punishment was a very effective deterrent.

I remember being fascinated by corporal punishment when I was in grade eight. I remember being somewhat hypnotized by reading of how India once killed people with elephants. With an almost fiendish pleasure, I imagined the convicted person having his head placed on a rock, and an elephant stepping on it. I imagined the sound of a skull cracking, and was almost driven to absolute ecstacy.

The timeless art of drawing and quartering a person held some fascination for me as well. Current means of execution, like lethal injection, have taken all of the fun out of state sponsored murder.

Kreskin

#14

Re: It's time to bring the death penalty back!

Jul 16th, 2006

Quote: Originally Posted by Simpleton

Quote: Originally Posted by jerryQuote: Hate to wreck my right-wing looney credentials, but crime in Canada is hardly "out of control". we live in an amazingly peaceful societyYeah, it's funny how the mass media fuelled hysteria on crime make some people lose all perspective on things.
I keep telling people that the US have the death penalty and their crime rate is about 10 times ours. Obviously, it's not a deterrent.You're one step ahead of me, Jerry. We could make media frenzied hysteria punishable by death. I'm liking where this thread is going.
Not all of the states have the death penalty. And very few convicts are ever sentenced to death. Back in the day, when turnip thieves would have their hands severed, corporal punishment was a very effective deterrent.
I remember being fascinated by corporal punishment when I was in grade eight. I remember being somewhat hypnotized by reading of how India once killed people with elephants. With an almost fiendish pleasure, I imagined the convicted person having his head placed on a rock, and an elephant stepping on it. I imagined the sound...
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BTK sues the Credit Union. Who knew?

Simpleton

#15

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Jul 16th, 2006

Quote: Originally Posted by DurkaDurka

Quote: Originally Posted by Simpleton
Quote: Originally Posted by DurkaDurka
I hardly trust our government with a budget, death penalty... no thanks.
But wouldn't you trust them a lot more if you could sit on a jury that was deciding to sentence them to death? I know I'd sleep very well at night if I knew that certain nameless individuals were sitting on death row. You hearing me, Ronnie?

I wouldn't sleep any better knowing that our government is putting people to death, We have sufficient means to deal with these people as it is.

Why deal with them? Just lop their heads off and be rid of them.

No stain, no gain...

Kreskin

#16

RE: It's time to bring the death penalty back!

Jul 16th, 2006

Are there any missing people in Sarnia? Simpleton, where do you hide the bodies?

JonB2004

#17

RE: It's time to bring the death penalty back!

Jul 16th, 2006

I agree. Lets bring the death penalty back for all the murderers and sickos. We let them off way too easy these days.

DurkaDurka

No Party Affiliation

#18

RE: It's time to bring th

Jul 16th, 2006

Jon, since when was life in prison easy?

Finder

#19

Re: It's time to bring the death penalty back!

Jul 16th, 2006

It's funny how we look at the past wearing rose coloured glasses and we only see the good and not all the bad.

Anyhow I'm totally against the death penalty.

shannon

#20

Re: It's time to bring the death penalty back!

Jul 16th, 2006

Capital Punishment in this country is long overdue.

I would definitely reinstate it for convicted serial killers, no questions asked. First degree murder convictions would need to be looked at on a case by case basis, along with any recommendations by the jury.

missile

Conservative

#21

Re: It's time to bring the death penalty back!

Jul 16th, 2006

Please do not even consider bringing back the death penalty until long after all my crimes are discovered

Colpy

Conservative

#22

Re: It's time to bring the death penalty back!

Jul 16th, 2006

Quote: Originally Posted by jerry

Quote:
Hate to wreck my right-wing looney credentials, but crime in Canada is hardly "out of control". we live in an amazingly peaceful society
Yeah, it's funny how the mass media fuelled hysteria on crime make some people lose all perspective on things.

I keep telling people that the US have the death penalty and their crime rate is about 10 times ours. Obviously, it's not a deterrent.

Now I'm going to be seen as a contrarian, but it is simply not so that the USA has a higher crime rate than Canada. Actually, the rate of robberies, break-ins, and non-violent crime is less in the USA.

Edited to say..........Sorry, the worst murder rate is in Nunavut, with 13.5 per 100,000. NWT has ONLY 9.5 per 100,000. (2004) Canada wide rate was 2.0 per 100,000.

Even more interestingly, high murder rates in the USA are concentrated in inner cities. The highest murder rate in any state/province is in the Northwest Territories. If you walked the border out west between the USA and Canada, believe it or not, the murder rate is typically LOWER in the border state than in the Canadian province.

Simpleton

#23

Re: RE: It's time to bring the death penalty back!

Jul 16th, 2006

Quote: Originally Posted by JonB2004

I agree. Lets bring the death penalty back for all the murderers and sickos. We let them off way too easy these days.

Hear! Hear!

Simpleton

#24

Re: RE: It's time to bring the death penalty back!

Jul 16th, 2006

Quote: Originally Posted by Kreskin

Are there any missing people in Sarnia? Simpleton, where do you hide the bodies?

I eat them.

There's a little Jeffrey Dahmer in all of us.

Simpleton

#25

Re: RE: It's time to bring th

Jul 16th, 2006

Quote: Originally Posted by DurkaDurka

Jon, since when was life in prison easy?

Last I checked, there were no basketball courts in the gas chambers. There's no color television attached to the electric chair. The hangman just places a hood over the condemned man, and says "no" to the free tattoos. There are no conjugal visits on the gallows. The guilotine isn't a cigarette lighter.

But most importantly, no one gets paroled from a lethal injection. Dead offenders aren't repeat offenders.

And don't forget the watt/inmate ratio. It's cheaper to powerup an electric chair for five minutes, than it is to power a prison cell for 30 or more years.

The mantra: Don't build more prisons, execute more inmates.

Simpleton

#26

Re: It's time to bring the death penalty back!

Jul 16th, 2006

Quote: Originally Posted by shannon

Capital Punishment in this country is long overdue.

I would definitely reinstate it for convicted serial killers, no questions asked. First degree murder convictions would need to be looked at on a case by case basis, along with any recommendations by the jury.

Hear! Hear!

Simpleton

#27

Re: It's time to bring the death penalty back!

Jul 16th, 2006

Quote: Originally Posted by missile

Please do not even consider bringing back the death penalty until long after all my crimes are discovered

Justice must be served. We have to stop playing games with the justice system and get busy administering justice as it were intended. No free rides for those who break the law. No free rides for those who engage in coverups. No free rides for those who conspire to commit or coverup. No exceptions for the wealthy and famous. No exceptions for the well-intentioned.

s_lone

#28

RE: It's time to bring the death penalty back!

Jul 16th, 2006

If you are a christian, there's no way you can justify death penalty. If you are a christian, I am very curious to know about your logic.

Simpleton

#29

Re: RE: It's time to bring the death penalty back!

Jul 16th, 2006

Quote: Originally Posted by s_lone

If you are a christian, there's no way you can justify death penalty. If you are a christian, I am very curious to know about your logic.

My logic is simple: I am a victim of crime!

I have had to sit idly by and watch the perpetrators laugh at me. I have been condemned to the indigantion of having to face a broken and irresponsible justice system. My logic is derived from my having witnessed just how corrupt the system is.

When you're in my shoes, or the shoes of any person victimized by crime and the justice system, the death penalty becomes most attractive. So attractive in fact, that every other form of punishment pales in comparison.

When you are victimized by crime, and punished for seeking justice, when the justice system intended to protect you, works against you, you will understand my logic. I am sickened by the way our justice system persecutes the victims and celebrates the scum that commit the crimes. There is no punishment more fitting for these assholes, than death!

shannon

#30

Re: RE: It's time to bring the death penalty back!

Jul 16th, 2006

Quote: Originally Posted by Simpleton

Quote: Originally Posted by s_lone
If you are a christian, there's no way you can justify death penalty. If you are a christian, I am very curious to know about your logic.
My logic is simple: I am a victim of crime!

I have had to sit idly by and watch the perpetrators laugh at me. I have been condemned to the indigantion of having to face a broken and irresponsible justice system. My logic is derived from my having witnessed just how corrupt the system is.

When you're in my shoes, or the shoes of any person victimized by crime and the justice system, the death penalty becomes most attractive. So attractive in fact, that every other form of punishment pales in comparison.

When you are victimized by crime, and punished for seeking justice, when the justice system intended to protect you, works against you, you will understand my logic. I am sickened by the way our justice system persecutes the victims and celebrates the scum that commit the crimes. There is no punishment more fitting for these assholes, than death!

Absolutely. We need to get back to a justice system where we're punishing the criminal, not the victim.

The way things are now, the criminal has more rights than us law abiding folks.

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