Super Genius
Posts: 1,188 
July 4th, 2006, 07:46 PM
Alberta Premier Ralph Klein is considering giving Albertans another round of "Ralph Bucks". Klein said he wants to at least consider giving some of the province's wealth back to Albertans. In January, the Alberta government sent $400 cheques to every person in the province. The program costed $1.4 billion. Last week, Alberta Finance Minister Shirley McClellan revealed a $8.7 billion budget surplus. Most of the money has already been commited, but there is still $2.7 billion left over. Conservative MLAs will discuss the issue at a meeting in Calgary on Monday, where ministers will be bringing forward proposals for the money. But the "Ralph Bucks" are not popular with the opposition. Liberal leader Kevin Taft is against the idea of another round of cheques. "The $1.4 billion we spent on that could have gone a significant way to permanently taking a bite out of poverty in this province." Taft told reporters. Several candidates who are seeking for Klein's job as Conservative leader have also rejected the idea of more prosperity cheques. Klein said there are many factors to consider before any money is handed out.
Check it out at CBC News: http://www.cbc.ca/canada/edmonton/st...e-cheques.html
My Two Cents
I don't think Ralph Klein should be handing out another round of prosperity cheques. Instead he should put it towards new program spending, use it to reduce poverty, and give out some tax cuts.
Alberta Premier Ralph Klein is considering giving Albertans another round of "Ralph Bucks". Klein said he wants to at least consider giving some of the province's wealth back to Albertans. In January, the Alberta government sent $400 cheques to every person in the province. The program costed $1.4 billion. Last week, Alberta Finance Minister Shirley McClellan revealed a $8.7 billion budget surplus. Most of the money has already been commited, but there is still $2.7 billion left over. Conservative MLAs will discuss the issue at a meeting in Calgary on Monday, where ministers will be bringing forward proposals for the money. But the "Ralph Bucks" are not popular with the opposition. Liberal leader Kevin Taft is against the idea of another round of cheques. "The $1.4 billion we spent on that could have gone a significant way to permanently taking a bite out of poverty in this province." Taft told reporters. Several candidates who are seeking for Klein's job as Conservative leader have also rejected the idea of more prosperity cheques. Klein said there are many factors to consider before any money is handed out.
Check it out at CBC News: http://www.cbc.ca/canada/edmonton/st...e-cheques.html
My Two Cents
I don't think Ralph Klein should be handing out another round of prosperity cheques. Instead he should put it towards new program spending, use it to reduce poverty, and give out some tax cuts.
Bright Spark
Posts: 313
July 4th, 2006, 08:00 PM
I'd take the 8.7 billion surplus and divide it among Albertans and send everyone a $2500 cheque. Alberta is already spending more per capita than other provinces. Over 3 billion more dollars in the toilet this year. Governments are great at wasting OUR money.
Every special interest group is out crying and whining for more millions and billions. It's amazing how all the folks in the rest of Canada aren't illiterate and dead because of the amounts those provincial governments spend per capita on health, education, etc.
"The highest per capita spending on health among the provinces in 2005–2006 is projected to be in Alberta ($3,29
, Newfoundland and Labrador ($3,184) and Manitoba ($3,12, while the lowest is forecasted in Quebec ($2,449), Prince Edward Island ($2,682) and New Brunswick ($2,847)."
Not only is Alberta the highest but we should be the lowest. We have the youngest population and the younger the population, the less patients (as % of population) using the health care system each year. We spend 28% more per patient interaction than the national average.
I'd take the 8.7 billion surplus and divide it among Albertans and send everyone a $2500 cheque. Alberta is already spending more per capita than other provinces. Over 3 billion more dollars in the toilet this year. Governments are great at wasting OUR money.
Every special interest group is out crying and whining for more millions and billions. It's amazing how all the folks in the rest of Canada aren't illiterate and dead because of the amounts those provincial governments spend per capita on health, education, etc.
"The highest per capita spending on health among the provinces in 2005–2006 is projected to be in Alberta ($3,29
, Newfoundland and Labrador ($3,184) and Manitoba ($3,12, while the lowest is forecasted in Quebec ($2,449), Prince Edward Island ($2,682) and New Brunswick ($2,847)."Not only is Alberta the highest but we should be the lowest. We have the youngest population and the younger the population, the less patients (as % of population) using the health care system each year. We spend 28% more per patient interaction than the national average.
Super Genius
Posts: 1,188
July 4th, 2006, 08:03 PM
That's stupid. Why would you spend the entire surplus on "Ralph Bucks"? Just because Alberta spends more money per capita, doesn't mean that its enough. Let's take transportation for example. Have you been on the Deerfoot Trail? There are so many bumps in that damn highway that my ass hurts.
That's stupid. Why would you spend the entire surplus on "Ralph Bucks"? Just because Alberta spends more money per capita, doesn't mean that its enough. Let's take transportation for example. Have you been on the Deerfoot Trail? There are so many bumps in that damn highway that my ass hurts.
Bright Spark
Posts: 313
July 4th, 2006, 08:10 PM
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You need toget off that lazy ass and get a job that pays enough so you can buy a car with a good suspension. Alberta roads and hiways are gold-plated quality next to anywhere else in Canada. There's back alleys in Calgary that are better maintained than roads in Saskatchewan.
That's stupid. Why would you spend the entire surplus on "Ralph Bucks"? Just because Alberta spends more money per capita, doesn't mean that its enough. Let's take transportation for example. Have you been on the Deerfoot Trail? There are so many bumps in that damn highway that my ass hurts.
Super Genius
Posts: 1,188
July 4th, 2006, 08:15 PM
Yes, if I remember correctly the roads in Saskatchewan were pretty bumpy. But the roads in Alberta aren't all that great either. The only parts of the Deerfoot that are nice are the newer parts.
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You need toget off that lazy ass and get a job that pays enough so you can buy a car with a good suspension. Alberta roads and hiways are gold-plated quality next to anywhere else in Canada. There's back alleys in Calgary that are better maintained than roads in Saskatchewan.
Yes, if I remember correctly the roads in Saskatchewan were pretty bumpy. But the roads in Alberta aren't all that great either. The only parts of the Deerfoot that are nice are the newer parts.
Super Genius
Posts: 1,239
Location: Edmonton
Location: Edmonton
July 5th, 2006, 01:08 AM
That said, more free cash from the man? On that note, we cue the music:
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(What movie is that from? Anyone? Bueller?)
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Yes, if I remember correctly the roads in Saskatchewan were pretty bumpy. But the roads in Alberta aren't all that great either. The only parts of the Deerfoot that are nice are the newer parts.
The deerfoot is a Municiple issue, not a Provincial one. Quoting
You need toget off that lazy ass and get a job that pays enough so you can buy a car with a good suspension. Alberta roads and hiways are gold-plated quality next to anywhere else in Canada. There's back alleys in Calgary that are better maintained than roads in Saskatchewan.
Yes, if I remember correctly the roads in Saskatchewan were pretty bumpy. But the roads in Alberta aren't all that great either. The only parts of the Deerfoot that are nice are the newer parts.
That said, more free cash from the man? On that note, we cue the music:
Ma ma ma
Mem memmem mem memmem
Ma ma ma
Mehmeh
Ma ma ma
Ma mehmem meh meh meh memmem mem
(What movie is that from? Anyone? Bueller?)
Clever Clogs
Posts: 583
Location: Calgary, Alberta
Location: Calgary, Alberta
July 5th, 2006, 03:02 AM
Mogz, Deerfoot actually the Province's responsibility because it is a highway that happens to pass through Calgary. Either way its a non-issue; Deerfoot Trail has brand new pavement almost the entire stretch.
What the Province really needs to do is address the infrastructure deficits. A balanced provincial budget is all well and good, but if all of the education and health boards are in the red, the province is still in debt. Calgary alone needs over five hundred million dollars in maintenence done on our schools. They are literally falling apart.
Prosperity cheques? Sure, why not. The wife and I are going to need some tuition money come this fall.
Mogz, Deerfoot actually the Province's responsibility because it is a highway that happens to pass through Calgary. Either way its a non-issue; Deerfoot Trail has brand new pavement almost the entire stretch.
What the Province really needs to do is address the infrastructure deficits. A balanced provincial budget is all well and good, but if all of the education and health boards are in the red, the province is still in debt. Calgary alone needs over five hundred million dollars in maintenence done on our schools. They are literally falling apart.
Prosperity cheques? Sure, why not. The wife and I are going to need some tuition money come this fall.
Clever Clogs
Posts: 583
Location: Calgary, Alberta
Location: Calgary, Alberta
July 5th, 2006, 03:04 AM
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I work thirty hours a week and go to school full time. I drive an '89 Accord that doesn't like bumps. **** you. Not everyone that's poor is that way because they're lazy.
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You need toget off that lazy ass and get a job that pays enough so you can buy a car with a good suspension. Alberta roads and hiways are gold-plated quality next to anywhere else in Canada. There's back alleys in Calgary that are better maintained than roads in Saskatchewan.
That's stupid. Why would you spend the entire surplus on "Ralph Bucks"? Just because Alberta spends more money per capita, doesn't mean that its enough. Let's take transportation for example. Have you been on the Deerfoot Trail? There are so many bumps in that damn highway that my ass hurts.
Super Genius
Posts: 1,239
Location: Edmonton
Location: Edmonton
July 5th, 2006, 04:58 PM
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I stand corrected then. Thanks LRG.
Mogz, Deerfoot actually the Province's responsibility because it is a highway that happens to pass through Calgary. Either way its a non-issue; Deerfoot Trail has brand new pavement almost the entire stretch.
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No ****. When I was in college I was dirt ****ing poor. I couldn't even afford a bus pass, let alone a car. Now that i've got a decent job, i'm still pressed for cash. I'm actually above the poverty line, but that "line" doesn't take in to account; stundent loans, VISA, Amex, rent, food, cay payments, insurance (for a 23 year old male), and all the joys of having a shopoholic girlfriend. Don't get me wrong, i'm not poor, not by a long shot now, but I was during college, and i'm not exactly rich now. There are guys I went to highschool/college with, that are making 3 times the salary I make. Does it suck? Yeah, I would love to be making 90k a year, however my job will never pay that much. Being poor IS a state of mind. Am I poor? No. Am I as financially limber as a piece of cement? Yes.
I work thirty hours a week and go to school full time. I drive an '89 Accord that doesn't like bumps. *censored* you. Not everyone that's poor is that way because they're lazy.
Super Genius
Posts: 1,239
Location: Edmonton
Location: Edmonton
July 5th, 2006, 05:32 PM
You, being 16 (and apparently as worldly as me according to you) perhaps aren't aware of what it costs to live on your own. I have:
Student loans
A line of credit (thanks to my college years)
Rent
Bills (various ones)
Two cars (i'm carrying my girlfriend right now)
Insurance (for two cars)
Food
Gas (which gets expensive considering I do an hour commute each day)
Those all add up Jon. There are also other little financial obstacles that creep up each month that eat in to my salary. Am I poor? Not at all. Am I financially flexible? Not as much as i'd like. That said, you don't need to know how much my salary is.
You, being 16 (and apparently as worldly as me according to you) perhaps aren't aware of what it costs to live on your own. I have:
Student loans
A line of credit (thanks to my college years)
Rent
Bills (various ones)
Two cars (i'm carrying my girlfriend right now)
Insurance (for two cars)
Food
Gas (which gets expensive considering I do an hour commute each day)
Those all add up Jon. There are also other little financial obstacles that creep up each month that eat in to my salary. Am I poor? Not at all. Am I financially flexible? Not as much as i'd like. That said, you don't need to know how much my salary is.
Knows Too Much
Posts: 2,004
Location: Proud to be in Alberta
Location: Proud to be in Alberta
July 6th, 2006, 10:15 PM
Bring on the cheques. Anytime any government of any stripe wants to give money back to the people, I am for it. Every little bit helps, just ask the retailers when we got the first round of Ralphbucks. They had record months, and perhaps more importantly, they were able to keep more staff employed during that time than they normally would. Give money to the people and it will end up in the economy, which means jobs, which means wages..........you get the idea.
Now, however, I would say keep the Ralphbucks if the health care premiums were eliminated. The only bad part of that is that low income people would not be affected as they either pay a reduced rate or nothing at all, depending upon annual income. Either way, I would be happy. The extra money would be really nice just before Christmas, and would again provide a big boost to the economy.
Bring on the cheques. Anytime any government of any stripe wants to give money back to the people, I am for it. Every little bit helps, just ask the retailers when we got the first round of Ralphbucks. They had record months, and perhaps more importantly, they were able to keep more staff employed during that time than they normally would. Give money to the people and it will end up in the economy, which means jobs, which means wages..........you get the idea.
Now, however, I would say keep the Ralphbucks if the health care premiums were eliminated. The only bad part of that is that low income people would not be affected as they either pay a reduced rate or nothing at all, depending upon annual income. Either way, I would be happy. The extra money would be really nice just before Christmas, and would again provide a big boost to the economy.
Bright Spark
Posts: 324
Location: calgary,ab
Location: calgary,ab
July 8th, 2006, 04:01 PM
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Well, they are paving it as we speak.
That's stupid. Why would you spend the entire surplus on "Ralph Bucks"? Just because Alberta spends more money per capita, doesn't mean that its enough. Let's take transportation for example. Have you been on the Deerfoot Trail? There are so many bumps in that damn highway that my ass hurts.
That's actually not that much especially in Calgary today. The average price of a house is $350 000.
