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Location: Independent Palestine
Location: Independent Palestine
June 20th, 2006, 11:18 AM
OTTAWA -- Trade Minister David Emerson says it's unlikely there will be a final softwood deal with the United States before Parliament breaks this week.
He said negotiations on a tentative agreement will likely continue through the summer recess.
"Candidly, it's a little doubtful right now,'' Emerson said after meeting his provincial counterparts.
"We're very close -- I'm very optimistic that we're going to get a deal done. We will continue to work throughout the summer, if necessary.''
There have been growing signs the much-celebrated agreement is coming unravelled.
Nearly two months after Prime Minister Stephen Harper stood in Parliament and trumpeted an agreement, the countries remain far apart over several key details.
They missed a deadline last week to agree on a legal text for the seven-year deal that would replace U.S. duties on Canadian lumber with a Canadian export tax or quota on shipments.
Sources say the sides cannot agree on details of a quota system and a dispute-resolution mechanism, and also disagree on B.C.'s market-based timber-pricing reforms.
Those differences all but rule out a resolution before the summer parliamentary recess.
That means Harper faces the politically irksome prospect of heading to Washington in two weeks without a coveted deal in hand.
The prime minister had touted the softwood deal as proof that his good relationship with U.S. President George W. Bush had borne fruit for Canadians.
The latest setback could leave Harper with no successes to point to when he heads south for a meeting with a president who is deeply unpopular in Canada.
The softwood dispute has ranked alongside the Iraq war and the missile-defence project as among the worst political irritants between Canada and the U.S.
Emerson downplayed the importance of getting a deal before Harper's visit to Washington.
"It's not a deadline I'm working to,'' Emerson said.
"My interest -- and I think the government of Canada's interest -- is in getting a deal in place that meets the needs of Canadian industry.''
"It is not driven by the prime minister-presidential visit.''
The tentative deal came four years after the U.S. government began imposing duties totalling more than 27 per cent on some Canadian lumber.
Successive reviews lowered the rate to 11 per cent, but Canadian companies have paid more than $5 billion US -- most of which they would get back under the proposed deal.
The U.S. government has ignored several rulings by a NAFTA panel that the duties are illegal. The Americans pointed instead to its victories at the World Trade Organization.
http://www.canada.com/vancouversun/n...7560dca&k=9365
OTTAWA -- Trade Minister David Emerson says it's unlikely there will be a final softwood deal with the United States before Parliament breaks this week.
He said negotiations on a tentative agreement will likely continue through the summer recess.
"Candidly, it's a little doubtful right now,'' Emerson said after meeting his provincial counterparts.
"We're very close -- I'm very optimistic that we're going to get a deal done. We will continue to work throughout the summer, if necessary.''
There have been growing signs the much-celebrated agreement is coming unravelled.
Nearly two months after Prime Minister Stephen Harper stood in Parliament and trumpeted an agreement, the countries remain far apart over several key details.
They missed a deadline last week to agree on a legal text for the seven-year deal that would replace U.S. duties on Canadian lumber with a Canadian export tax or quota on shipments.
Sources say the sides cannot agree on details of a quota system and a dispute-resolution mechanism, and also disagree on B.C.'s market-based timber-pricing reforms.
Those differences all but rule out a resolution before the summer parliamentary recess.
That means Harper faces the politically irksome prospect of heading to Washington in two weeks without a coveted deal in hand.
The prime minister had touted the softwood deal as proof that his good relationship with U.S. President George W. Bush had borne fruit for Canadians.
The latest setback could leave Harper with no successes to point to when he heads south for a meeting with a president who is deeply unpopular in Canada.
The softwood dispute has ranked alongside the Iraq war and the missile-defence project as among the worst political irritants between Canada and the U.S.
Emerson downplayed the importance of getting a deal before Harper's visit to Washington.
"It's not a deadline I'm working to,'' Emerson said.
"My interest -- and I think the government of Canada's interest -- is in getting a deal in place that meets the needs of Canadian industry.''
"It is not driven by the prime minister-presidential visit.''
The tentative deal came four years after the U.S. government began imposing duties totalling more than 27 per cent on some Canadian lumber.
Successive reviews lowered the rate to 11 per cent, but Canadian companies have paid more than $5 billion US -- most of which they would get back under the proposed deal.
The U.S. government has ignored several rulings by a NAFTA panel that the duties are illegal. The Americans pointed instead to its victories at the World Trade Organization.
http://www.canada.com/vancouversun/n...7560dca&k=9365
Stuck in Ontario...bah
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Location: Petawawa Ontario
Location: Petawawa Ontario
June 20th, 2006, 12:30 PM
Having some family members that run softwood lumber and hard wood lots and so on, They are saying as long as they get rid of the duties imposed by the states they will be happy, anything else is a bonus.
But it would be nice to get it sooner than later i would think.
Having some family members that run softwood lumber and hard wood lots and so on, They are saying as long as they get rid of the duties imposed by the states they will be happy, anything else is a bonus.
But it would be nice to get it sooner than later i would think.
Knows Too Much
Posts: 2,004
Location: Proud to be in Alberta
Location: Proud to be in Alberta
June 20th, 2006, 05:44 PM
I don't profess to know much about the details of this, but if you listen to the bitching in the US, it would seem that this MUST be a good deal for Canada, no?
I think it will get done, but if it takes a while longer to get it done right, then take a little longer. At least this issue is moving forward.
I don't profess to know much about the details of this, but if you listen to the bitching in the US, it would seem that this MUST be a good deal for Canada, no?
I think it will get done, but if it takes a while longer to get it done right, then take a little longer. At least this issue is moving forward.
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Posts: 60
Location: TORONTO
Location: TORONTO
June 20th, 2006, 11:05 PM
Its not the best deal, but many people are accepting it because its a solution that no other government could find a deal to seal the issue off. I mean in all fairness, they should have given us back every penny they took unfairly, but its all in the compromise. I dont think that Emerson is the best person for the job, but hes bringing a deal to the table. However, I dont want to speak too soon because I really hope this deal doesnt fail like the last one under Pettigrew.
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I don't profess to know much about the details of this, but if you listen to the bitching in the US, it would seem that this MUST be a good deal for Canada, no?
I think it will get done, but if it takes a while longer to get it done right, then take a little longer. At least this issue is moving forward.
I think it will get done, but if it takes a while longer to get it done right, then take a little longer. At least this issue is moving forward.
Its not the best deal, but many people are accepting it because its a solution that no other government could find a deal to seal the issue off. I mean in all fairness, they should have given us back every penny they took unfairly, but its all in the compromise. I dont think that Emerson is the best person for the job, but hes bringing a deal to the table. However, I dont want to speak too soon because I really hope this deal doesnt fail like the last one under Pettigrew.
