Soldier family doesn't get benefits

Jersay

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Family of Canadian soldier in Afghanistan not getting death benefit after all
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at 15:26 on June 18, 2006, EST.
By DEAN BEEBY

OTTAWA (CP) - The family of a Canadian soldier killed in Afghanistan won't be getting a generous cash settlement from the government after all.

Media reports last month said relatives of Pte. Braun Scott Woodfield, who died in a military vehicle accident in November, would be sharing a $250,000 tax-free payment specially authorized by cabinet to compensate for his death while on duty.

At the time, a family member said the money was welcome and that they "appreciate the thought."

But records released under the Access to Information Act indicate Woodfield's family was excluded from the cabinet order, which gave a total of $1 million to four other families grieving over military deaths.

That order was made on April 6, after Veterans Affairs Minister Greg Thompson persuaded his cabinet colleagues to dole out the cash as "ex gratia" payments - that is, as gifts or favours made out of compassion rather than because of any legal requirement.

The payments were made to the families of soldiers who died between May 13, 2005, and March 31, 2006, a period that placed them in a legal and administrative limbo.

That's because Canada's new Veterans Charter, which for the first time provides a non-taxable $250,000 death benefit, was passed by Parliament on May 13 last year but didn't come into effect until April 1 this year. Deaths that occurred in the interim were not covered by the charter.

Thompson called cabinet's unpublicized decision a "heartwarming" gesture.

But Woodfield's family will not get a red cent because under the Veterans Charter, only "survivors" can receive the $250,000 death benefit. And because survivors are defined only as dependent children, spouses or common-law partners, Woodfield - as a single man with no children - had no "survivors" to receive any cash.

Instead, the cabinet order provided the money to the surviving spouses, common-law partners and children of three men killed in Afghanistan, as well as to the two daughters of Warrant Officer Charles Sheppard, who died in a parachuting accident at Trenton, Ont., on Oct. 3, 2005.

"Pte. Woodfield is not eligible because he does not have a survivor or any dependent children," Veterans Affairs spokeswoman Pamela Price confirmed in an interview.

She blamed the confusion on a reporter who "guessed wrong" about who might be eligible for the ex gratia payments.

Woodfield's mother said the Veterans Charter policy should be changed to help the next-of-kin of unattached soliders.

"In a sense, you felt that my son was less of a person, as a single person," Beverley Woodfield of Cow Bay, N.S., said in an interview.

Braun Woodfield, 24, sometimes financially supported his sister Lyndi, buying her a laptop for university, for example, she noted.

The simpler social world of 50 years ago has changed dramatically, and soldiers now may have complex obligations beyond spouses and children, she said.

"I'd like to see a universal entitlement of the benefits, and let the member decide where the benefits should go," said Woodfield.

The death benefit under the Veterans Charter is unsual because of its restriction to so-called "survivors," since single soldiers with no children have long been unconditionally eligible for almost all other death benefits provided by the military.

For example, the Canadian Forces pays for the funerals and burials of all serving members killed on duty, as it did for Woodfield.

National Defence spokesman John Knoll said the Forces also pay supplementary death benefits - two years of salary, tax-free - to the estate of the member or to his or her designated beneficiary. The military will also provide severance pay to the estate or designated beneficiary, seven days' pay for each year of service.

And any pension entitlements that had been accrued by deceased members go to a designated beneficiary or the estate if there is no spouse, common-law partner or children, he said.

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Well if it has been going on for 50 years if i read correctly then it should be followed. However it sucks big time because if something happens to me, my family wouldn't get any money as well.

And that poor family expecting some money and money and probably getting zippo. Sad.
 

Mogz

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Well if it has been going on for 50 years if i read correctly then it should be followed. However it sucks big time because if something happens to me, my family wouldn't get any money as well.

And that poor family expecting some money and money and probably getting zippo. Sad.

That's not true Jersay, his family WILL get money, just not nearly as much. When you enlist in the Army, you apply for a Supplementary Death Benefit and Military Life Insurance through SISP. When a soldier is kiled and/or dies, his family (unless otherwise decided) receives his life insurance. If I kick the bucket tomorrow, my parents automatically receive $100,000 tax free. The SDB was brought in to help surviving family members cope with the financial ramifications of losing a provider. It's highly unlikely that Woodfields parents were counting on his paychecks to survive. However if he had a wife and/or kids, it'd be extremely likely that losing him as a provider would hurt the family, hence why the SDB was for them. It sucks in the grand scheme of things, but there is reason to the madness if you look at it from the right angle.
 

tracy

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Like Mogz, I see the rationale in limiting survivors to spouses and children. I don't think it makes him any less of a person.
 

GreenGreta

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I think the rule is fair, if there is already insurance that could be made payable to the parent, 100k, that's enough. The soldier chose his career knowing the risks involved. If theres a benefit designed for the soldiers wife and children, then it should only be for those specific soldiers. Sorry the rules suck, but if there was no rule, then some others soldier's wife and child would be left with nothing. I would rather this rule than the alternative.

fixed boo boo.
 

Jersay

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I think the rule is fair, if there is already insurance that could be made payable to the parent, 100k, that's enough. The soldier chose his career knowing the risks involved. If theres a benefit designed for the soldiers wife and children, then it should only be for those specific soldiers. Sorry the rules suck, but if there was no rule, then some others soldier's wife and child would be left with nothing. I would rather this rule than the alternative.

The man

That's kind of a sad comment about the last alternative.
 

Mogz

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The monetary payout upon the death of an un-married and childless soldier is dependant on how much the soldier forks over in to life insurance each month. I make a monthly premium payment that results in my parents get $100,000 upon my death. I think I pay out like less than $4 a month for that package. Regardless, I do believe soldiers can take out policies with a payout of over $500,000, but it's up to the individual. There are even those who don't have a policy, they're fools in my opinion given the nature of our work, but it's their choice, not mine. When a soldier goes down overseas, provided he was on the ball, his family will be fine.