This is in response to the article Sorry Mr. Prime Minister, Afghanistan is not our war:http://www.canadiancontent.net/commtr/article_807.html
It always disheartens me to hear people speak words such as those in this article. As if we are somehow isolated from the world and that we do not have a duty to at least try and defend not only our way of life, but lives of those not so fortunate. To believe that we are living in some world of mystical ideals, where the bad guys play by the rules and the good guys need only ask politely for the bad guys to give themselves up. It is, quite frankly, blissfully ignorant suicide.
I am with the P.M., as well as many other MPs, both liberals and conservatives (although no NDP), that do not really understand "Canadians who feel ardently that their country's soldiers should not be involved in Afghanistan."
Ducking under the covers never solves anything, if you don't think there is a problem to be solved maybe you should open your eyes. It is a far more prominent problem with far more evidence than human caused global warming.
I love this quote
First, CIA fraud, on the aljazeera media network, REALLY!! I have some little green men from another planet to tell you about. Where is your proof that the CIA would have had anything to do with any of the post-invasion recordings?? And why in Gods name would the terrorists go along with this whole CIA scam if it bettered there position to have bin Laden dead????? Hell, don't you think they would lie about it. Talk about your ill-thought through theories, it doesn't even make sense for the CIA to fake that he is alive.
Next, how is this even a question never mind beyond question. Are you really trying to say that there were less terrorist cells before the US and Brittan quashed al Qaeda than there are now. Or less groups of oppressive regimes in Iraq. Really, you've got to be kidding me.
No, you're right, what makes it our war is
1.) Afghanistan was a safe haven for terrorist cells, and is still a place where extremists congregate. Which makes the whole world an unsafe place.
2.) They attacked our allies and in my books that is akin to attacking us. I would always stick up for a friend if someone was attacking him or her, and if you wouldn't than you are completely dishonorable.
3.) Lives of young people would be lost in far greater numbers if our troops were not there keeping the peace. Even if keeping the peace sometimes looks the same as war.
There has been much consultation and debate among those whose heads it is on to make these decisions. Do not believe for a second this task was taken upon with-out ample consideration for the consequences.
Don't make blind arguments such as:
I for one support our troops in Afghanistan and I support the cause for which they are fighting and regretfully dying.
I am proud to say I support Canada and our democracy and realize that sometimes to protect the things we truly hold dear, sacrifices must be made, and that includes death.
You could not make such a statement believing what is stated in that article. And that is why I feel disheartened by those words.
Graeme O'Brien : www.ourtake.net
It always disheartens me to hear people speak words such as those in this article. As if we are somehow isolated from the world and that we do not have a duty to at least try and defend not only our way of life, but lives of those not so fortunate. To believe that we are living in some world of mystical ideals, where the bad guys play by the rules and the good guys need only ask politely for the bad guys to give themselves up. It is, quite frankly, blissfully ignorant suicide.
I am with the P.M., as well as many other MPs, both liberals and conservatives (although no NDP), that do not really understand "Canadians who feel ardently that their country's soldiers should not be involved in Afghanistan."
Ducking under the covers never solves anything, if you don't think there is a problem to be solved maybe you should open your eyes. It is a far more prominent problem with far more evidence than human caused global warming.
I love this quote
John Chuckman said:"unless you believe one reference in a recording of bin Laden mentioning Canada along with other countries. That recording, along with other post-invasion recordings, was almost certainly a CIA fraud, for Osama bin Laden had to be killed in the heavy bombing of his mountain redoubt."
First, CIA fraud, on the aljazeera media network, REALLY!! I have some little green men from another planet to tell you about. Where is your proof that the CIA would have had anything to do with any of the post-invasion recordings?? And why in Gods name would the terrorists go along with this whole CIA scam if it bettered there position to have bin Laden dead????? Hell, don't you think they would lie about it. Talk about your ill-thought through theories, it doesn't even make sense for the CIA to fake that he is alive.
John Chuckman said:"
Even if you do not believe that bin Laden is dead, what is beyond question is that American activities in Afghanistan and Iraq are building a vast reservoir of resentments and a training school for future terrorists. "
Next, how is this even a question never mind beyond question. Are you really trying to say that there were less terrorist cells before the US and Brittan quashed al Qaeda than there are now. Or less groups of oppressive regimes in Iraq. Really, you've got to be kidding me.
John Chuckman said:The previous government's making an under-the-table deal with Bush to place Canadian troops in Afghanistan surely does not make it our war.
No, you're right, what makes it our war is
1.) Afghanistan was a safe haven for terrorist cells, and is still a place where extremists congregate. Which makes the whole world an unsafe place.
2.) They attacked our allies and in my books that is akin to attacking us. I would always stick up for a friend if someone was attacking him or her, and if you wouldn't than you are completely dishonorable.
3.) Lives of young people would be lost in far greater numbers if our troops were not there keeping the peace. Even if keeping the peace sometimes looks the same as war.
John Chuckman said:Yet no greater vice to democracy can exist than a government's committing the lives of young people and the whole nation's reputation to war without any consultation or debate.
There has been much consultation and debate among those whose heads it is on to make these decisions. Do not believe for a second this task was taken upon with-out ample consideration for the consequences.
Don't make blind arguments such as:
Where is your proof or for that matter any substantial argument. You know you really sound like an NDP supporter Mr. Joe Comartin, I mean John Chuckman. It is not the place of the people or the house to Vote on everything, especially on decisions which must be made as quickly and decisively as possible. Many things require a leader to command and not to ask. Democracy decides who that leader will be.John Chuckman said:If you believe in democratic values, as you claim, you cannot support such behavior.
I for one support our troops in Afghanistan and I support the cause for which they are fighting and regretfully dying.
I am proud to say I support Canada and our democracy and realize that sometimes to protect the things we truly hold dear, sacrifices must be made, and that includes death.
You could not make such a statement believing what is stated in that article. And that is why I feel disheartened by those words.
Graeme O'Brien : www.ourtake.net