CUPE Ontario supports campaign against Israel

[Karlin]

http://tinyurl.com/mp3aq


Isreal has been a focus of global attention for a long time. Due to the holocaust and longtime persecution of Jews, we have been afraid to critisize them.

That doesn't mean they have allways been justified in their actions, esp. against Palestine. There are no easy one-liners that clarify the situation, but we hear them a lot.

Now the CUPE group in Ontario is taking a stand that Isreal has to be fair to Palestine, or the conscience of the CUPE group will not allow them to trade with Isreal. Boycott, sanctions, in response to the heavy hand Isreal has used against Palestine.

This is yet another issue where Canadians are squarely against the views of American government policy in foriegn nations. The American bully approach has been used in Isreal, as they have the USA totall support for their inhumane actions towards Palestine.

Maybe we should boycott Palestine too, for their role in the Isreal violence, but as yet they have not been allowed to form a real government with a taxable land base and population. Until Palestine is an actual nation with real borders, and until they are the prime aggressors, the focus should remain on Isreal's crimes, with a stern admonishment of Palestinian violence.

I , for one, am proud to see CUPE taking such a bold stance. Lets hope they are very carefull to avoid any signs of being anti-Jewish.

Karlin

 

[Jay]

The best way to deal with people like this is privatisation....stop the flow of taxpayer money to these people.

Anywho.....

http://www.shoebat.com/palestinian_justice.php

Thats what they support.

LCBO contract stuff...

http://www.opseu.org/lbed/Comparison.pdf

Note the $20/hr to work in the warehouse....no wonder the CUPE has all sorts of money to play politics with.

 

[Karlin]

Re: RE: CUPE Ontario supports campaign against Israel

The best way to deal with people like this is privatisation....stop the flow of taxpayer money to these people.

Anywho.....

http://www.shoebat.com/palestinian_justice.php

Thats what they support.

LCBO contract stuff...

http://www.opseu.org/lbed/Comparison.pdf

Note the $20/hr to work in the warehouse....no wonder the CUPE has all sorts of money to play politics with.

Well I will just asume you agree that Palestine has been unfairly persecuted by Israel, judging by your lack of response to the issue.
Ok, so I know you are not feeling any sympathy for the Pals, but I had to try some sarcasm, its fun.

Link #1 - one liners?? - a photo of a specific incident that could have been either Jewish or Palestinian caused, we've seen both sides do this kind of thing, be it from a backpack with explosives or a tank with missles.

The second link was all contract details - whazzup?

So you will stand up and say that Palestine has no right to form a nation? Or what?

And what do you have against unions? Me too, I don't like them one bit, but It has NOTHING to do with the content of this thread.
When you say "the people who say this are idiots", you are not addressing what they said. Thats wrong my friend - what they said is what I am talking about, not WHO they are. See the diff? We can all learn stuff, this is your chance, and I won't think less of you if you do learn something... eh?

This is a typical TACTIC, just a mere distraction, used by people with no basis for their opinion. [when you point out WHO said it instead of WHAT they said. ]

Can we agree on that and move along now?
Love love love!!

Lets be friends, or at least be friendly, since we are not each other's enemy. Oh ya, I guess we are. See what happens?
Karlin

 

[Risus]

Lets face it, as long as there are Palestines on the planet, there will never be peace with Israel. Palestine is the problem, the suicide bombers are Palestinian, not Israeli.

CUPE leaders are a bunch of idiots. I bet that the CUPE membership don't folow this thought. Also this type of politics is not something that CUPE should be getting into. Think about it, what does it actually have to do with CUPE??

 

[bluealberta]

Re: RE: CUPE Ontario supports campaign against Israel

Lets face it, as long as there are Palestines on the planet, there will never be peace with Israel. Palestine is the problem, the suicide bombers are Palestinian, not Israeli.

CUPE leaders are a bunch of idiots. I bet that the CUPE membership don't folow this thought. Also this type of politics is not something that CUPE should be getting into. Think about it, what does it actually have to do with CUPE??

Nothing as usual. CUPE should pay more attention to its members and quit worrying about an issue that has been around for so many years, and no one has been able to solve.

IMO, until Palestine publicly and unequivically gives up its stated goal to push Israel into the sea, this issue will never go away. As stated, suicide bombers are not Israeli.

 

[Jay]

http://www.iht.com/articles/2006/05/29/news/britain.php

LONDON Britain's biggest association of teachers in higher education approved Monday a resolution urging its 67,000 members to consider boycotting Israeli academics who fail to renounce what it called Israel's "apartheid policies."

Coincidence?

 

[NaturalLemonFlavour]

Well, I think it is safe to say that the leadership of the Canadian Union of Public Employees is starting to lose their marbles. First the threats of a strike, because the lunch ladies in my cafeteria might be paid less in retirement than the policemen that may very well die serving on my streets. Now this.

Not only is CUPE calling for an end to this nonexistent "apartheid", they want Israel to allow a "right of return" for millions of Palistinians and their children, even though they voluntarily fled the country some sixty years ago! As anyone with so much as half a brain can tell you, this is suicide. Allowing this would mean that there are more Palistinians in Israel than there are Jews, and seeing as how the vast majority of Palistinians seem to want nothing more than to obliterate the entire Jewish nation...

Not only is CUPE's logic fatally flawed, but they seem to have forgotten their place. A few weeks ago, in Iran, police brutalized a group of protestors - who happened to protesting the imprisonment of some people that went on strike. Not a single word came from CUPE on this. So someone that supports CUPE in this, please do tell me: why are they boycotting the only country in the Middle East that protects workers rights? Why is Iran not being boycotted? Why is Israel not being supported? Why are workers rights being overlooked so that CUPE can pursue it's rabid anti-Semetic agenda?

This is dolled up anti-Semitism being perpetrated by a disgraceful union. Unfortunately, I'm losing faith in unions... first the seriously screwy Amalgamated Transit Workers go on some sort of impromptu wildcat strike... :roll:

 

[Finder]

Not that I'm on the extreme left or anything, but I've never been able to understand many union and (marxist) Socialist train of thought.

If you support Palestines right to self determination, what of Isreals right to determine sovereign policy directed towards a government elected by the people who do not respect the sovereignty of Isreal at all. I think picking a stance like this is total hypocrisy.