Harper has support to win majority
#6
RE: Harper has support to
May 23rd, 2006
Harper is an Idiot, time will tell the truth. So far the man is like a ham sandwich with out the ham. The perfect Bush suckall. He talks with both sides of his mouth. Now he will go to Sudan. To do nothing but pretend. Canada has many things wrong with in our country that need serious funding.
Liberal
#8
RE: Harper has support to win majority
May 23rd, 2006
I think not, I'm not contesting the fact that the Right Honourable Stephen Harper, P.C., M.P., the Member for Calgary Southwest and the Prime Minister of Canada, has a democratic mandate to govern. I would simply have preferred another outcome for the Thirty-ninth General Election.
Nonetheless, I take comfort in knowing that the Senate of Canada, as a memory-based institution, has the capacity to let the country "ease into" whatever changes may be forthcoming. The Senate can't stop the Commons, but they can look at things in-depth, and I think that switch-over governments are when the Senate does its best work.
Nonetheless, I take comfort in knowing that the Senate of Canada, as a memory-based institution, has the capacity to let the country "ease into" whatever changes may be forthcoming. The Senate can't stop the Commons, but they can look at things in-depth, and I think that switch-over governments are when the Senate does its best work.
#9
Re: Harper has support to win majority
May 23rd, 2006
I didn't think you were contesting anything, the Libs had a 13 year run, anybody that runs a country for so long needs a vacation, if nothing else to reflect, having the Conservatives in charge for a few won't kill anybody.
It may entice the fringe left to move to a galaxy far far away or New Zealand.
It may entice the fringe left to move to a galaxy far far away or New Zealand.
Liberal
#10
RE: Harper has support to win majority
May 23rd, 2006
I agree that the Liberal Party of Canada seriously needs to renew itself; which is why I am so happy that the party has decided to launch a Renewal Commission, to run parallel to their leadership convention.
#11
Re: Harper has support to win majority
May 23rd, 2006
This seems more than a rejection of the liberals. Any ideas why?
I wonder how this trend will impact on the view of the US?
I wonder how this trend will impact on the view of the US?
#12
Re: Harper has support to win majority
May 23rd, 2006Quote: Originally Posted by I think not
From August 1943 - June 1985 Ontario had conservatives running it. We are doing very well too! I didn't think you were contesting anything, the Libs had a 13 year run, anybody that runs a country for so long needs a vacation,
#13
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May 23rd, 2006Quote: Originally Posted by FiveParadox
I agree that the Liberal Party of Canada seriously needs to renew itself; which is why I am so happy that the party has decided to launch a Renewal Commission, to run parallel to their leadership convention.
FiveParadox, it won’t be long before the Liberal party will be the Government of the day here in Canada. The truth is the Tories through out the years have shown that they are not the sharpest knife in the drawer. The Liberals have shown charisma and under the Liberals Canada has always been a freer country.
#14
RE: Harper has support to win majority
May 23rd, 2006
Sure..but only because of a lack of a proper opposition party. Wait until Decemberish when the Liberal leadership race ends... than you will get more posturing and a more clear vision of what direction the Libs are going.... and that will galvanise the NDP by default as they try to argue they are the left. At that point, the Bloc will posture them selves further away from the PC's as their right wing monkeys..and than the poll will probably more accurately reflect...
#15
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May 23rd, 2006Quote: Originally Posted by Socrates the Greek
You mean like all that debt they racked up? You mean when they deported that guy back to Germany for something he said?Quote: Originally Posted by FiveParadoxI agree that the Liberal Party of Canada seriously needs to renew itself; which is why I am so happy that the party has decided to launch a Renewal Commission, to run parallel to their leadership convention.
FiveParadox, it won’t be long before the Liberal party will be the Government of the day here in Canada. The truth is the Tories through out the years have shown that they are not the sharpest knife in the drawer. The Liberals have shown charisma and under the Liberals Canada has always been a freer country.
I'm now completely convinced liberals don't have the foggiest idea what freedom is.
#16
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May 23rd, 2006Quote: Originally Posted by Jay
You think the deportation of Ernst Zundel was an injustice?...You mean when they deported that guy back to Germany for something he said?...
#17
Re: Harper has support to win majority
May 23rd, 2006Quote:
Thats a fairly positive breakthrough, actually I thought that the Liberals would still be in the lead in Ontario (considering Harpers focus on Quebec), but it look like Ontario is slowly warming up. Again the real test will come once the Liberals choose a leader.- Quebec
Voters in this province, traditionally a Liberal stronghold, are turning in droves to Harper's Conservatives as the strongest federalist force. The Liberals now have the support of just 14 per cent of voters and their vote is bleeding away to Harper. The Tories now command the support of 33 per cent of Quebec voters trailing the Bloc Quebecois (at 38 per cent, unchanged) by a narrow five-point margin.
- Ontario
The Liberals are also losing ground in this vote-rich province, where the Conservatives (at 42 per cent) now lead the Liberals (at 38 per cent) while NDP support has dropped to 11 per cent.
- British Columbia
The Tories have opened up a wide gap, where they have the support of 48 per cent of B.C. voters, compared to 26 per cent for the NDP and 20 per cent for the Liberals.
.....on another positive note, it look like the fringe left (NDP vote), seems to be losing ground!
#18
Re: Harper has support to win majority
May 23rd, 2006
i have a tough time swallowing those bc numbers, especially since the poll of 103 people in b.c. has a margin of error of 8.1%. but then again, the bc provincial liberals have been opening their lead, and that in hand might have helped the conservatives. but having nearly 50% of the bc vote, it seems a little inflated to me.
Republican
#19
RE: Harper has support to
May 23rd, 2006
Ernst Zundel was a conservative. That poll must have been conducted in a mental institute.
#20
Re: Harper has support to win majority
May 23rd, 2006Quote: Originally Posted by I think not
You would like to live all sorrounded by right wings? withouth left wing?I didn't think you were contesting anything, the Libs had a 13 year run, anybody that runs a country for so long needs a vacation, if nothing else to reflect, having the Conservatives in charge for a few won't kill anybody.
It may entice the fringe left to move to a galaxy far far away or New Zealand.
I agree that libs needed a vacation, that is a fact, but changing it for harper, is something that i dont get really much, but as you say, it is called democracy.
Conservative
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May 24th, 2006Quote: Originally Posted by darkbeaver
Actually, Beav, Ernst Zundel was a LIBERAL, he ran for the leadership of the party in 1968.Ernst Zundel was a conservative. That poll must have been conducted in a mental institute.
Of course, Zundel did not belong in the Liberal Party, any more than he would belong in the Conservative Party........
Edited to say.....
As for the Conservatives being in definite majority territory.....my little heart LEAPS with joy!
Conservative
#22
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May 24th, 2006Quote: Originally Posted by BitWhys
I think it was an injustice, and I loathe the very idea of Ernst Zundel.Quote: Originally Posted by JayYou think the deportation of Ernst Zundel was an injustice?...You mean when they deported that guy back to Germany for something he said?...
The problem is that Zundel believes his own crap, he was wanted in Germany simply for expressing those beliefs, and trying a man for his beliefs is thought control, pure and simple.
We don't want to go there.
#23
Re: Harper has support to win majority
May 24th, 2006
If only the polls didn't lie to us.. the only poll which matters is the one done on election night.
#24
RE: Harper has support to win majority
May 24th, 2006
The polls are bound to alter....particularly given the media response to harper's "news' conference yesterday...the majority of them walked out,leaving Harper with just a few media representatives.
No media coverage,no publicity.
Seems the reporters are upset with Harper's "list" of reporters from whom he will field questions..Harper says he is trying to bring a sense of order and decorum to press "scums".The reporters claim those who ask hard-hitting questions never make the "list".
No media coverage,no publicity.
Seems the reporters are upset with Harper's "list" of reporters from whom he will field questions..Harper says he is trying to bring a sense of order and decorum to press "scums".The reporters claim those who ask hard-hitting questions never make the "list".
#25
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May 24th, 2006Quote: Originally Posted by BitWhys
Yes I do.Quote: Originally Posted by JayYou think the deportation of Ernst Zundel was an injustice?...You mean when they deported that guy back to Germany for something he said?...
#26
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May 24th, 2006Quote: Originally Posted by darkbeaver
He ran for the Liberal party.Ernst Zundel was a conservative. That poll must have been conducted in a mental institute.
#27
Re: Harper has support to win majority
May 24th, 2006
By the sounds of things in here he would have been better off running for the Conservatives.
#29
RE: Harper has support to win majority
May 24th, 2006
now, conservatives got no alternative. Libilars are blamed. when everything is setled in LPC, things will change.
Conservative
#30
Re: Harper has support to win majority
May 24th, 2006Quote: Originally Posted by BitWhys
Why would you say that?By the sounds of things in here he would have been better off running for the Conservatives.
There is no mainstream party in Canada in which Zundel would belong............our political parties are all jammed into the centre of the political spectrum.
In fact, IMHO the Conservative party is actually less "on the fringe" than the NDP/BQ, as the Conservative Party supports a number of
"socially progressive" ideas.
Now, your veiled criticism of the Conservatives above would not be because (small "c") conservatives support freedom of speech........whether or not we agree.
It seems to me the left often support the right of people to agree with them, which is hardly freedom of speech.
Take Gwyn Morgan as a case in point......
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