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Quote: Originally Posted by the caracal kidok: harper is the ultimate tool to drive quebec out of canada (and that is not the only thing harpie would drive out). lets just run up a huge deficit on election promises, or perhaps he won't and has been "misleading" all you conns down the primrose path. Go look at the history of harper's positions on everything all the way back to his entry into politics.
First, how is he going to drive Quebec out of Canada? By treating Quebec as an equal province, no better and no worse? Gee, what a concept, equality between the regions. Second, if you think Harper is going to run up defecits, you are totally wrong. Thirdly, looking back at every party's position in the past will be the same. The Libs were going to Iraq, they supported missile defence, Martin and the Liberal party supported the traditional definition of marriage, etc. etc. etc.
Quote: secondly, canada's position in the world. we have a strong economy and a strong dollar. that is a big change from the days of the dollar being called the canadian peso. It is all a matter of perspective though. If one likes keeping their business subsidized by a weak dollar then a strong dollar is 'bad'. Just like good economics is bad.
The days of the Canadian Peso were during the Chretien years when Martin was the finance minister. Nuf said.
Quote: lastly, i am playing the "lessor of two evils" game with you. yes, even the lessor of two evils is evil, and that is why i don't choose either one of them! But being a realist, i would rather loose some money from my wallet than take it up the backside. Admit it, when it comes to the libs and cons it is a case of which way you prefer to take it. I am not proud of the political system at all. I want severe reform, the type of reform so radical in some politicians eyes they won't even talk to me openly about it. Playing the party game of reactionary voting just to get one out so another gets in is just plain stupid. And that is my OPINION of anybody that plays blindly to the current system as if it actually works.
I prefer the conservative method whereby I have the choice in how to spend my money, not leave it up to the "I know it all State" philosophy" of the Liberals AND THE NDP. Individuals should have the right to spend their money as they see fit, instead of sending massive amounts of tax money to the federal government to spend as THEY see fit. If you honestly think the federal Liberals know better how to spend YOUR money, go ahead and vote for them, because it takes any responsibility out of your hands. Personally, I prefer the conservative method, whereby money stays in my hands go spend as I see fit/
Quote: If you want a break, you won't get a decent one from the harper boys, unless you are looking for a break-up of canada. (and on that point a breakup might be a good thing because true change sometimes takes a real kick in the nuts to get going) I for one though am not desperate enough to give harper a chance to work his magic on everything else just to see the long term effects that would come long after he is gone for good.
You are right, true changes need a swift kick (read: Boston Tea Party). But the first thing that has to happen in this country, and something that is espoused by the conservatives, is for the federal government to get out of provincial jurisdictions. The feds, under a liberal government, have intruded much too far in areas that are supposed to be provincial jurisdictions, and it is way past time that his type of governance be reversed. This is one of the fundamental differnces between the Libs and the Conservatives, and I support the Conservative positon in this area whole heartedly. If you support the idea that a central government should control all areas of your life, vote liberal or NDP. Otherwise, you have to vote for the right in this area.
Quote: So you go ahead and vote for a man who has not a single progressive thought in his head, a man that thinks, well, like a <i won't say it> in failing to even view all citizens as equal because his book of myths tells him so.
I disagree totally with you. Harper has many progressive thoughts, including parental choice in daycare as opposed to state controlled and state influenced daycare, tax cuts for all, and free votes in Parliament (yes, I know what you were not willing to say). Why are you afraid of free democratic votes reflecting the wishes of the public? I am prepared to live with the results, are you? Or do you actually fear the results of a free democratic vote in a supposed democracy?????
