Police State Canada ?

mrmom2
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Well heres an update on whats been going on in BC .Last week the RCMP had a 26 hour road block on the #5 Yellowhead highway .They stopped everybody and demanded ID .Show your papers please .Our local city council here decided to use electronic voting machines in our municipal election .They have now acquired night vision portable camera's for our city with the promise of more on they way We have now got 7 more cruisers on the road and a helicopter in the sky The last really pissed me off when he decided to use his spotlight on me and my wife sitting in our hot tub in the backyard for no apparent reason .Whats going on in your neck of the woods these days or do you even pay attention ?
 
Reverend Blair
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See what happens when people for for the radical right, Momsie? The Liberals and Conservatives love the idea of being able to spy on their citizens...it gives them an idea as to which fear buttons to press in the next election.
 
mrmom2
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I couldn't agree more and you know who'll be getting my vote
 
Colpy
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Quote: Originally Posted by mrmom2

Well heres an update on whats been going on in BC .Last week the RCMP had a 26 hour road block on the #5 Yellowhead highway .They stopped everybody and demanded ID .Show your papers please .Our local city council here decided to use electronic voting machines in our municipal election .They have now acquired night vision portable camera's for our city with the promise of more on they way We have now got 7 more cruisers on the road and a helicopter in the sky The last really pissed me off when he decided to use his spotlight on me and my wife sitting in our hot tub in the backyard for no apparent reason .Whats going on in your neck of the woods these days or do you even pay attention ?

When you say they stopped everybody and demanded ID, do you mean they asked the drivers for their licenses, or did they ID everyone?

You do not have to give any officer ID. If any officer quizes you or asks for anything, simply ask "Am I under arrest?" If the answer is "no" or if there is no answer forthcoming, go on about your business.

Also, if police wish to search your car, ask what they are looking for, and ask what cause they have to believe you are in possession. Police can not search without reasonable cause.

I can't stand the idea of street cameras. Has nobody read 1984? Got a pellet gun? And a balaclava?

As for the hot tub incident, just the boys being arseholes. Complain.

The only people that have rights are those that exercise them.
 
mrmom2
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26 hour raodblocks are police state .Plain and simple I've got no problem with roadblocks for drinking and driving but stopping all vehicles on a major highway and asking where you going and why and for id is a complete joke on the taxpayer and there promising to have more .This is all just a warm up to the time the really start slapping the restrictions on us .You've got to admit were rapidly losing our freedoms all in the name of law and order I can't wait to here my brother inlaws excuses for this **** being a member of the RCMP.I'll get back to ya with those after christmas
 
Colpy
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Quote: Originally Posted by mrmom2

I couldn't agree more and you know who'll be getting my vote

And you'll wind up with cameras in your bedroom to make sure you are not being rude to your wife.

1984 was a warning about the left. However, extremes on either end of the spectrum are equally obnoxious.
 
Reverend Blair
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1984 was a warning against fascism and police states, Colpy. It is the right in Canada that is creeping toward those things.
 
Ocean Breeze
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Quote: Originally Posted by mrmom2

Well heres an update on whats been going on in BC .Last week the RCMP had a 26 hour road block on the #5 Yellowhead highway .They stopped everybody and demanded ID .Show your papers please .Our local city council here decided to use electronic voting machines in our municipal election .They have now acquired night vision portable camera's for our city with the promise of more on they way We have now got 7 more cruisers on the road and a helicopter in the sky The last really pissed me off when he decided to use his spotlight on me and my wife sitting in our hot tub in the backyard for no apparent reason .Whats going on in your neck of the woods these days or do you even pay attention ?

Did the police have the decency to tell people what this roadblock was about??? Or were the people to just go on "faith"..??? Would be interesting to hear their "explanation" for this roadblock and the search lights. Gotta wonder if they were on some "excercise " or looking for someone.

I would try to find out WHY this road block took place etc and the best place would be your local RCMP station. That is what I would do.......as that way you can get in your complaint too.

You still have the RIGHT to KNOW.......even if they cannot provide "detail"s ......they can give you an idea.

just some thoughts on this.
 
Reverend Blair
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It was about the same thing that such police actions are always about...a fishing expedition.

This is no different than when the Texas State Troopers were performing illegal searches in BC under the guise of training the RCMP. Training? Yeah, they were training them to trample all over the rights of anybody that happened to drive by.
 
mrmom2
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The paper gushed about how it was a success even though they didn't find any drunk drivers The cops went on and on about how there going to do it again in different locations through the interior I'd like to see them try it on the coast that would be their last time
 
MMMike
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Quote: Originally Posted by Reverend Blair

1984 was a warning against fascism and police states, Colpy. It is the right in Canada that is creeping toward those things.

It is the left that want to come into law-abiding citizens' homes and seize their legal guns. Who are the facsists?

Mrmom, I hope you gave the coppers a piece of your mind. I've got yer ID right here, mo-fo!
 
Ocean Breeze
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Quote: Originally Posted by MMMike

Quote: Originally Posted by Reverend Blair

1984 was a warning against fascism and police states, Colpy. It is the right in Canada that is creeping toward those things.

It is the left that want to come into law-abiding citizens' homes and seize their legal guns. Who are the facsists?

Mrmom, I hope you gave the coppers a piece of your mind. I've got yer ID right here, mo-fo!



why would you suggest that someone be AGGRESSIVE with the cops??? What will it achieve to "give them a piece of your mind"??? Their job is not easy by any stretch....and antagonizing them only puts one in their "head lights".
Suspect that cops take more than their share of abuse..........and yet when one is in trouble........who does one call???

(but each to his own.. )

Sometimes it is a good idea to see things from the other "side" ...
 
Reverend Blair
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It is the left that want to come into law-abiding citizens' homes and seize their legal guns. Who are the facsists?

The left wants to do no such thing, MMMikey. If you actually knew anything about the NDP, you'd know that.

If you knew anything about the Conservatives, you'd know that they were harshly critical of the Liberals not going even farther with their "anti-terrorist" legislation. You'd know that they tried to shout Bill Blaikie down in the House when he dared to stand up and speak up for the rights of Canadians. You'd know that they support internal passports, security certificates, holding people without charge or trial, secret trials where the defendant is not allowed to see the evidence against him, allowing Canadians to be rendered by US spy agencies and a thousand other infringments of our rights.

You are selling your soul for a 1% reduction in the GST.
 
jimmoyer
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In a more general way, both the left and the right
contribute to the loss of our liberty, especially when
it involves privacy, the well spring of most liberty.

The right does it more often with brute force,
claiming national security trumps the liberty issue
because there is no liberty without security.

The left does the same attack on our liberties
in a more unconscious, unintended way.
The left is all about enhancing the people's
rights to having a better life and so many regulations
ensue to enforce these. Examples abound, but
maybe this is for another thread than this Canada-
specific one.
 
Finder
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Quote: Originally Posted by mrmom2

Well heres an update on whats been going on in BC .Last week the RCMP had a 26 hour road block on the #5 Yellowhead highway .They stopped everybody and demanded ID .Show your papers please .Our local city council here decided to use electronic voting machines in our municipal election .They have now acquired night vision portable camera's for our city with the promise of more on they way We have now got 7 more cruisers on the road and a helicopter in the sky The last really pissed me off when he decided to use his spotlight on me and my wife sitting in our hot tub in the backyard for no apparent reason .Whats going on in your neck of the woods these days or do you even pay attention ?

Slightly different context. But that almost reminds me of the Flordian conch republic
 
Paranoid Dot Calm
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In Ohio ....

Bill Would Allow Arrests For No Reason In Public Place
Citizens Would Also Have To Show ID

December 19, 2005
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Britain will be first country to monitor every car journey
From 2006 Britain will be the first country where every journey by every car will be monitored

By Steve Connor
December 22, 2005
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MMMike
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Quote: Originally Posted by Ocean Breeze

Quote: Originally Posted by MMMike

Quote: Originally Posted by Reverend Blair

1984 was a warning against fascism and police states, Colpy. It is the right in Canada that is creeping toward those things.

It is the left that want to come into law-abiding citizens' homes and seize their legal guns. Who are the facsists?

Mrmom, I hope you gave the coppers a piece of your mind. I've got yer ID right here, mo-fo!



why would you suggest that someone be AGGRESSIVE with the cops??? What will it achieve to "give them a piece of your mind"??? Their job is not easy by any stretch....and antagonizing them only puts one in their "head lights".
Suspect that cops take more than their share of abuse..........and yet when one is in trouble........who does one call???

(but each to his own.. )

Sometimes it is a good idea to see things from the other "side" ...

In this country people have the right to go about their business without being pulled over or harassed by the police for no reason. The power to set up RIDE checkpoints are a special exception that we (society) give the police. They have no right to stop motorists and demand to see their identification. It reeks of fascism.
 
Finder
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Quote: Originally Posted by MMMike

Quote: Originally Posted by Ocean BreezeQuote: Originally Posted by MMMikeQuote: Originally Posted by Reverend Blair1984 was a warning against fascism and police states, Colpy. It is the right in Canada that is creeping toward those things.It is the left that want to come into law-abiding citizens' homes and seize their legal guns. Who are the facsists?
Mrmom, I hope you gave the coppers a piece of your mind. I've got yer ID right here, mo-fo!
why would you suggest that someone be AGGRESSIVE with the cops??? What will it achieve to "give them a piece of your mind"??? Their job is not easy by any stretch....and antagonizing them only puts one in their "head lights".
Suspect that cops take more than their share of abuse..........and yet when one is in trouble........who does one call???
(but each to his own.. )
Sometimes it is a good idea to see things from the other "side" ...In this country people have the right to go about their business without being pulled over or harassed by the police for no reason. The...

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I agree.
Though we should support our police when we can.
 
Paranoid Dot Calm
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Santa Claus is spying on us all because he knows who has been naughty or nice.

Calm
 
FiveParadox
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I agree that certain security measures to need to be taken, but we need to seriously consider the line between "security" and "breach of rights." I think that both the House of Commons and the Senate have done a great deal of important consideration on this very subject, especially in relation to the Antiterrorism Act • La loi antiterroriste.

For example, both Chambers have been very wary of the Government's use of security certificates, even if their use has been very conservative so far, to detain persons without necessarily such a detainee of the cause of their imprisonment. The legislation regarding security certificates should be repealed, in my opinion; nobody should be arrested without being informed of the charge and the evidence against them.

As for recent measures to grant police more access to our e-mail and Internet activity, I would urge anyone who is "cautious" regarding this measure to read the terms and conditions and contractual text regarding your use of the Internet and the services thereon — more often than not, some sort of provision in that agreement already gives your provider the right to give away your personally identifiable information, instant messages, and e-mail content to the Government or law enforcement agencies under exigent circumstances.
 
gerryduffett
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TOXIC WORKPLACES / WORKPLACE BULLIES / CANADA

Jan 11 2005

To Whom It May Concern.

Wow what an experience.
I was employed at Gal Power Systems in Mississauga to work on diesel generator systems.
I was working on a pair of 16 v 92 Detroit diesel generator sets at 4160 volt at a facility called the South West Regional Centre in Chatham Ontario.
I was requested by the project manager Moe Gallick of the Ontario Realty Corporation to supply and install some fuel system components at an Ontario Provincial Police transmitter tower close by.
When I went there to do the work I saw that this was an old abandoned site no longer in use.
I was let into the building and began work.
As I was working I noticed the building had a an unusual amount of rat poison or toxic chemicals distributed inside the building.
No breathing equipment or protective clothing were supplied by either my employer Gal Power Systems , The Ontario Realty Corporation or the Ontario Provincial Police.
Mr Gallick did not spend very much time in the building.
I did not complete the work.
Shortly after this I had to seek medical attention within the Ministry of Health and was off work for close to a year.
This was a deliberate act.
I almost died.
This act of incompetence was the end of a series of poisonings that started a couple of years earlier when I was working at Harper Detroit Diesel on a project at Mississauga Hydro , probably continued when I
was hired by Thomson Technology in British Columbia and almost ended in my death at Gal Power Systems.
Talk about bad politics or a toxic work place.
That's kind of the ultimate.
Some people say there is no corruption here in Canada.
The harassment in my workplaces to date with snide and off colour comments about my mental health are unbelievable and intolerable.
There is much more to the story.

Gerry Duffett
14-4218 Lawrence Ave E Box 218
Scarborough Ontario
Canada M1E4X9

Pager # 416-612-5689

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WORKPLACE MOBBING / GANG STALKING / CANADA

Jan 11 2004

To Whom It Might Concern.
Here is a copy of a letter I sent to the Toronto Sun newspaper about an article that was published.This incident that happened to me is an odd health and safety issue.
Here is a situation where a union might have made a difference. I will be sending more letters to various groups in the up coming year.

Hi Mr Margolis.

I found your article about Edwin P. Wilson all too frightening and hits me personally way too close to home. I was working at Harper Detroit Diesel in Toronto and one of my co workers or somebody in my customer base or the competition started poisoning my food over a period of months.
I almost died.
I had worked in the diesel generator industry for twenty two years as a field service technician at a variety of dealers and distributors based mostly out of the Toronto area. In this position I worked in and around all types of generator set applications such as apartment buildings, schools, retail stores, hospitals, marine units, data centres, airports, telephone switching centres, or just about anywhere you would find a generator set.This position also took me into a lot of high security buildings or buildings that you don't need to know exist. Some of the customers I have dealt with include Metropolitan Toronto Police, the Ontario Provincial Police, the R.C.M.P., Bell Canada, Transport Canada, Navigation Canada, Public Works Canada, Department of National Defence, the Ontario Realty Corporation, Nexacor Realty, AT&T, Cantel, C.I.D.A., External Affairs, and many, many more. I did quite a bit of work on high security micro wave and fibre optics communication links all around North America. This is where this poisoning comes from. One person I worked 15 yrs with on these systems, who I had not seen in 4 yrs, called me at home one night in the middle of this series of poisonings, who I didn't even know had my home phone number and asked "aren't you dead yet". I wound up on the West Coast of Canada standing in a parking lot with what were suppose to be Chinese Nationals from F.E.T.A.C. being photographed by the R.C.M.P. as part of a smear campaign.The worst part of all of this is Gerry Duffett almost died, thats me. The next worst part of all of this, is this is my tax dollars paying these freaks. I wonder how many times a day this goes on. I still don't know who poisoned me. I was off work for almost one year. I can now 5 yrs later barely hold a full time job. The harassment in my work place is unbelievable as far as off colour and snide comments about my mental health. There is much more to the story. My pager # is 416-612-5689.

Thank you.

Gerry Duffett.
14-4218 Lawrence Ave E Box 218
Scarborough Ontario
Canada M1E4X9

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P.S.
Just in the last couple of years a new fibre optics system was installed in Ontario to link all the power generation stations to one central control centre code named Ledcor.
Don't tell anybody you know that, somebody might try to kill you.
 
gerryduffett
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SEP 18 2005


Hi
Thank you reading and responding to my post. My situation deals with a project that I worked on at Harper Detroit Diesel that went to Somalia, where I refused to go, thats when all the trouble started, and a project at Mississauga Hydro. People who had a business interest in these projects started this stalking activity and it continues to this day in my workplaces. What has helped me greatly is information like you have provided. These types of situations have happened to "lots" ! of other people. It has nothing to do with criminal activity on the part of the target. It has more to do with some twisted "Mission Statement" that some companies, sick owners and managers have. Big egos and no brains. Once the rumor mill gets rolling, it's hard to stop. This situation is enhanced when somebody poisons you because the perps don't have to make you look crazy, you are crazy. I am currently putting together a list of names of people who I believe had a part in my brush with death. In that list is the person or persons who actually poisoned me. I still don't know for sure who did that. Oddly enough it seems everybody enjoys a good witch hunt, everbody except the huntee, their family and friends. It really is a sick society. Eventually when the huntee is ready, they become the hunter. What really keeps me focused on this issue is the harassment I receive in my workplace to date. Lots of ignorant people who try to keep the hunt on or to try to "push your buttons" I will strike out and hurt one of these ignorant people one day, and the motive for that will be harassment. You know what happens in life, what goes around, comes around. In the last few years I have met a few more supporters, once they hear the details of my workplace horror story. I guess things will all work out eventually. My health suffered greatly, but I do feel better. Sites like these help.

Thanks

Gerry Duffett

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gerryduffett
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GANG STALKING / CANADA

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