China take over Canadian natural resource sector
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As long as it does not violate any environmental, conservation, federal, or criminal laws. .... and for the right price, that is fair for the People of canada.
any interest group support or opposes china taking over Canadian natural resource sector?
Do they have spoons? you can't take over natural resources, just rent em. I think that natural resources need to be protected; however, we need benificial renewable systems put into effect, the faster the better.
Resource rape isn't benificial, but there are some serious issues and there are allot! of chinese, so if their human resources can effectively manage the world ... then that is good.
Do they have spoons? you can't take over natural resources, just rent em. I think that natural resources need to be protected; however, we need benificial renewable systems put into effect, the faster the better.
Resource rape isn't benificial, but there are some serious issues and there are allot! of chinese, so if their human resources can effectively manage the world ... then that is good.
I would not call it really resource rape, it is used allover the world under the name of Contracts. Japanese, french , English and Americans have been mining for Petrol oil for years in the gulf area countries, and no one is complaining of Rape.
I am not sure exactly if I do understand the "taking over" part, what does that mean?, and the resources is going to service who?.
I am not sure exactly if I do understand the "taking over" part, what does that mean?, and the resources is going to service who?.
It is simple, really.
China is a Fascist, militaristic state on the rise. It is a massive, and growing, powerr in the world, both militarily and economically.
The west needs to isolate China economically, and contain her militarily.
China is NOT our friend.
China is a Fascist, militaristic state on the rise. It is a massive, and growing, powerr in the world, both militarily and economically.
The west needs to isolate China economically, and contain her militarily.
China is NOT our friend.
Wow! Cuba, a neighbour of the world's megapower, the US, a fraction the size of Canada and much poorer too, managed to boot US companies out no problem, and all the mighty US was able to achieve was to sanction Cuba for the last few decades as punishment.
Meanwhile, Canada is now being portrayed as so fragile that some country across the Pacific will be able to take over Canada, much larger than Cuba and much wealthier too! Who honestly believes that some developping country across the Pacific has the capacity or even the desie to take over Canada when the mighty US was incapable of achieving so with a little poor island nation?
This idea is obviously racially motivated sinse there is absolutely no rational basis whatsoever to believe that China could pull off in Caanda what the US was incapable of pullng off in Cuba! Unless you really believe Canada to be that pitiful of course!
Another point about the fascist bit. While there could potentially be a risk of China going into that direction in the future, which certainly would be worrisom, China as it stands now, while perhaps nationalist (a potential concern in its own right, though not nearly as bad as fascism), is certainly not fascist yet with no evidence yet to suggest that it is doomed to move into that direction. Besides, don't tell me the US and even Canada can be a tad nationalistic at times too (pot calling the kettle black).
Besides, if China ever did step out of line, with UN authority, Canada could easily halt the export of natural resources to China in a flash! Remember, they own the petroleum company, not Canadian law, and they'd still need to find a way to get that petroleum from Canada across the Pacific to China. Even Chinese owned companies must still abide by Canadian law, which would mean that if canada should ever ban the export of petroleum to China, while its companies could extract the petroleum, they still couldn't send it home, only sell it in canada or other permissible markets in accordance with Canadian law.
Strange how concervatives, the champions of capitalism, are suddenly asking for socialistic government intervention in the free market to keep the 'chinks' out, while the evil left is not one bit concerned about the free flow of meny here, as long as the Chinese companies abide by Canadian law like all the rest.
Meanwhile, Canada is now being portrayed as so fragile that some country across the Pacific will be able to take over Canada, much larger than Cuba and much wealthier too! Who honestly believes that some developping country across the Pacific has the capacity or even the desie to take over Canada when the mighty US was incapable of achieving so with a little poor island nation?
This idea is obviously racially motivated sinse there is absolutely no rational basis whatsoever to believe that China could pull off in Caanda what the US was incapable of pullng off in Cuba! Unless you really believe Canada to be that pitiful of course!
Another point about the fascist bit. While there could potentially be a risk of China going into that direction in the future, which certainly would be worrisom, China as it stands now, while perhaps nationalist (a potential concern in its own right, though not nearly as bad as fascism), is certainly not fascist yet with no evidence yet to suggest that it is doomed to move into that direction. Besides, don't tell me the US and even Canada can be a tad nationalistic at times too (pot calling the kettle black).
Besides, if China ever did step out of line, with UN authority, Canada could easily halt the export of natural resources to China in a flash! Remember, they own the petroleum company, not Canadian law, and they'd still need to find a way to get that petroleum from Canada across the Pacific to China. Even Chinese owned companies must still abide by Canadian law, which would mean that if canada should ever ban the export of petroleum to China, while its companies could extract the petroleum, they still couldn't send it home, only sell it in canada or other permissible markets in accordance with Canadian law.
Strange how concervatives, the champions of capitalism, are suddenly asking for socialistic government intervention in the free market to keep the 'chinks' out, while the evil left is not one bit concerned about the free flow of meny here, as long as the Chinese companies abide by Canadian law like all the rest.
His post was stupid Machjo, it was not even worth a reply, he is just trying to incite something :roll: :roll:
Re: RE: China take over Canadian natural resource sector
and that formula comes from????? :roll:
Colpy said:
and that formula comes from????? :roll:
...this is true and the lefties will ignore this on the forum because they want to isolate the US and the "bad guy"....so they forget about the insane humanrights violations going on in China.... the anti sucession laws and the use of the peoples army against its own people, the internet screening....ect ect
....it is better for Canada economicaly and socially when they US is healthy rather than hoping for China to become our "daddy"....... China can be our friend but we have to understand who's coat tails we rode to success and quality of life.
Thats funny hank, you better inform your hero walmart. China is on your coat tails hank, your the one that better watch out. You won't be able to use your usual tatics with them. :roll:
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No not that simple,
It may look it is growing economically because of its GDP growth.
China has it's shares of health and environmental issues that they will continuously be busy dealing with. I spoke to a business man who lives in Canada but has an office in Hong Kong, he said while the market is growing really fast, no or little profit is produced. Chinese prices are very competitive with respect to manufacturing but there is not much profit because most of it is on raw material and little for labour. So no matter how good the economy may seem, people will always remain poor.
Last time I checked, the business sector funded the political parties in power, so in other words no politician will dare put China under any sanctions.
And how are you going to contain country with 1,306,313,812 population? Good luck.
"The west needs to isolate China economically" I do not want to make any assumptions on your level of intelligence, but wake up and look around you, look at our consumer market, almost everything is made in china, if China is put under any sanctions, it will result in harm to our markets. How about this, try not to purchase anything that is made in china, including car parts, or house hold equipment and material. Good luck again with it.
You do not have to be friends with China, but think about it, you are dependant on it on your daily life. So Whose your daddy???
Colpy said:
No not that simple,
It may look it is growing economically because of its GDP growth.
China has it's shares of health and environmental issues that they will continuously be busy dealing with. I spoke to a business man who lives in Canada but has an office in Hong Kong, he said while the market is growing really fast, no or little profit is produced. Chinese prices are very competitive with respect to manufacturing but there is not much profit because most of it is on raw material and little for labour. So no matter how good the economy may seem, people will always remain poor.
Last time I checked, the business sector funded the political parties in power, so in other words no politician will dare put China under any sanctions.
And how are you going to contain country with 1,306,313,812 population? Good luck.
"The west needs to isolate China economically" I do not want to make any assumptions on your level of intelligence, but wake up and look around you, look at our consumer market, almost everything is made in china, if China is put under any sanctions, it will result in harm to our markets. How about this, try not to purchase anything that is made in china, including car parts, or house hold equipment and material. Good luck again with it.
You do not have to be friends with China, but think about it, you are dependant on it on your daily life. So Whose your daddy???
who is hoping for that?? Not sure anyone needs a "daddy"...period. Business partners, positive /constructive trade relationships...?? sure. Friends??? One has no "friends" on the political playing field. "friends" and allies change with the mood of world events......and who happens to be leading the key nations.
the situation is dynamic and in constant state of flux. Being aware is critical.......as the flow /ebb can change in an instant. Nothing is permanent. particularly "friends".......if that word applys in politics.
Wow! Can you guys ever extrapolate!
WHERE did I say China was going to invade Canada?
Now, China has a capitalist economy, tightly controled and directed by the Government. It is staunchly nationalist. All media is government controled, as are unions. It is growing its military budget by 15% a year. Dissent is not tolerated.
THAT is the definition of fascism.
China has territorial aspirations in the oil-rich parts of the South China Sea. China threatens the democratic state of Taiwan, and has sabre-rattled against Japan. China wants to dominate the Pacific with her navy.
Name a murder state, from Kim Jong Il's North Korea to Robert Mugabe's Zimbabwe, and I'll show you a place where China is deeply involved.
The Chinese Communist regime is the WORST in all the world's sad history. Since Mao took power, as many as 70 million Chinese have met their deaths directly due to government action. Neither Stalin nor Hitler could match that number.
I buy nothing from China.
I urge you to do the same.
I am simply astounded that people (including Stephen Harper) can seriously consider threatening the USA by traking up closer ties with China.
Beyond my understanding.
WHERE did I say China was going to invade Canada?
Now, China has a capitalist economy, tightly controled and directed by the Government. It is staunchly nationalist. All media is government controled, as are unions. It is growing its military budget by 15% a year. Dissent is not tolerated.
THAT is the definition of fascism.
China has territorial aspirations in the oil-rich parts of the South China Sea. China threatens the democratic state of Taiwan, and has sabre-rattled against Japan. China wants to dominate the Pacific with her navy.
Name a murder state, from Kim Jong Il's North Korea to Robert Mugabe's Zimbabwe, and I'll show you a place where China is deeply involved.
The Chinese Communist regime is the WORST in all the world's sad history. Since Mao took power, as many as 70 million Chinese have met their deaths directly due to government action. Neither Stalin nor Hitler could match that number.
I buy nothing from China.
I urge you to do the same.
I am simply astounded that people (including Stephen Harper) can seriously consider threatening the USA by traking up closer ties with China.
Beyond my understanding.
...ahhh peapod..
...since the industrial revolution the US has lead the world in manufacturing......until around the 70s or 80s when Japan came on the scene..... now China and other countries which are able to manufacture cheap are obviously going to be successful in a globalized world...but whats is your point with China....globalization is something the US is pushing for not fighting against.....peapod your argument is not making any sence.....and do you really think that a US in recession and a powerful China is gonna lead to a better Canada?
....do you know what affects quality of life peapod.....do you know how much of our GDP can be linked to the US...or how much of a trade surplus we run with the US? do you understand what a serious recession will do to the US buying our products.... do you honestly think that China will help prop up Canada economically and that they are still a sea away while the US is our neighbor...... reading extremist poison will not do you good when you are face to face with someone ...it might pass on the internet ....
...since the industrial revolution the US has lead the world in manufacturing......until around the 70s or 80s when Japan came on the scene..... now China and other countries which are able to manufacture cheap are obviously going to be successful in a globalized world...but whats is your point with China....globalization is something the US is pushing for not fighting against.....peapod your argument is not making any sence.....and do you really think that a US in recession and a powerful China is gonna lead to a better Canada?
....do you know what affects quality of life peapod.....do you know how much of our GDP can be linked to the US...or how much of a trade surplus we run with the US? do you understand what a serious recession will do to the US buying our products.... do you honestly think that China will help prop up Canada economically and that they are still a sea away while the US is our neighbor...... reading extremist poison will not do you good when you are face to face with someone ...it might pass on the internet ....
Thanks, Technical Poet, I'll need it.
Ocean Breeze, I simply meant to encourage people to take a moral stand.
Ocean Breeze, I simply meant to encourage people to take a moral stand.
Hehehehehehe...you neocons are so obvious, man how to do keep up with it 8O The middle east, latin and south america, and now of course china :roll: :roll:
China is going to surpass you in super power status, this and only this is your concern. Its about no longer being in control, and your strategic competitor might oust you vulcans to second place.
China is going to surpass you in super power status, this and only this is your concern. Its about no longer being in control, and your strategic competitor might oust you vulcans to second place.
Re: RE: China take over Canadian natural resource sector
I love people who speak in absolutes. And literally, it's probably true. Very few of us buy things from China. I haven't imported anything directly from China for about 4 years.
But if you meant that you don't buy anything made in China, I'd say you're full of shite. Have you checked all of your electronics; all of your home appliances; all of the parts of your car???? All toys and recreational items?
China has now surpassed Canada as the biggest trading partner of the US. One oddity is that one of the magnetic gyro assemblies used in US missiles is only manufactured in ONE place....you guessed it, China.
Colpy said:
I love people who speak in absolutes. And literally, it's probably true. Very few of us buy things from China. I haven't imported anything directly from China for about 4 years.
But if you meant that you don't buy anything made in China, I'd say you're full of shite. Have you checked all of your electronics; all of your home appliances; all of the parts of your car???? All toys and recreational items?
China has now surpassed Canada as the biggest trading partner of the US. One oddity is that one of the magnetic gyro assemblies used in US missiles is only manufactured in ONE place....you guessed it, China.