Ah, Rev would know about weirdly obsessed ... he has an entire contingent on the internet who are insanely fixated on his every word. If anyone knows about how obsessed people act, it would be our Rev. I figure you ought to take it as a compliment! Not everyone would like to see a pic of you without your shirt. Or your gun, howitzer or not!
We know exactly where you swing music man yur not fooling anybody here.
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Quote: Originally Posted by peapodWhatever are you talking about? I am here to learn and discuss things. Nothing more, nothing less.We know exactly where you swing music man yur not fooling anybody here.
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Quote: Originally Posted by MusicmanI believe you are the one who suggested "which side of the plate" both you and the rev "swing from", so it's a bit silly to suddenly suggest you are here to "learn and discuss things"Quote: Originally Posted by peapodWhatever are you talking about? I am here to learn and discuss things. Nothing more, nothing less.We know exactly where you swing music man yur not fooling anybody here.
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So, are you left or right handed? If I said you had a lovely behind, would you take it the wrong way?
Quote: Originally Posted by ExtrafireQuote: Originally Posted by TenPennyThe whole point of a gun registry is that, if your guns aren't registered, they can be taken away. If your guns are registered, you therefore have a right to have them.
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All of you Harperites keep claiming that all the crimes are committed with UNREGISTERED GUNS. So, the registry provides a simple way for the police to decide which ones can be taken away. Therefore all you Harperites must be in favour of the registry, right?
Why are you people so inconsistent? You're contradicting your own bloody point.Silly statements.
Registration always preceeds confiscation. You people persist in this insane delusion that "the government" wants to take your guns. You really really need some therapy. There's no point in debating this any more: there is a large group of people who suffer from some delusion about confiscation. If registration always preceeds confiscation, why aren't you worried about your cars? I use my car a lot more than I use my rifle, and I'm far more worried about "them" confiscating my car.
To use your logic, "they" are obviously planning to seize everyone's car,...
Quote: Originally Posted by TenPennyQuote: Originally Posted by ExtrafireQuote: Originally Posted by TenPennyThe whole point of a gun registry is that, if your guns aren't registered, they can be taken away. If your guns are registered, you therefore have a right to have them.All of you Harperites keep claiming that all the crimes are committed with UNREGISTERED GUNS. So, the registry provides a simple way for the police to decide which ones can be taken away. Therefore all you Harperites must be in favour of the registry, right?Why are you people so inconsistent? You're contradicting your own bloody point.Silly statements.Registration always preceeds confiscation. You people persist in this insane delusion that "the government" wants to take your guns. You really really need some therapy. There's no point in debating this any more: there is a large group of people who suffer from some delusion about confiscation. If registration always preceeds confiscation, why aren't you worried about your cars? I use my car a lot more than I use my rifle, and I'm far more worried about "them" confiscating my car.To use your logic, "they" are obviously planning to seize everyone's car,...Quote has been trimmedWe're talking about guns, remember? Not cars or children. And I'm just referring to the history of gun...
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Quote: Originally Posted by ExtrafireQuote: Originally Posted by TenPennyQuote: Originally Posted by ExtrafireQuote: Originally Posted by TenPennyThe whole point of a gun registry is that, if your guns aren't registered, they can be taken away. If your guns are registered, you therefore have a right to have them.All of you Harperites keep claiming that all the crimes are committed with UNREGISTERED GUNS. So, the registry provides a simple way for the police to decide which ones can be taken away. Therefore all you Harperites must be in favour of the registry, right?Why are you people so inconsistent? You're contradicting your own bloody point.Silly statements.Registration always preceeds confiscation. You people persist in this insane delusion that "the government" wants to take your guns. You really really need some therapy. There's no point in debating this any more: there is a large group of people who suffer from some delusion about confiscation. If registration always preceeds confiscation, why aren't you worried about your cars? I use my car a lot more than I use my rifle, and I'm far more worried about "them" confiscating my car.To use your logic, "they" are obviously planning to seize everyone's car,...Quote has been trimmedWe're talking about guns, remember? Not cars or children. And I'm just referring to the history of gun...Quote has...
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You people persist in asking why cars are brought up when discussing guns, and then you say stupid things like,
"why register guns when it has no effect on crime"
and "it's nothing but a tax grab"
To which I say, "why register cars when it has no effect on crime" and "it's nothing but a tax grab".
You are so focussed on your right to own unregistered guns that you can't even see a parallel argument.
To which I say, "why register cars when it has no effect on crime" and "it's nothing but a tax grab".
Quote: Originally Posted by TenPennyI won't disagree with that one. Car 'registration' is a tax grab.To which I say, "why register cars when it has no effect on crime" and "it's nothing but a tax grab".
"because vehicle registration is practiced by all nations, gun registration isn't"
That's pretty much the most idiotic thing I've read.
You also win a prize for "nations who force gun registration are in reality police states"
Stunning. Stunned. Whatever.
"because vehicle registration is practiced by all nations, gun registration isn't"
That's pretty much the most idiotic thing I've read.
You also win a prize for "nations who force gun registration are in reality police states"
Stunning. Stunned. Whatever.
The most idiotic thing, as I said, was your quote showing the difference between gun registry and vehicle registry. You're displaying truly Olympian degrees of obtuseness.
In case you cannot fathom it, oh never mind. Go back to your God
We cannot go back and remove vehicle registration. We already have it and the gov'nts rely on it for taxes. Nations that do not have gun registration, do not need the tax money and therefore do not bother with it. It is a waste of money!
So, you're claiming you have NO objection to the concept of gun registration, only this particular implementation of it?
Quote: Originally Posted by TenPennyWhether I am opposed to gun registration is a moot point, because as I pointed out, we had gun registration prior to this piece of legislation. Therefore, my premise is we did not then, nor do not need now the present legislation. Same as car registration, as was pointed out on another response. It is here, so live with it.So, you're claiming you have NO objection to the concept of gun registration, only this particular implementation of it?
Quote: Originally Posted by MusicmanGun registration is here, but we don't want to live with it.Quote: Originally Posted by TenPennyWhether I am opposed to gun registration is a moot point, because as I pointed out, we had gun registration prior to this piece of legislation. Therefore, my premise is we did not then, nor do not need now the present legislation. Same as car registration, as was pointed out on another response. It is here, so live with it.So, you're claiming you have NO objection to the concept of gun registration, only this particular implementation of it?
Car registration is here, but we have to live with it.
Could you be slightly more clear?????????
No, gun registration is not here. In Oklahoma, you do not need to register your firearm and you also do not need to obtain any license (unless you want to conceal your gun). In these parts, freedom still prevails.
No, gun registration is not here. In Oklahoma, you do not need to register your firearm and you also do not need to obtain any license (unless you want to conceal your gun). In these parts, freedom still prevails.
Quote: Originally Posted by Nascar_JamesYeah well car thieves don't register their cars so we should get rid of vehicle registration!!We cannot go back and remove vehicle registration. We already have it and the gov'nts rely on it for taxes. Nations that do not have gun registration, do not need the tax money and therefore do not bother with it. It is a waste of money!
Vehicle registration doesn't stop accidents, so we should get rid of it for that reason too...it's a big waste of money!!
Quote: Originally Posted by Nascar_JamesI've never understood how anyone can equate possession of a firearm with freedom anyway...that's just so pheckin' stupid...No, gun registration is not here. In Oklahoma, you do not need to register your firearm and you also do not need to obtain any license (unless you want to conceal your gun). In these parts, freedom still prevails.
Quote: Originally Posted by Nascar_JamesYeah...unless you happen to look somewhat, kinda, sorta funny lookin'...then they'll rendition your ass and protection of your right to be tortured in private prevails...No, gun registration is not here. In Oklahoma, you do not need to register your firearm and you also do not need to obtain any license (unless you want to conceal your gun). In these parts, freedom still prevails.