The Gun Registry Must be Deregistered!!


Jay
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#151
Quote: Originally Posted by Reverend Blair

It was a bad example...we don't need a cop on every corner. I don't have a single thing to fear from the police, Blue. I do fear my country being turned into a police state by the fear-mongering radical right though.

Ok....but you have something to fear from someone who owns a hand gun?

Police carry them too...I don't get it.

Your accusing Blue of being a fear monger, but what is the left doing if not selling fear with this gun registry.

How on earth is keeping a list of people who have guns, anything but "police state" tactics. We on the right would relax guns laws, that’s how you keep a free nation, not by putting more cops on the street...you allow the citizens to defend themselves. Gun training and self-defense training are the answers to keeping a police state from coming in.
 
Vanni Fucci
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#152
Quote: Originally Posted by Jay

How on earth is keeping a list of people who have guns, anything but "police state" tactics. We on the right would relax guns laws, that’s how you keep a free nation, not by putting more cops on the street...you allow the citizens to defend themselves. Gun training and self-defense training are the answers to keeping a police state from coming in.

Defend themselves from what Jay?
 
Jay
#153
Criminals, and such.
 
Vanni Fucci
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#154
Quote: Originally Posted by Jay

Criminals, and such.

I find stealth and a tire iron to be a far more effective deterrent than any firearm...
 
Reverend Blair
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Ok....but you have something to fear from someone who owns a hand gun?

Gertting shot, getting robbed, getting threatened...you know, ther usual things that guns get used for.

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Police carry them too...I don't get it.

Police have a whole lot of explaining to do everytime they use their guns. They have guidelines and restrictions. They have special training. They still kill people wrongfully...by accident or on purpose depending on the situation.

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Your accusing Blue of being a fear monger, but what is the left doing if not selling fear with this gun registry.

Selling responsibility. If you have to fear or to hide, then why are you afraid of the gun registry?

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We on the right would relax guns laws, that’s how you keep a free nation, not by putting more cops on the street...you allow the citizens to defend themselves.

Why don't you ask the kids maimed at Columbine how free they feel? You are talking about relaxing restrictions on guns, after all. Presumably your model for this is the gun state to our south, since other developed nations retrict ownership.

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Gun training and self-defense training are the answers to keeping a police state from coming in.

Bull-****. You'll have people "defending" themselves in bars by shooting each other. You know how many bars I go to that have metal detectors on the way in? None. You relax gun laws though, and that goes away in a hurry. Of course the metal detectors will only keep the guns in the parking lot. That means you need more cops. It also means that those cops need to be better armed.

If you want a gun to hunt with, that's fine with me. If you are afraid to let the authorities know that you have that gun, I begin to get a little suspicious of your motives. When begin talking about relaxing laws on the ownership of presently restricted weapons like hand guns, alarm bells start to go off.

Increased access to guns is not a sign of freedom, it's a sign that you are trapped by fear.
 
Jay
#156
It doesn't sound to me like I'm the one in fear.
 
bluealberta
#157
Quote: Originally Posted by Reverend Blair

Quote: Ok....but you have something to fear from someone who owns a hand gun?Gertting shot, getting robbed, getting threatened...you know, ther usual things that guns get used for.
Quote: Police carry them too...I don't get it.Police have a whole lot of explaining to do everytime they use their guns. They have guidelines and restrictions. They have special training. They still kill people wrongfully...by accident or on purpose depending on the situation.
Quote: Your accusing Blue of being a fear monger, but what is the left doing if not selling fear with this gun registry.Selling responsibility. If you have to fear or to hide, then why are you afraid of the gun registry?
Quote: We on the right would relax guns laws, that’s how you keep a free nation, not by putting more cops on the street...you allow the citizens to defend themselves.Why don't you ask the kids maimed at Columbine how free they feel? You are talking about relaxing restrictions on guns, after all. Presumably your...

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There is no fear of the gun registry. The registry does nothing more or less than previous registration regulations did. Yet it costs us $2billion and rising to do not more or less. That is the problem with the registry. It costs a fortune and does nothing more or less than previous regulations did. Making farmer Brown a criminal because he does not register the .30-.30 he uses to shoot badgers, while not doing a thing to ensure guns do not end up in criminal hands is the height of luncacy and idiocy. The gang member in Calgary who just killed two other gang members undoubtedly registered his gun, right?

Spin it all you want, the registry does nothing more or less than previous registration requirements did. And costs us $2billion. Again I repeat, what a joke. Yet the left buys this as if it will stop all crime. Again I repeat, what a joke.
 
Reverend Blair
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It doesn't sound to me like I'm the one in fear.

You are the one who wants a gun for personal protection and have remained ignorant enough of the situation in the US that you think we should loosen restrictions on hand guns in this country.

It sounds to me like you are afraid. It also sounds to me like the kind of fear that gets pizza delivery boys who go to the wrong house shot for knocking on the door.
 
bluealberta
#159
Quote: Originally Posted by Reverend Blair

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It doesn't sound to me like I'm the one in fear.

You are the one who wants a gun for personal protection and have remained ignorant enough of the situation in the US that you think we should loosen restrictions on hand guns in this country.

It sounds to me like you are afraid. It also sounds to me like the kind of fear that gets pizza delivery boys who go to the wrong house shot for knocking on the door.

That response is typical of an uninformed response and promotes unnecessary fears to uninformed people. The same pizza guy could just as easily get stabbed by an unregistered knife. And I again reiterate, the Pacific NW in the US has fewer crimes per capita committed with guns than the Prairie provinces do. Same geographical location, much the same culture, much the same kind of political viewpoints, and much the same kind of urban/rural mix.
 
Cosmo
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#160
Well, Rev, as much as I hate this, I have to agree with blue on this one. It would be most interesting to see statistics on how many crimes are committed with registered guns as opposed to unregistered guns. The bad guys ain't going register. Never have. Back in "the day", many of my friends carried concealed weapons. Even then, it was illegal, but it did not stop them. Gun registration has probably had little effect on those people.

And, just to illustrate a point, I'd find it much more satisfying if blue showed up at my door and I greeted him with a shotgun full of rock salt rather than just my clever reparte!
 
Reverend Blair
#161
Look at the gun violence rate in the US (not Blue's little pick and choose anomaly, the whole picture), then the gun violence rate in Canada on a per capita basis.

Blue wasn't really responding to my point, Cosmo. I was replying to Jay, who wants to relax all regulations...not just the registry. I don't actually reply to anything Blue says anymore, since he's never actually had anything to say.
 
bluealberta
#162
Quote: Originally Posted by Reverend Blair

Look at the gun violence rate in the US (not Blue's little pick and choose anomaly, the whole picture), then the gun violence rate in Canada on a per capita basis.

Blue wasn't really responding to my point, Cosmo. I was replying to Jay, who wants to relax all regulations...not just the registry. I don't actually reply to anything Blue says anymore, since he's never actually had anything to say.

The point about this thread was the cost vs effectiveness. And comparing similar regions to each other is very valid. Comparing the Canadian prairies to Atlanta would be a poor comparison. For having nothing to say, my comments certainly seem to generate a lot of response by the leftists.

Cosmo, agreeing with me will not condemn you to a life in purgatory.
 
Cosmo
#163
Quote: Originally Posted by bluealberta

Cosmo, agreeing with me will not condemn you to a life in purgatory.

No. But these days it makes me want to take a shower.
 
Reverend Blair
#164
I'll be happy to discuss guns with you Cosmo...just not with the head peanut there screaming from his gallery.
 
bluealberta
#165
Quote: Originally Posted by Cosmo

Quote: Originally Posted by bluealberta

Cosmo, agreeing with me will not condemn you to a life in purgatory.

No. But these days it makes me want to take a shower.

Your choice, I guess. I still like sunsets over mountains though.
 
bluealberta
#166
Quote: Originally Posted by Reverend Blair

I'll be happy to discuss guns with you Cosmo...just not with the head peanut there screaming from his gallery.

Ah, Jay is going to be so upset.
 
Cosmo
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#167
Rev ... ignore ignore ignore ... sometimes it's the only thing to do with unpleasant children. Since we can't send him to his room or spank him, I suggest we pretend he does not exist.
 
Reverend Blair
#168
okay, Cosmo
 
Vanni Fucci
Free Thinker
#169
Have we wished someone into non-existance?

Who is it this time?
 
bluealberta
#170
Quote: Originally Posted by Vanni Fucci

Have we wished someone into non-existance?

Who is it this time?

It is me, Vanni, the only right winger left on this forum. George Orwell was right.
 
Vanni Fucci
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#171
Quote: Originally Posted by Vanni Fucci

Have we wished someone into non-existance?

Who is it this time?

 
bluealberta
#172
Quote: Originally Posted by Vanni Fucci

Quote: Originally Posted by Vanni Fucci

Have we wished someone into non-existance?

Who is it this time?

As I have stated, the gun registry, which this thread is about, has done nothing to change preexisting regulations and registration requirements, but has cost the country $2billion dollars of taxpayers money. Anyone who supports this without any kind of accountability has no grasp of how things should operate. Instead, a $2billion vote buying piece of legislation is in place to control non criminal Canadians, while at the same time, doing nothing to control criminals.
 
I think not
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#173
Quote: Originally Posted by bluealberta

Quote: Originally Posted by Vanni Fucci

Have we wished someone into non-existance?

Who is it this time?

It is me, Vanni, the only right winger left on this forum. George Orwell was right.

Not really, since some consider me a fanatic extremist right wing nut case.
 
bluealberta
#174
Quote: Originally Posted by I think not

Quote: Originally Posted by bluealberta

Quote: Originally Posted by Vanni Fucci

Have we wished someone into non-existance?

Who is it this time?

It is me, Vanni, the only right winger left on this forum. George Orwell was right.

Not really, since some consider me a fanatic extremist right wing nut case.

Oops, sorry, ITN!
 
Vanni Fucci
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#175
Quote: Originally Posted by bluealberta

Quote: Originally Posted by I think not

Quote: Originally Posted by bluealberta

Quote: Originally Posted by Vanni Fucci

Have we wished someone into non-existance?

Who is it this time?

It is me, Vanni, the only right winger left on this forum. George Orwell was right.

Not really, since some consider me a fanatic extremist right wing nut case.

Oops, sorry, ITN!


ITN--------> <-------Blue
 
Cosmo
#176
Quote: Originally Posted by I think not

Not really, since some consider me a fanatic extremist right wing nut case.

Are you?
 
Cosmo
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#177
Don't flatter yourself blue ... you are far from the last. And you aren't even counted among the "serious" right wing whackos. Just a royal blue pain in the butt.
 
I think not
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#178
Quote: Originally Posted by Vanni Fucci

Quote: Originally Posted by bluealberta

Quote: Originally Posted by I think not

Quote: Originally Posted by bluealberta

Quote: Originally Posted by Vanni Fucci

Have we wished someone into non-existance?

Who is it this time?

It is me, Vanni, the only right winger left on this forum. George Orwell was right.

Not really, since some consider me a fanatic extremist right wing nut case.

Oops, sorry, ITN!


ITN--------> <-------Blue

Isn't that nice, Vanni considers this an insult
 
I think not
#179
Quote: Originally Posted by Cosmo

Quote: Originally Posted by I think not

Not really, since some consider me a fanatic extremist right wing nut case.

Are you?


You'll have to answer that for yourself.
 
bluealberta
#180
Quote: Originally Posted by Cosmo

Don't flatter yourself blue ... you are far from the last. And you aren't even counted among the "serious" right wing whackos. Just a royal blue pain in the butt.

I assume this means I am a moderate right wing whacko?
 

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