Gomery Enquiry - April Fools Joke?

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vinny d'luxe

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I was just listening to the evening news...and just about chucked my dinner. Apparently, the Gomery enquiry heard testimony that is "so disturbing and so damaging to the Liberal Government it could prompt the Prime Minister to call a snap election". Alas, Judge Gomery has imposed a publication ban so the media is not allowed to tell us more about the testimony itself. What!?

That a judge should ban publication of testimony at a PUBLIC enquiry, and that news organizations should kowtow to such an imposition, is disgraceful. If anyone reading this knows what was said today, and by whom, please post it here so that Canadians can inform one another.

Vinny D'Luxe
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shamus11

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Liberals want an Election Now


By

James Bredin

The Liberals right now want to keep the Adscam closed,
So the public can’t find out what has been exposed,
Something terrible has been mentioned behind closed doors,
Stuff that could put the Liberals down in all fours.

Their ability to automatically get voted in,
Could be interrupted with the revelation of this sin,
They’re having secret meeting discussing this and that,
Getting ready for the upcoming election combat.

But if they could keep it closed before the sins are revealed,
They might still pull it off with all their sins still concealed,
Stuck in the Gomery inquiry behind that closed door,
They can claim there’s nothing wrong just like they did before.

So they need an election now rather than later,
But don’t want to trigger it like some dictator,
Even though the PM is not chosen by society,
They pretend piety propriety – not notoriety.

Now is the time that the Conservatives should say,
We’re taxed to the eyes and we just don’t want to pay,
We should elect those who will cut taxes in half,
Not like some Red Book that caused Liberals to laugh.

Friday, April 01, 2005

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Reverend Blair

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RE: Gomery Enquiry - Apr

If he didn't ban the testimony, the people responsible could walk.

Hey, maybe somebody will pay attention when I say that the Liberals are trying to force the Conservatives to force an election now.

It's been obvious all week, at least to anybody who follows politics and doesn't drool on their shoes while doing it.
 
mrmom2

mrmom2

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Who says there no corruption in the goverment?When a public enquiry is no longer public its time for the goverment to go!Corporate fraud pay offs I'm sick of the whole mess.These people should be thrown in jail period.The Canadian system of goverment needs a complete overhaul its a joke.No wonder nobody votes in this country theres a gang of criminals running the show.I think its time for a tax revolt till this gang of thieves is tossed out of office and thrown in jail.The Canadian people need to wake up and demand change. :evil:
 
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Reverend Blair

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RE: Gomery Enquiry - Apr

Nope, that's exactly the reason. The liberals know what's about to come out too, or maybe has started to come out.

That's the reason they put together the budget implementation bill the way they did. They already knew that the NDP and BQ were voting aginst it, they just needed the Conservatives to vote against it too. So they rolled it all into one.

The Conservatives bring down the government and suffer the backlash, the Liberals get another minority. This time the balance of power goes to the NDP and BQ because of Conservative social policy. They like that so they won't bring the government down. Martin steps down just before the next election, a new and popular hero leads the Liberals, and they get a majority for ten years after that.

I don't like the Liberals much, but they are extremely good at politics.
 
mrmom2

mrmom2

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Very good at stealing our tax dollars and giving them to there buddys!Total corruption when will the dumb asses in Ontario wake up and vote these clowns out of office
 
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cub1c

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My understanding was that the publication ban was imposed so that any testimony heard would not jeopardize any future criminal trials against Guite et al...

Am I wrong in believing this?
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Dead wrong!!!!!!!

This isn't the exact reason of the ban. The ban is because they are affraid that they, Guité et Cie, won't get a fair trial because they could get a impartial jury.

And this is because of the extreme hype this Inquiry gets here.

They were able to find partial jury to deal with the Hells Angels after their bloody war, that killed too much innocents, which have been highly mediatized.

The only people that benefits from theses ban are children below 18, and politicians. They are children with super powers. Come on. People need to wake up! Those people are getting a free pass.
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Reverend Blair

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RE: Gomery Enquiry - Apr

I hate to state the obvious, but...the NDP would like your vote. If nothing else they are the only federal party who are still promoting parliamentary reform. Keep that in mind when you go to the polling booth all angry about corruption in government.
 
Vanni Fucci

Vanni Fucci

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You make a good point cub1c...

The fact that there was a publication ban was released to the media, which pretty much precludes having impartiality in any impending trial, because people are going to be wondering what was so encriminating to necessitate a publication ban...

...and round and round and round it goes... :roll:
 
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Reverend Blair

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RE: Gomery Enquiry - Apr

Maybe we need to join the Bolivarian Revolution?

The publication ban was necessary though. At least if you want any semblance of justice later on. That's not a popular view, I know. The testimony will be available later though. If you release the testimony now, the crooks get a free pass. Your choice.
 
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cub1c

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RE: Gomery Enquiry - Apr

Yes Vanni, having rumors circulating like that in Québec is the last thing you want. Both federaly and provincialy.

But it isn't just that.

There could be part of their testimony in the Inquiry that could be too incriminating for them, those who have criminal charge.

In résumé, some of the things they will say in front of the commission are things they are not obligated to say at their trial.

It is getting nasty.

There is also rumors that to whole commission will come to a dead end soon, ending prematurably.
 
mrmom2

mrmom2

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I still say Jack looks like an old porn star :p You guys sure he dosen't have a skin flick in his closet somewhere :lol: :wink:
 
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vinny d'luxe

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Seems to me that during the course of a trial - many trials - the jury will hear a good deal of evidence, pro and con the defendant. They will also here advocates for the Crown and for the defendant put their respective spin on the evidence submitted - one arguing for a guilty verdict, the other for acquittal. So, we expect juries, or judges sitting as "triers of fact", to sort out a lot of material, some of it complicated on every imaginable level - intellectual, moral, legal and sometimes spiritual.

My point is this: a publication ban keeps a miscellany of fact and opinion from members of the public, with various points of view. I for one think that juries, in the circumstances of a trial, can perform their functions extremely well, even if they come to court with their heads loaded to the gunnels with "information", and even with their hearts tending one way or another. A publication ban assumes members of the jury pool - that would be us - to be morons. Do you think in days past, where villagers sat on the trials of local accused, that they came out of an environment that was not polluted all manner of rumour, opinion, conjecture, suspicion, and "certainty" as to guilt or innocence. Virtually all our jurisprudence emerges out of such situations.

Surely, the various members of this forum have contacts who know the testimony offered by Monsieur Brault today. Let's get the information, make it generally available, and see if it really does as much harm as Judge Gomery supposes it might. If it has that potential then counsel for Brault and other accused can make application for a change of venue - that is the safeguard that is already available to accused worried about prejudiced juries.

Not voting NDP. Damn sure I am not voting Conservative. Can't vote for BQ out here on the wet coast. Thinking that some other political entity can arise, without the dumb-dumb walls of our current political apparatus.

Think you what?

Vinny D'Luxe
 
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