Is Canada under a dictatorship?

[alienofwar]

Im baaaaaaaaack.....the other forum I joined is slowing down in discussion so I thought I might as well pop in and see how things are going in here. I can see this is still a cest pool of socialism and anti-american sentiment. Just the way you guys like it, no opposition and only a one sided view. Thats the Canadian way!

IS CANADA A FREE NATION?

By John Orth

http://www.vaxxine.com/scon/despot.htm

 

[mrmom2]

Sounds an awful lot like Bush,Cheney,andthe gang!Your rights are eroding as fast as ours!Read this article sounds like US democracy in action
http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/CHO411C.html
8O

 

[Reverend Blair]

RE: Is Canada under a dic

Slowing down at the other forum? Not quite the way I read it. It looked more to me like Trev got fed up with the trolling by some on the radical right.

 

[mrmom2]

What would we do with out them Rev?

 

[Reverend Blair]

RE: Is Canada under a dic

Build a successful society?

 

[mrmom2]

hahahahahahahahahahahahahah :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :wink:
I agree!

 

[cub1c]

Re: RE: Is Canada under a dic

Build a successful society?

Depends on your definition of a successful society. :wink:
Economicaly successful or socialy successful?

I think dreaming of both is not bad.

 

[no1important]

RE: Is Canada under a dic

Well we are a free country. We have more freedoms than America and the rest world. We have elections, females and miniorities can vote, we are free to travel anywhere in the world, we have freedom of religion and the list goes on.

We all bitch about the various levels of governments many times in our lives and we are happy and unhappy with some of their policies, but saying Canada is a dictatorship is very wrong.

There is nowhere else in the World I would want to live other than Canada. Some people do not realize how lucky we have it here. The positives greatly outweigh the few negatives.

 

[cub1c]

Re: RE: Is Canada under a dic

Well we are a free country. We have more freedoms than America and the rest world. We have elections, females and miniorities can vote, we are free to travel anywhere in the world, we have freedom of religion and the list goes on.

I agree.

We all bitch about the various levels of governments many times in our lives and we are happy and unhappy with some of their policies, but saying Canada is a dictatorship is very wrong.

Although dictatorship maybe not be the exact word, we may need to modernized the word by including "not having tangible choice". I think we can also point out that when we vote every 4 years, we are giving the FULL POWER of our country in really few hands. They are allowed to do what they want for 4 years. It's kind of the modern dictatorship, every 4 years you elect the next 4-year-dictator. Look at recent history and tell me if you like that idea.

In todays context, and interesting one, we have a minority government. In a perfect world, it would stay like that, but I doubt we live in that world yet. And recent ermmamericanerm history (ours too!) tells us that there is a big place for exageration and perversity when it comes down to black and white, with no gray.

There is nowhere else in the World I would want to live other than Canada. Some people do not realize how lucky we have it here. The positives greatly outweigh the few negatives.

Saying to Canadians that they should be feeling lucky for living here is pretending that they are ignorants. If we look at the ways we could help the countrys that are in need, given what i've said above, would it be a great message to tell them it's possible to live in gray? Not just black and white, good or evil, rich or poor? Aren't we mature enough to know what's good and what's evil and just move on in the gray?

 

[peapod]

Would somebody please get hold of Ripley so we can get rid of this alien :wink:

 

[Chake99]

RE: Is Canada under a dic

It gives you the impression that the PM can appoint and dismiss people from the Senate and the Supreme Court and thus has complete power over them. He only gets to appoint people when a vacancy is created, and thus to have complete control over the senate and supreme court a PM would have to be in power for around 40 years.

In other words its BS.

 

[Reverend Blair]

RE: Is Canada under a dic

The idea of Senate reform without total parliamentary is silly. We'd just end up with a deadlock and nothing would get done.

 

[cub1c]

I was not refering to only the senate.

The Gomery commission, for me, demonstrates how important decisions can be made by really few people. They have control over spending. They have total control over your money.

I don't think all federalists are crooks, but those who are seems to have too much power in their hands.

People tend to elect and let go for 4 years, and then choose another one if they are not happy the last. Which is not bad! But population lobbying could make it better. So since population lobbying is still weak, business lobbying seems to have more influence over politics.

So in a context were population is competing with businesses (perverse one), with a governement acting as a third party, i say follow your money.

 

[mrmom2]

I don't think all federalists are crooks, but those who are seems to have too much power in their hands.

They may not start out as crooks but they all end up as them.Theres just to much corporate lobbying going on in Ottawa.Money breeds coruption its just to tempting for most people.The only way to get rid of the coruption is get rid of the corporate lobbyists!

 

[Chake99]

RE: Is Canada under a dic

Yes and make donations to political parties not tax detuctable.

 

[Reverend Blair]

Yes and make donations to political parties not tax detuctable.

I would ban donations from anybody who is not an eligible voter outright. No corporations, no unions. I would also put severe restrictions on lobby groups, starting with equal time or no lobbying on an issue.

I was not refering to only the senate.

It's important to keep that very clear given that the Conservatives have retreated from overall parliamentary reform but are still pushing for a EEE Senate. They are trying to get a more Americanized system put into place. The problem is that the US system doesn't work either, so using it as a model would be a huge mistake.

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[cub1c]

I really believe in the population approach.

People's voice should be louder than private sector. That's what is happening in my part of the country. People that think Canada will change anywhere soon are dreamers.

Someone really known here said in the media recently: "People may not know, but Québec is going through a bigger mutation than the post-war one."

They are trying to get a more Americanized system put into place.

And it scares me off that they have chances of being Canada's next government.

 

[Reverend Blair]

RE: Is Canada under a dic

I don't think they'll be forming government any time soon, cub1c. That's why it's important that the BQ and NDP push for parliamentary reform right now...so that we don't end up with Harper as de facto dictator of Canada.

 

[cub1c]

RE: Is Canada under a dic

Maybe not in the current Canada, Rev.

But in a new sovereign Québec, it will happen pretty quickly!

 

[Reverend Blair]

RE: Is Canada under a dic

I don't see Quebec separating anytime soon unless Harper wins the election though. Then you have to teach me to speak you language, because I'll be moving to your new country.