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mrmom2
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#61

Re: Should Canada Become the 52nd State?

Jun 22nd, 2005
Okay spooky :P I live in a pretend world Like i said NEVER TRUST AN ALBERTAN THEY LIKE TO STAB PEOPLE IN THE BACK
 
I think not
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#62

Re: Should Canada Become the 52nd State?

Jun 22nd, 2005
I thought being spooky was my job! :P Dam you Blue, you're taking away my title. :P
 
no1important
#63

RE: Should Canada Become

Jun 23rd, 2005
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Whats "NWO"?

-- or --
 
jimmoyer
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#64

RE: Should Canada Become the 52nd State?

Jun 23rd, 2005
Paranoia seems to be very popular. Even the intellectuals will go to great lengths to prove why they should be paranoid.

Amazing.

Interesting to see what qualifies as main stream in another country.

Believe that evil will come in a form none of you recognize. It will come from yourselves. Not from the Elite. Not from some crazy invasion of Canada by the US.

Loss of liberty in a democratic republic comes more as a function of urban living than from any other reason.
 
bluealberta
#65

Re: Should Canada Become the 52nd State?

Jun 23rd, 2005
Quote: Originally Posted by I think not

I thought being spooky was my job! :P Dam you Blue, you're taking away my title. :P

You be the spook from the States, I be the spook from Alberta. Either way, the lefties don't like where either of us come from!!
 
dumpthemonarchy
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#66

Re: Should Canada Become the 52nd State?

Jun 24th, 2005
I want Cda to remain indep. but some things work against us. I saw on the CBC a few weeks an exercise of the Cdn military going way up north to retrieve satellite debris in a remote location.

It was a fiasco. Canada lacks a world class icebreaker, so the military vessel had to gingerly dodge the bergybits that could have sunk the ship. Then the military had to use local aboriginal fishing boats to get the soldiers ashore because their choppers did not work.

Basically, in the middle of summer, under ideal conditions, the Cdn military cannot do a simple maneuver up north when called upon. At present, under the current political regime there is no way to spend the millions of dollars necessary to patrol a vast area that will get busier as the Northwest Passage opens longer and longer each year as the earth warms up.

My guess is that the US is a little concerned about our feeble military and the majority of Cdns living within 200 miles of the US don't care. The world is changing, now China and the price of oil is rising, and the experts seemed to have missed it.
 
bluealberta
#67

Re: Should Canada Become the 52nd State?

Jun 25th, 2005
Quote: Originally Posted by dumpthemonarchy

I want Cda to remain indep. but some things work against us. I saw on the CBC a few weeks an exercise of the Cdn military going way up north to retrieve satellite debris in a remote location.

It was a fiasco. Canada lacks a world class icebreaker, so the military vessel had to gingerly dodge the bergybits that could have sunk the ship. Then the military had to use local aboriginal fishing boats to get the soldiers ashore because their choppers did not work.

Basically, in the middle of summer, under ideal conditions, the Cdn military cannot do a simple maneuver up north when called upon. At present, under the current political regime there is no way to spend the millions of dollars necessary to patrol a vast area that will get busier as the Northwest Passage opens longer and longer each year as the earth warms up.

My guess is that the US is a little concerned about our feeble military and the majority of Cdns living within 200 miles of the US don't care. The world is changing, now China and the price of oil is rising, and the experts seemed to have missed it.

I had heard about that satellite thing too, and thought it was really embarassing. Just like our quick response team took a week to get to the tsnumai victims, and had to rent a Soviet airplane. We need to decide if we are going to have an effective and well equipped military, and fund it accordingly, or simply admit that we will rely on the US for our defence, as we do more and more now.
 
Toro
#68

Re: Should Canada Become the 52nd State?

Jun 25th, 2005
Quote: Originally Posted by bluealberta

or simply admit that we will rely on the US for our defence, as we do more and more now.

...and admit that we have lost sovereignty because of it.
 
Reverend Blair
#69

RE: Should Canada Become

Jun 25th, 2005
Funny how you guys conveniently ignore that every party has a plan to rebuild Canada's military and that the Conservative plan is the only one that would tie our military to the US military, further eroding our sovereignty.
 
canadapledge
#70

RE: Should Canada Become the 52nd State?

Jun 25th, 2005
just read it

I am a Canadian, a free Canadian,
Free to speak without fear,
Free to worship God in my own way,
Free to stand for what I think right,
Free to oppose what I believe wrong,
Free to choose those who shall govern my country.
This heritage of freedom, I pledge to uphold
For my self and all mankind.

It defines who Canadians are; it gives us our identity. It is so commanding; it gives us our destiny.

Do you want to be free or to be part of USA Communist State?
 
jimmoyer
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#71

RE: Should Canada Become the 52nd State?

Jun 25th, 2005
Americans have no wish to take over Canada.

If you want to over-react to the special interests on both sides of the border that whip up distrust for its own benefit, then be free to do so.
 
Reverend Blair
#72

RE: Should Canada Become

Jun 25th, 2005
Click on the ribbon on the main forum page, Jim.
 
I think not
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#73

Re: RE: Should Canada Become the 52nd State?

Jun 25th, 2005
Quote: Originally Posted by canadapledge

Do you want to be free or to be part of USA Communist State?

Communist State. Nazi State. Constitutional Dictatorship. Police State. Fascist Government.

Keep going, eventually you will get it right.
 
Ocean Breeze
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#74

Re: RE: Should Canada Become the 52nd State?

Jun 25th, 2005
Quote: Originally Posted by I think not

Quote: Originally Posted by canadapledge

Do you want to be free or to be part of USA Communist State?

Communist State. Nazi State. Constitutional Dictatorship. Police State. Fascist Government.

Keep going, eventually you will get it right.

 
Ocean Breeze
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#75

Re: Should Canada Become the 52nd State?

Jun 25th, 2005
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Americans have no wish to take over Canada.


If you say so. ( for now.....anyhow
 
jimmoyer
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#76

RE: Should Canada Become the 52nd State?

Jun 25th, 2005
Americans have no wish to take over Canada.

If you want to over-react to the special interests on both sides of the border that whip up distrust for its own benefit, then be free to do so.
 
Nascar_James
#77

Re: RE: Should Canada Become the 52nd State?

Jun 25th, 2005
Quote: Originally Posted by Ocean Breeze

Quote: Originally Posted by I think not

Quote: Originally Posted by canadapledge

Do you want to be free or to be part of USA Communist State?

Communist State. Nazi State. Constitutional Dictatorship. Police State. Fascist Government.

Keep going, eventually you will get it right.

What the hell are you guys talking about, you have got it all backwards!!!

Communist state? The US has a very favorable tax policy and no useless social/welfare programs like Canada does for folks do do not want to work. Taking money away from working folks to give to others. It appears to me that the liberals in Canada are the real communists. In Quebec in particular, you can lose over 50% of your salary to taxes. That is pretty close to communism if you ask me!!!

Police state? Same thing ... Canada is the real police state, not the US. In Canada only the police can freely carry their guns, which paramounts to a police state. In Quebec you cannot carry a holstered firearm anywhere. If going to a shooting range, you need to place the gun in the back of your vehicle. Speaking of which, I got damn tired of calling up the police every time I headed out to the shooting range in Quebec. Here in the US I can freely take my glock 19 (9mm) to the shooting range holstered of course (not concealed) and it is perfectly legal. I do not need to register my firearm cause I am a law abiding person. In some states you also do not need a gun license. You can also legally carry your holstered firearm here in lots of businesses (supermarkets, shopping centers, barber shop ...etc). At the library you will need to check it in before you can enter.

Fascist state ... you need to look no further than the seperatists or liberals in Quebec (which is part of Canada). Even the United Nations ruled that they were discriminating against the English speakers, violating them of their civil rights.

After clarifying your statements above, it is clear that Canada is the real culprit here, not the US. If you want to truly live in freedom, the US is the only place.

- God Bless America
 
mrmom2
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#78

Re: Should Canada Become the 52nd State?

Jun 25th, 2005
All that is true but you better start paying attension to what your politicians are doing to your constitution You better start paying attension to what Gonzales is saying and doing he wants to start gun restriction laws Nascar_James.By the way who's your favorite Nascar Driver
 
Nascar_James
#79

Re: Should Canada Become the 52nd State?

Jun 25th, 2005
Quote: Originally Posted by mrmom2

All that is true but you better start paying attension to what your politicians are doing to your constitution You better start paying attension to what Gonzales is saying and doing he wants to start gun restriction laws Nascar_James.By the way who's your favorite Nascar Driver

Jeff Gordon!
 
jimmoyer
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#80

RE: Should Canada Become the 52nd State?

Jun 25th, 2005
I have a good friend that talks NASCAR all of the time, and the interest for me about all of it is the good obsession with detail, the science, the teamwork, the personalities, the rural circuits travelled...but but
I got no clue about most of it.

Regarding the loss of liberty I am warning you that the loss, the real loss is not coming from the usual suspects.
 
Reverend Blair
#81

RE: Should Canada Become

Jun 25th, 2005
Do you really think that carrying a gun that is more likely to kill a family member than an intruder makes you free, Nascar James? It sounds to me like you are imprisoned by paranoia.
 
jimmoyer
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#82

RE: Should Canada Become the 52nd State?

Jun 25th, 2005
Oh no. Both circuses are in town?

The anti-gun control circus AND the gun-control circus?

You think these two circuses are 180 degrees apart?

I gotta use the analogy again.

They're not 180 degrees apart, they're conjunct, like an eclipse shedding no light upon the subject.
 
Nascar_James
#83

Re: RE: Should Canada Become

Jun 25th, 2005
Quote: Originally Posted by Reverend Blair

Do you really think that carrying a gun that is more likely to kill a family member than an intruder makes you free, Nascar James? It sounds to me like you are imprisoned by paranoia.

I teach my kids about gun safety (at the shooting range) when they are really young to avoid any mishaps. Lots of folks here do as well. There is no risk of any gun mishap in my family, I can guarantee you that.

One thing is for certain, if there is ever a home invasion or burglary in my home while I (or any familty member) is home, the intruder(s) will be in for a rude awakening!

In Montreal, if I were to protect my family and fire at an armed intruder burglarizing my home, I would get arrested. What kind of justice is that??? It is a big joke!
 
Reverend Blair
#84

RE: Should Canada Become

Jun 25th, 2005
Imprisoned by your own paranoia...just as suspected.
 
jimmoyer
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#85

RE: Should Canada Become the 52nd State?

Jun 25th, 2005
Nascar_james ?
You're doing the right thing, teaching your kids how to use those guns, how to teach them maturity about guns and it is honorable to protect your family.

The anti-gunners don't believe you are stable, but you are. They disrespect you.

For several reasons.
They know this truth that availability of a gun is a chance for an accident, a chance for somebody to act stupid, a chance for someone in the heat of anger to do a regretful act and they know that owning guns certainly won't stop the authoritarian government from taking over every aspect of your life for your own good and for the good of the many.

That's why I say both the anti-gunners and the gunners are the two circuses in town and neither of them shed light or understanding on the matter.

Both are righteous. Both are wrong.

This issue is exacerbated by the real culprit who will steal both the liberal left's treasured liberties and the conservative right's treasured liberties and that culprit is the zeitgeist inherent in urban areas.

The real culprit is urban, not rural.

The real fault line on loss of liberty goes along urban and rural boundaries. A way of thinking and a way of living is inherent to both.

Perhaps urbanity is our coming insanity.
 
Ocean Breeze
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#86

Re: Should Canada Become the 52nd State?

Jun 25th, 2005
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In Montreal, if I were to protect my family and fire at an armed intruder burglarizing my home, I would get arrested.


and the problem is???

CA does not put as much emphasis on 'guns" as the US does. Amazing that every toddler in the US does not own a gun now.

But living in a dangerous, paranoid society can do that to people. Seems all those guns around......little wonder many are afraid of their own shadow.

There are more constructive ways of protecting ones home /property etc.
 
choppie
#87

RE: Should Canada Become the 52nd State?

Jun 25th, 2005
no
 
dumpthemonarchy
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#88

Re: Should Canada Become the 52nd State?

Jun 25th, 2005
Isn't that part of the problem, only the Tories have a plan for the Cdn military, and they want to be much more closely associated with the USA. While most Cdns don't want any kind of military buildup at all. Which is the attitude in Ottawa, the military procurment process under Libs and Tory gov'ts has always been one big porkbarreling exercise. So we have zero icebreakers for example, less than Finland.

Right now, I do not think BC has one military base on the coast, and we need a few more in the north. The expense is huge, like the territory.
 
no1important
#89

RE: Should Canada Become

Jun 25th, 2005
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Right now, I do not think BC has one military base on the coast

Just CFB Comox (air force) and CFB Esquimalt (Navy).

No Army bases in Province at all. They closed CFB Chilliwack a few years back, at the same time they closed the one in Calgary and moved it all to Edmonton.
 
nelk
#90

Re: Should Canada Become the 52nd State?

Jun 25th, 2005
You asked !
 

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