#91
Re: Direct Democracy
Mar 17th, 2005
The corporate reference is interesting.
This isn't the place to get into the pros/cons of the corporation as a 'person' however, it can be used to illustrate a point.
Lets say that tomorrow 85% of Canadians believe that the corporation as a 'person' doesn't align with the long-term best interests of their society. So, what happens?
Well, today nothing because they have no power beyond bitching and moaning. A political party needs to take up their cause.
Is a so-called right wing or centrist party going to do this? Well probably not, just can't see old Steve or Paul being too interested in pursuing the matter. The best Canadians could hope for is a vague generalisation in the party platform as to 'looking into this matter that is of concern to many Canadians'. Of course, nothing would ever end up being done.
So, let's say a so-called left wing party makes this a plank in their platform. Well, then you've got the problem of choosing whether that plank is enough to make you vote for a party that may have nine other planks you see as 'pie in the sky', whatever. So, we probably don't have a lot of hope from that direction.
But, say this becomes a real issue across Canada. At some point the politicos will piously state it's a matter for the courts, after which it will get tied up there for ten or twenty years while high paid lawyers argue precedents from Roman law forward that support the notion as the corporation as a 'person' in front of politically appointed judges who will probably see the exercise as an annoying nuisance that just reduces the time they can spend caring for their (shareholder) investment portfolios.
While this is happening, corporations will, among other strategies, relentlessly bombard the public with propaganda showing the 'good' they are doing for one and all, intermixed with dire warnings concerning the destruction of our economy and all that is good in the world and potential veiled threats from a southerly direction.
So, I'd guess the chance of any change in this regard within our current structure to be slim to none.
In a DD society, the 85% would get to vote on an initiative raised by Reverend Blair, and corporations would no longer be 'people' in Canada.

This isn't the place to get into the pros/cons of the corporation as a 'person' however, it can be used to illustrate a point.
Lets say that tomorrow 85% of Canadians believe that the corporation as a 'person' doesn't align with the long-term best interests of their society. So, what happens?
Well, today nothing because they have no power beyond bitching and moaning. A political party needs to take up their cause.
Is a so-called right wing or centrist party going to do this? Well probably not, just can't see old Steve or Paul being too interested in pursuing the matter. The best Canadians could hope for is a vague generalisation in the party platform as to 'looking into this matter that is of concern to many Canadians'. Of course, nothing would ever end up being done.
So, let's say a so-called left wing party makes this a plank in their platform. Well, then you've got the problem of choosing whether that plank is enough to make you vote for a party that may have nine other planks you see as 'pie in the sky', whatever. So, we probably don't have a lot of hope from that direction.
But, say this becomes a real issue across Canada. At some point the politicos will piously state it's a matter for the courts, after which it will get tied up there for ten or twenty years while high paid lawyers argue precedents from Roman law forward that support the notion as the corporation as a 'person' in front of politically appointed judges who will probably see the exercise as an annoying nuisance that just reduces the time they can spend caring for their (shareholder) investment portfolios.
While this is happening, corporations will, among other strategies, relentlessly bombard the public with propaganda showing the 'good' they are doing for one and all, intermixed with dire warnings concerning the destruction of our economy and all that is good in the world and potential veiled threats from a southerly direction.
So, I'd guess the chance of any change in this regard within our current structure to be slim to none.
In a DD society, the 85% would get to vote on an initiative raised by Reverend Blair, and corporations would no longer be 'people' in Canada.
