What about the Green Party?

[thoughtful]

Well, I don't have a CAP candidate and I don't like Jack Layton or a bunch of other NDP's so ...
I actually must go read about the Green Party again. Don't remember what I didn't like.
What do you think of them?

 

[Dingbat]

I personally don't see how the green party could effectively run a country without infringing on individual rights. Face it, they'll limit corporations by telling them what they can and cannot make for the sake of our 'environment', and they'll flush most of our money into social programs. Communism in my opinion.

 

[Reverend Blair]

I think they are growing and are a small but positive influence right now. That influence, if things go in Canada like they have elsewhere, will become much greater in a relatively short period of time. They are as much a world-wide movement as anything else, with substantial political representation in many countries.

They are also not communists. Their leader is an ex-tory, so statments like that are just silly, really.

My biggest problem with the Greens is that they may take votes away from the NDP, since they draw more from the left side of the political spectrum. They do draw from across that spectrum though, and many people who would not have otherwise voted do support them.

 

[Dingbat]

If their agenda includes capital limitations, and flushing our tax dollars into social and environmental programs, then I think it's a safe bet to call them communists. This is not the best way to ensure that humans will find a way to coexist with the environment in a more sanitary and respectable fashion.

It's a good way to send us back to the stone age however.

 

[Reverend Blair]

You really should learn more about their platform, Dingbat. Environmentalism saves mosy in the long run, first of all. It also opens up new technologies and, through that, creates business opportunities and jobs.

It isn;t just the Greens saying that, but it is central to many of their policies. It also makes a lot more sense than choking ourselves.

 

[Dingbat]

Our tax money is lost into their environmental programs. Capitalism, not communism, will be the best system to allow advances in our technologies, sciences, job availability, business opportunities..etc

Don't get me wrong, I do cherish our fragile environment.

 

[Koga Ringo]

I would have to agree.
The Green party seems to have their head in the right place.
This world is going to hell in a handbasket, but they might be able to turn us around.
The only problem is that they might now have the experience to run a country, and save it at the same time.
I think they should be elected for just 4 years, to see what they are capable of, and if they did a good job, elect them again.
Basically, we just have to give them a chance to find out.

***Note****

Dingbat joined may 2-4, hehe... Quite the date.

 

[Reverend Blair]

The Green Party aren't communists, Dingbat. Their leader is an ex-tory. Trying to paint them as communists shows a lack of knowledge about the Green Party, world history, Canadian history, communism, socialism, and politics. The only communists in Canadian politics are the Communist Party of Canada.

 

[Andem]

Blair has the right idea. The times, they are a changing. The greensh ave around 7% support at the moment, and if they were to be another election, they might gain some more votes.

I know the greens are big in Germany, but I'm not sure if they are the same type of party.

 

[gnuman]

Our tax money is lost into their environmental programs. Capitalism, not communism, will be the best system to allow advances in our technologies, sciences, job availability, business opportunities..etc

Don't get me wrong, I do cherish our fragile environment.

Capitalism look at the bloody americans. Capitialism kills the economy that's why so many jobs are outsourced to India and China because of profits.

Jobs will be created overseas and our govt won't be collecting any taxes. Capitalism kills when not used properly.

 

[Dingbat]

It does not matter if their leader is ex-Tory. They have had many leaders but their political standings have remained pretty much the same. If they advocate such capital limitations as I have mentioned, then they are communists in my book. Communism is a system where individual gain and privatization is not emphasized. It does not matter what names you call your party or what you were classified as before.

Capitalism is a good system. However, for it to work, the people must want it. In this case, there needs to be a commonly understood moral foundation which comes along with the system. I believe countries like America are plagued by the morals which reside within. This is not the fault of capitalism but of the people.

So what if jobs are across the seas? Overseas jobs would eliminate nationalism, provide opportunities, and unite us. So what if taxes are cut? Taxes are almost pointless due to the limited control the government has over the economy.

 

[moghrabi]

The Green Party is still green (young). They will make a bigger mess than what we have now.

 

[Numure]

It does not matter if their leader is ex-Tory. They have had many leaders but their political standings have remained pretty much the same. If they advocate such capital limitations as I have mentioned, then they are communists in my book. Communism is a system where individual gain and privatization is not emphasized. It does not matter what names you call your party or what you were classified as before.

Capitalism is a good system. However, for it to work, the people must want it. In this case, there needs to be a commonly understood moral foundation which comes along with the system. I believe countries like America are plagued by the morals which reside within. This is not the fault of capitalism but of the people.

So what if jobs are across the seas? Overseas jobs would eliminate nationalism, provide opportunities, and unite us. So what if taxes are cut? Taxes are almost pointless due to the limited control the government has over the economy.

Its called Socialism, not communism. Learn something, before you spout out some random words. Corparation do not have the intrest of the people at heart, their pockets come first. That is enough for me to want to dig a hole, and stick Capitalism in it.

 

[Reverend Blair]

Their political standing is a moderate one, Dingbat. To have a system that allows personal gain, but not at the expense of the well-being of others.

 

[Dingbat]

Socialism is merely a mask to communism. I suggest you do some objective research.

I can't see the green party allowing much personal gain if they will advocate such capital limitations. The best way to ensure environmentally safe technological advances is through the freedom of a free market unregulated by government intervention. All corporations need to do is worry about their profits because in their attempts to increase profits, they will try to please the consumers. It is the consumer, YOU, who has the power here, not the corporations. You chose which corporation will survive and which wont. It is a sort of democracy.

Having a government body force corporations to shut down or comply is messing with the free market economy and we all know where that goes.... down...

 

[Dingbat]

oops, double posted

 

[Koga Ringo]

Why don't you just delete the second one then?
I think you're after more posts personally.
:wink:

 

[Reverend Blair]

The best way to ensure environmentally safe technological advances is through the freedom of a free market unregulated by government intervention.

That's what got us to where we are no, Dingbat. Our environment is a mess.

Socialism is merely a mask to communism. I suggest you do some objective research.

I did my objective research, then I started supporting the NDP.

 

[Dingbat]

Yes, Capitalism got us our polluting technology, but it will get us out of it. If people become aware and concerned about pollution and the environment, then having a system like Capitalism where it's the people that run the show is going to be more suitable for us to get out of it. It's going to get us out of this pollution rut much faster than having to elect politicians and governments. Capitalism is a system which works according to the people's ever changing inclinations and ideals.

Really? You did your objective research and yet you still support systems which are anti-individualism, and thus anti-freedom? You are the first.

 

[Reverend Blair]

There is nothing anti-individualistic or anti-freedom about the NDP, Dingbat. In fact if you actually look at who stood up first and most against recent attempts to curtail our individual rights, you will find that it was the NDP.

Corporations have worked tirelessly to keep environmental legislation from being passed. When they cannot block it, they seek to weaken it.

Do you not have access to the media where you are?