#31
Re: Nice American Article: US vs. Canada
May 8th, 2004
Not to mention an apparent arrogance from those who insist they know better, but seem unable to put it into words.
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#32
Re: Nice American Article: US vs. Canada
May 18th, 2004
Posted By Sorbito:
Posted: Mon May 17, 2004 4:46 pm Post subject: Re: Nice American Article: US vs. Canada
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As one who was born and raised in Canada, then lived in California for a couple of decades and has returned to Canada, let me say this. California is a comfortable place to live only if you have lots of money. They don't give a poop about the well-being of their poor and sick citizens. Basically, they don't care if you die .
Yes, Canadian winters are harsh, but it's people care more about each other than just about money (generally speaking).
My experience with the healthcare system in Toronto is that it has been very good to me. Having had serious surgery here I can from experience say that I will never again be sucked into the myth California is. A similar operation there would have destroyed me financially. Our Canadian system means I have a life of dignity as a human-being, even if I don't have a lot of money. Think about it, think about your future in the worst possible scenario...Canada is better!
Posted: Mon May 17, 2004 4:46 pm Post subject: Re: Nice American Article: US vs. Canada
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As one who was born and raised in Canada, then lived in California for a couple of decades and has returned to Canada, let me say this. California is a comfortable place to live only if you have lots of money. They don't give a poop about the well-being of their poor and sick citizens. Basically, they don't care if you die .
Yes, Canadian winters are harsh, but it's people care more about each other than just about money (generally speaking).
My experience with the healthcare system in Toronto is that it has been very good to me. Having had serious surgery here I can from experience say that I will never again be sucked into the myth California is. A similar operation there would have destroyed me financially. Our Canadian system means I have a life of dignity as a human-being, even if I don't have a lot of money. Think about it, think about your future in the worst possible scenario...Canada is better!
#33
Re: Nice American Article: US vs. Canada
May 18th, 2004
Posted by Andem:
Posted: Mon May 17, 2004 7:31 pm Post subject:
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Hi sorbito!
It's good to hear it from someone who has actual experience in both places. God help you if you ever get sick while you're in the United States.
They always seem to call Canada a socialist country... I suppose the people that say this are quite naive about a lot of stuff. Just because we have a good public health system, doesn't mean we're socialists!
Anyways, good points.
Posted: Mon May 17, 2004 7:31 pm Post subject:
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Hi sorbito!
It's good to hear it from someone who has actual experience in both places. God help you if you ever get sick while you're in the United States.
They always seem to call Canada a socialist country... I suppose the people that say this are quite naive about a lot of stuff. Just because we have a good public health system, doesn't mean we're socialists!
Anyways, good points.
#34
Re: Nice American Article: US vs. Canada
May 18th, 2004
Posted by Numure:
Posted: Sat May 15, 2004 4:53 pm Post subject:
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The war on terrorism is the Americans war... We got draged into it... And it made us a target.. Iraq had nothing to do with terrorism. Though now, with saddam gone, Iraq is fertile grounds for terrorist... What an irony..
Posted: Sat May 15, 2004 4:53 pm Post subject:
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The war on terrorism is the Americans war... We got draged into it... And it made us a target.. Iraq had nothing to do with terrorism. Though now, with saddam gone, Iraq is fertile grounds for terrorist... What an irony..
#35
Re: Nice American Article: US vs. Canada
May 24th, 2004
This article is true.
We have leaned on socialism and the USA has leaned on capitalism. So we fell behind years ago. Its all thanks to liberals who force Canada into debt and discourage business transactions which help Canadians who work and live in this country. Don't listen to liberal propaganda
We have leaned on socialism and the USA has leaned on capitalism. So we fell behind years ago. Its all thanks to liberals who force Canada into debt and discourage business transactions which help Canadians who work and live in this country. Don't listen to liberal propaganda
#36
Re: Nice American Article: US vs. Canada
Dec 14th, 2004
"we fell behind years ago"
What are you referencing? It depends on what values you hold. A neo-conservative attitude only tries to help the small percentage of rich people. The fact is that large companies and multi-nationals are psycopathic in nature. They consistently attempt to make money and disregard all of their negative impacts on people, and the environment. In fact this barbaric and archaic industrial attitude is a marked trait for conservative governments (U.S.A, Alberta). The most pathetic part about these disillusioned people/governments is that they forget that they are fundamentally driven on the backs of the average person who is gouged and left powerless. The current social system ushered into Canada (which you obviously take for granted) via leftwing governments is at least more dynamic and progressive then our theocratic neighbours to the south. Just because we do not follow the American capitalist dogma does not make Canada a lesser nation to anyone other then money grubbing capitalists. Perhaps it makes for a richer and more egalitarian society.
Also you should get your facts straight. The liberals have actually posted a surplus for years now.
The politics in Alberta are beginning to emulate the U.S. which is frightening in itself. Perhaps all of the oil money is going to your head. Be careful, where will you be in 50 years when all the oil has been taken from the land? Then you will see what a conservative government really does to the average person.
PS I don't agree with the liberals but I think your statement underscores precisely what is wrong with modern society. A total disregard and dependence to the average worker.
PSS Just talk to a Cape Bretoner about conservatism and industrialism.
What are you referencing? It depends on what values you hold. A neo-conservative attitude only tries to help the small percentage of rich people. The fact is that large companies and multi-nationals are psycopathic in nature. They consistently attempt to make money and disregard all of their negative impacts on people, and the environment. In fact this barbaric and archaic industrial attitude is a marked trait for conservative governments (U.S.A, Alberta). The most pathetic part about these disillusioned people/governments is that they forget that they are fundamentally driven on the backs of the average person who is gouged and left powerless. The current social system ushered into Canada (which you obviously take for granted) via leftwing governments is at least more dynamic and progressive then our theocratic neighbours to the south. Just because we do not follow the American capitalist dogma does not make Canada a lesser nation to anyone other then money grubbing capitalists. Perhaps it makes for a richer and more egalitarian society.
Also you should get your facts straight. The liberals have actually posted a surplus for years now.
The politics in Alberta are beginning to emulate the U.S. which is frightening in itself. Perhaps all of the oil money is going to your head. Be careful, where will you be in 50 years when all the oil has been taken from the land? Then you will see what a conservative government really does to the average person.
PS I don't agree with the liberals but I think your statement underscores precisely what is wrong with modern society. A total disregard and dependence to the average worker.
PSS Just talk to a Cape Bretoner about conservatism and industrialism.
#37
RE: Nice American Article
Dec 14th, 2004
Have you seen the movie The Corporation, JORcon5? If not I highly recommend it.
#38
Re: Nice American Article: US vs. Canada
Jan 5th, 2005Quote:
Hmm, last time I checked, I wasn't poor. Heh.Unfortunately for Canada, all U.S. states, except for West Virginia, have higher levels of economic freedom than the Canadian provinces, with the exception of Alberta and Ontario. As a result, the richest Canadian provinces have incomes that approximate the poorest U.S. states.
"Government Failure in Canada, 1997-2004
#39
RE: Nice American Article: US vs. Canada
Jan 5th, 2005
me neither. I am not rich put I would say middle class and comfortable. Still with buying clothes for a teen age girl and food for a teenage male I am not sure how long that will last.
I think it is just more "pro american" propaganda that the American government constantly feeds it people.(from the day they are born, I would say)
I guess if I was poor I would rather be in Canada as we do have a good safety net, for those who chose to use it.
America is more concerned about the "almighty dollar" and trying to change the world to its beliefs.
Canada actually looks after its citizens. Its not perfect but it is much better than what they have in America.
All it would take is one long hospital in the USA to make anyone poor again unless you are rich. There health plans are a joke. Even with coverage they still pay through the nose.
So yes I will take Canada's "social programs" over the American one.
Do lower income Americans get Baby Bonus(child tax credit) or an equivalent of GST cheques or access to world class health care (even with its problems)no.
America is slowly becoming a two class society rich and poor. And you will need "W"'s god to help you if you are poor in america.
Plus Canada welcomes and accepts people who are diferent(race, sexual orientation etc) unlike America, and its anti muslim, anti gay tirade they are on now.
I think it is just more "pro american" propaganda that the American government constantly feeds it people.(from the day they are born, I would say)
I guess if I was poor I would rather be in Canada as we do have a good safety net, for those who chose to use it.
America is more concerned about the "almighty dollar" and trying to change the world to its beliefs.
Canada actually looks after its citizens. Its not perfect but it is much better than what they have in America.
All it would take is one long hospital in the USA to make anyone poor again unless you are rich. There health plans are a joke. Even with coverage they still pay through the nose.
So yes I will take Canada's "social programs" over the American one.
Do lower income Americans get Baby Bonus(child tax credit) or an equivalent of GST cheques or access to world class health care (even with its problems)no.
America is slowly becoming a two class society rich and poor. And you will need "W"'s god to help you if you are poor in america.
Plus Canada welcomes and accepts people who are diferent(race, sexual orientation etc) unlike America, and its anti muslim, anti gay tirade they are on now.
#40
Re: Nice American Article: US vs. Canada
Jan 7th, 2005
Agreed.
What I truly think is sad, is that people from other countries see America as "The Perfect Place". Everyone would be comfortably rich, would have a job, a car, a house, a pool and a family. They don't see the "other side" as I like to call it.
They are cities in the US that are as poor some in Africa. You'll never see THAT on TV though, that's for sure.
There is such a hypocricy there. Corruption is at an all-time high.
Let me tell everyone this: If the people knew, what their beloved President did, I swear, there would be a revolution.
Oh, and that report? It REEKS of PRO-AMERICAN NON-SENSE.
What I truly think is sad, is that people from other countries see America as "The Perfect Place". Everyone would be comfortably rich, would have a job, a car, a house, a pool and a family. They don't see the "other side" as I like to call it.
They are cities in the US that are as poor some in Africa. You'll never see THAT on TV though, that's for sure.
There is such a hypocricy there. Corruption is at an all-time high.
Let me tell everyone this: If the people knew, what their beloved President did, I swear, there would be a revolution.
Oh, and that report? It REEKS of PRO-AMERICAN NON-SENSE.
#41
Re: Nice American Article: US vs. Canada
Jan 7th, 2005
Agreed.
What I truly think is sad, is that people from other countries see America as "The Perfect Place". Everyone would be comfortably rich, would have a job, a car, a house, a pool and a family. They don't see the "other side" as I like to call it.
They are cities in the US that are as poor some in Africa. You'll never see THAT on TV though, that's for sure.
There is such a hypocricy there. Corruption is at an all-time high.
Let me tell everyone this: If the people knew, what their beloved President did, I swear, there would be a revolution.
Oh, and that report? It REEKS of PRO-AMERICAN NON-SENSE.
What I truly think is sad, is that people from other countries see America as "The Perfect Place". Everyone would be comfortably rich, would have a job, a car, a house, a pool and a family. They don't see the "other side" as I like to call it.
They are cities in the US that are as poor some in Africa. You'll never see THAT on TV though, that's for sure.
There is such a hypocricy there. Corruption is at an all-time high.
Let me tell everyone this: If the people knew, what their beloved President did, I swear, there would be a revolution.
Oh, and that report? It REEKS of PRO-AMERICAN NON-SENSE.
#42
Re: Nice American Article: US vs. Canada
Jan 7th, 2005
Agreed.
What I truly think is sad, is that people from other countries see America as "The Perfect Place". Everyone would be comfortably rich, would have a job, a car, a house, a pool and a family. They don't see the "other side" as I like to call it.
They are cities in the US that are as poor some in Africa. You'll never see THAT on TV though, that's for sure.
There is such a hypocricy there. Corruption is at an all-time high.
Let me tell everyone this: If the people knew, what their beloved President did, I swear, there would be a revolution.
Oh, and that report? It REEKS of PRO-AMERICAN NON-SENSE.
What I truly think is sad, is that people from other countries see America as "The Perfect Place". Everyone would be comfortably rich, would have a job, a car, a house, a pool and a family. They don't see the "other side" as I like to call it.
They are cities in the US that are as poor some in Africa. You'll never see THAT on TV though, that's for sure.
There is such a hypocricy there. Corruption is at an all-time high.
Let me tell everyone this: If the people knew, what their beloved President did, I swear, there would be a revolution.
Oh, and that report? It REEKS of PRO-AMERICAN NON-SENSE.
#43
RE: Nice American Article: US vs. Canada
Jan 7th, 2005
Actually Canada is probably the best country to live in if you are poor, on the planet that is.
#44
RE: Nice American Article: US vs. Canada
Jan 7th, 2005
Actually Canada is probably the best country to live in if you are poor, on the planet that is.
#45
RE: Nice American Article: US vs. Canada
Jan 7th, 2005
Actually Canada is probably the best country to live in if you are poor, on the planet that is.
Conservative
#46
RE: Nice American Article: US vs. Canada
Jan 7th, 2005
I'm surprised by the anti-Liberal bias coming out of Alberta.When their crops didn't appear and the mad cow crisis arose,Albertans certainly took more than their share of the public purse in recompense,and still wanted more! And they have the gall to call us maritimers welfare bums!
Conservative
#47
RE: Nice American Article: US vs. Canada
Jan 7th, 2005
I'm surprised by the anti-Liberal bias coming out of Alberta.When their crops didn't appear and the mad cow crisis arose,Albertans certainly took more than their share of the public purse in recompense,and still wanted more! And they have the gall to call us maritimers welfare bums!
Conservative
#48
RE: Nice American Article: US vs. Canada
Jan 7th, 2005
I'm surprised by the anti-Liberal bias coming out of Alberta.When their crops didn't appear and the mad cow crisis arose,Albertans certainly took more than their share of the public purse in recompense,and still wanted more! And they have the gall to call us maritimers welfare bums!
#49
RE: Nice American Article
Jan 7th, 2005
I always find Alberta politics hilarious. Before the Leduc oil strike they were a have not province. The CCF was officially put together at a meeting in Calgary. They were as far left as Saskatchewan ever was...further actually because their farmland wasn't as good and they were even poorer. They wanted federal support for everything and they wanted new government programs.
Then they won what amounts to a lottery...it isn't like they did anything to make that oil be there, after all...and they became like a spoiled rich kid without the manners to share or the discipline to know that they are rude and obnoxious.
Then they won what amounts to a lottery...it isn't like they did anything to make that oil be there, after all...and they became like a spoiled rich kid without the manners to share or the discipline to know that they are rude and obnoxious.
#50
RE: Nice American Article
Jan 7th, 2005
I always find Alberta politics hilarious. Before the Leduc oil strike they were a have not province. The CCF was officially put together at a meeting in Calgary. They were as far left as Saskatchewan ever was...further actually because their farmland wasn't as good and they were even poorer. They wanted federal support for everything and they wanted new government programs.
Then they won what amounts to a lottery...it isn't like they did anything to make that oil be there, after all...and they became like a spoiled rich kid without the manners to share or the discipline to know that they are rude and obnoxious.
Then they won what amounts to a lottery...it isn't like they did anything to make that oil be there, after all...and they became like a spoiled rich kid without the manners to share or the discipline to know that they are rude and obnoxious.
#51
RE: Nice American Article
Jan 7th, 2005
I always find Alberta politics hilarious. Before the Leduc oil strike they were a have not province. The CCF was officially put together at a meeting in Calgary. They were as far left as Saskatchewan ever was...further actually because their farmland wasn't as good and they were even poorer. They wanted federal support for everything and they wanted new government programs.
Then they won what amounts to a lottery...it isn't like they did anything to make that oil be there, after all...and they became like a spoiled rich kid without the manners to share or the discipline to know that they are rude and obnoxious.
Then they won what amounts to a lottery...it isn't like they did anything to make that oil be there, after all...and they became like a spoiled rich kid without the manners to share or the discipline to know that they are rude and obnoxious.
#52
Re: RE: Nice American Article: US vs. Canada
Jan 9th, 2005Quote: Originally Posted by no1important
Thats the Standard for North America, I have several teenagers and they a money drain for sure$$$$.me neither. I am not rich put I would say middle class and comfortable. Still with buying clothes for a teen age girl and food for a teenage male I am not sure how long that will last..
Quote: Originally Posted by no1important
Most people forget one thing about America, the prosperiety under which most people live is created by the enormous size of the economy and and the synergy of the businesses. With 300 Million People compared to Canada's 32 Million, our net worth is a collective of the Synergy. Our access to personal credit, the milder climate creates longer working days and the sun Belt is propped up agri business. I think it is just more "pro american" propaganda that the American government constantly feeds it people.(from the day they are born, I would say).
Quote: Originally Posted by no1important
But does it help you not be poor? What about job training, educational credit for college and university, and personal skills.I guess if I was poor I would rather be in Canada as we do have a good safety net, for those who chose to use it. ).
Quote: Originally Posted by no1important
The image of America is what you see on TV! Hollywood is not AMERIKA, you need to travel throughout the US to understand it truly. We really don't care about the rest of the world and would hope they would just go away but the real truth is that everybody, no, make that a little more than a few, people dream about coming to Aamerica! HOLLYWOOD AND TV AIN"T AMERIKA! America is more concerned about the "almighty dollar" and trying to change the world to its beliefs.
Canada actually looks after its citizens. Its not perfect but it is much better than what they have in America.
Quote: Originally Posted by no1important
You really don't know jack about the US and its social programs do you, only what you have been told on CBC? Our social programs are more generous than Canada's could ever afford! My son is Mentally retarded with Epilepsy and he recieves FREE MEDICINE (over $800 a month, free doctor visits, free hospital and a monthly stipend of $700 a month while living at home. All it would take is one long hospital in the USA to make anyone poor again unless you are rich. There health plans are a joke. Even with coverage they still pay through the nose.
So yes I will take Canada's "social programs" over the American one.
Do lower income Americans get Baby Bonus(child tax credit) or an equivalent of GST cheques or access to world class health care (even with its problems)no.
My health plan has it draw backs and it costs money for both me and my employer but it covers everything except a $20.00 co-pay which is there to stop frivilous visits to the Doctor.
My daughter was visiting her aunt in Canada and broke her foot, the hospital would not fix it until $500.00 was paid! I gave them a Credit Card over the Phone and called my insurance carrier which informed the hospital all charges would be covered!
In the United States it is illegal for a hospital to ask for payment before treatment (HILL-BURTON LAW)! They must treat you then ask for payment! Everybody making under $25,000 is covered by medicare and treatment is free, so the poor have safety nets here, ours differ on how they operate.
There are 2 MRI machines in the Province of New Brunswick and Nova Scotia! This summer on my visit to see family in the Maritimes, my wife who is a nurse was shocked to find this out! There are 2 MRI machines in our Parish (County) here in Louisiana! Population of 130,000 people! I have heard horror stories out of the Canadien System as well as the American Sytem, its something that has to be worked on I agree.
As far as tax credits, each family gets a $1000 credit off their income tax for each child, a $3,000.00 off each person in the household and if you income with children is under $25,000 per year, an instant tax rebate/payment of $2,000 per child! You need to bone up on US tax Law! Also our tax rate is 10% on the first $20,000 (after exemptions), 15% on the next 40,000 and 28% after that up to $200,000 per yer income and then it increases to 39.6% after that!
Quote: Originally Posted by no1important
America unfriendly? You don't know Jack about our discrimination Laws and how they work! You can not discriminate against anyone or else you could be facing a civil or criminal penalty with upto 2 years in jail for violation of civil rights! The majority in the US might not want Gay Marriage, but we have more gays in Mississippi than you have in Saskatchewan! Our largest recreational camp here in the South is a place run by Lesbians and called "Sister Spirit"!!!! Your ignorance overwhelms me, you must keep listing to the anti-american BS from CBC, we get it here in Louisiana since our French News comes from Montreal! America is slowly becoming a two class society rich and poor. And you will need "W"'s god to help you if you are poor in america.
Plus Canada welcomes and accepts people who are diferent(race, sexual orientation etc) unlike America, and its anti muslim, anti gay tirade they are on now.
Take a trip, explore, learn and experience the cultural enlightenment of finding out the US is not the dark hole of Calcutta, only we want you to keep believing that so every one WILL NOT WANT TO COME HERE! [/quote]
#53
Re: RE: Nice American Article: US vs. Canada
Jan 9th, 2005Quote: Originally Posted by no1important
Thats the Standard for North America, I have several teenagers and they a money drain for sure$$$$.me neither. I am not rich put I would say middle class and comfortable. Still with buying clothes for a teen age girl and food for a teenage male I am not sure how long that will last..
Quote: Originally Posted by no1important
Most people forget one thing about America, the prosperiety under which most people live is created by the enormous size of the economy and and the synergy of the businesses. With 300 Million People compared to Canada's 32 Million, our net worth is a collective of the Synergy. Our access to personal credit, the milder climate creates longer working days and the sun Belt is propped up agri business. I think it is just more "pro american" propaganda that the American government constantly feeds it people.(from the day they are born, I would say).
Quote: Originally Posted by no1important
But does it help you not be poor? What about job training, educational credit for college and university, and personal skills.I guess if I was poor I would rather be in Canada as we do have a good safety net, for those who chose to use it. ).
Quote: Originally Posted by no1important
The image of America is what you see on TV! Hollywood is not AMERIKA, you need to travel throughout the US to understand it truly. We really don't care about the rest of the world and would hope they would just go away but the real truth is that everybody, no, make that a little more than a few, people dream about coming to Aamerica! HOLLYWOOD AND TV AIN"T AMERIKA! America is more concerned about the "almighty dollar" and trying to change the world to its beliefs.
Canada actually looks after its citizens. Its not perfect but it is much better than what they have in America.
Quote: Originally Posted by no1important
You really don't know jack about the US and its social programs do you, only what you have been told on CBC? Our social programs are more generous than Canada's could ever afford! My son is Mentally retarded with Epilepsy and he recieves FREE MEDICINE (over $800 a month, free doctor visits, free hospital and a monthly stipend of $700 a month while living at home. All it would take is one long hospital in the USA to make anyone poor again unless you are rich. There health plans are a joke. Even with coverage they still pay through the nose.
So yes I will take Canada's "social programs" over the American one.
Do lower income Americans get Baby Bonus(child tax credit) or an equivalent of GST cheques or access to world class health care (even with its problems)no.
My health plan has it draw backs and it costs money for both me and my employer but it covers everything except a $20.00 co-pay which is there to stop frivilous visits to the Doctor.
My daughter was visiting her aunt in Canada and broke her foot, the hospital would not fix it until $500.00 was paid! I gave them a Credit Card over the Phone and called my insurance carrier which informed the hospital all charges would be covered!
In the United States it is illegal for a hospital to ask for payment before treatment (HILL-BURTON LAW)! They must treat you then ask for payment! Everybody making under $25,000 is covered by medicare and treatment is free, so the poor have safety nets here, ours differ on how they operate.
There are 2 MRI machines in the Province of New Brunswick and Nova Scotia! This summer on my visit to see family in the Maritimes, my wife who is a nurse was shocked to find this out! There are 2 MRI machines in our Parish (County) here in Louisiana! Population of 130,000 people! I have heard horror stories out of the Canadien System as well as the American Sytem, its something that has to be worked on I agree.
As far as tax credits, each family gets a $1000 credit off their income tax for each child, a $3,000.00 off each person in the household and if you income with children is under $25,000 per year, an instant tax rebate/payment of $2,000 per child! You need to bone up on US tax Law! Also our tax rate is 10% on the first $20,000 (after exemptions), 15% on the next 40,000 and 28% after that up to $200,000 per yer income and then it increases to 39.6% after that!
Quote: Originally Posted by no1important
America unfriendly? You don't know Jack about our discrimination Laws and how they work! You can not discriminate against anyone or else you could be facing a civil or criminal penalty with upto 2 years in jail for violation of civil rights! The majority in the US might not want Gay Marriage, but we have more gays in Mississippi than you have in Saskatchewan! Our largest recreational camp here in the South is a place run by Lesbians and called "Sister Spirit"!!!! Your ignorance overwhelms me, you must keep listing to the anti-american BS from CBC, we get it here in Louisiana since our French News comes from Montreal! America is slowly becoming a two class society rich and poor. And you will need "W"'s god to help you if you are poor in america.
Plus Canada welcomes and accepts people who are diferent(race, sexual orientation etc) unlike America, and its anti muslim, anti gay tirade they are on now.
Take a trip, explore, learn and experience the cultural enlightenment of finding out the US is not the dark hole of Calcutta, only we want you to keep believing that so every one WILL NOT WANT TO COME HERE! [/quote]
#54
Re: RE: Nice American Article: US vs. Canada
Jan 9th, 2005Quote: Originally Posted by no1important
Thats the Standard for North America, I have several teenagers and they a money drain for sure$$$$.me neither. I am not rich put I would say middle class and comfortable. Still with buying clothes for a teen age girl and food for a teenage male I am not sure how long that will last..
Quote: Originally Posted by no1important
Most people forget one thing about America, the prosperiety under which most people live is created by the enormous size of the economy and and the synergy of the businesses. With 300 Million People compared to Canada's 32 Million, our net worth is a collective of the Synergy. Our access to personal credit, the milder climate creates longer working days and the sun Belt is propped up agri business. I think it is just more "pro american" propaganda that the American government constantly feeds it people.(from the day they are born, I would say).
Quote: Originally Posted by no1important
But does it help you not be poor? What about job training, educational credit for college and university, and personal skills.I guess if I was poor I would rather be in Canada as we do have a good safety net, for those who chose to use it. ).
Quote: Originally Posted by no1important
The image of America is what you see on TV! Hollywood is not AMERIKA, you need to travel throughout the US to understand it truly. We really don't care about the rest of the world and would hope they would just go away but the real truth is that everybody, no, make that a little more than a few, people dream about coming to Aamerica! HOLLYWOOD AND TV AIN"T AMERIKA! America is more concerned about the "almighty dollar" and trying to change the world to its beliefs.
Canada actually looks after its citizens. Its not perfect but it is much better than what they have in America.
Quote: Originally Posted by no1important
You really don't know jack about the US and its social programs do you, only what you have been told on CBC? Our social programs are more generous than Canada's could ever afford! My son is Mentally retarded with Epilepsy and he recieves FREE MEDICINE (over $800 a month, free doctor visits, free hospital and a monthly stipend of $700 a month while living at home. All it would take is one long hospital in the USA to make anyone poor again unless you are rich. There health plans are a joke. Even with coverage they still pay through the nose.
So yes I will take Canada's "social programs" over the American one.
Do lower income Americans get Baby Bonus(child tax credit) or an equivalent of GST cheques or access to world class health care (even with its problems)no.
My health plan has it draw backs and it costs money for both me and my employer but it covers everything except a $20.00 co-pay which is there to stop frivilous visits to the Doctor.
My daughter was visiting her aunt in Canada and broke her foot, the hospital would not fix it until $500.00 was paid! I gave them a Credit Card over the Phone and called my insurance carrier which informed the hospital all charges would be covered!
In the United States it is illegal for a hospital to ask for payment before treatment (HILL-BURTON LAW)! They must treat you then ask for payment! Everybody making under $25,000 is covered by medicare and treatment is free, so the poor have safety nets here, ours differ on how they operate.
There are 2 MRI machines in the Province of New Brunswick and Nova Scotia! This summer on my visit to see family in the Maritimes, my wife who is a nurse was shocked to find this out! There are 2 MRI machines in our Parish (County) here in Louisiana! Population of 130,000 people! I have heard horror stories out of the Canadien System as well as the American Sytem, its something that has to be worked on I agree.
As far as tax credits, each family gets a $1000 credit off their income tax for each child, a $3,000.00 off each person in the household and if you income with children is under $25,000 per year, an instant tax rebate/payment of $2,000 per child! You need to bone up on US tax Law! Also our tax rate is 10% on the first $20,000 (after exemptions), 15% on the next 40,000 and 28% after that up to $200,000 per yer income and then it increases to 39.6% after that!
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America unfriendly? You don't know Jack about our discrimination Laws and how they work! You can not discriminate against anyone or else you could be facing a civil or criminal penalty with upto 2 years in jail for violation of civil rights! The majority in the US might not want Gay Marriage, but we have more gays in Mississippi than you have in Saskatchewan! Our largest recreational camp here in the South is a place run by Lesbians and called "Sister Spirit"!!!! Your ignorance overwhelms me, you must keep listing to the anti-american BS from CBC, we get it here in Louisiana since our French News comes from Montreal! America is slowly becoming a two class society rich and poor. And you will need "W"'s god to help you if you are poor in america.
Plus Canada welcomes and accepts people who are diferent(race, sexual orientation etc) unlike America, and its anti muslim, anti gay tirade they are on now.
Take a trip, explore, learn and experience the cultural enlightenment of finding out the US is not the dark hole of Calcutta, only we want you to keep believing that so every one WILL NOT WANT TO COME HERE! [/quote]
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