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January 30th, 2003, 09:28 AM
With Dubya that moron of the south pandering for support for his illegal war comes the news that they are going to once again screw their closest neighbor and soon to be former ally.
U.S. Congress threatens to double softwood duty
with a file from Dan Rowe
Canadian Press
Thursday, January 30, 2003
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TORONTO -- The U.S. Congress has dramatically raised the stakes in the cross-border lumber trade feud by introducing legislation that could nearly double the duties on Canadian exports to the United States.
The proposed legislation, which surfaced a day before a key summit of industry officials in Washington, would push the U.S. duties to as high as 45 per cent from 27 per cent on roughly $10 billion worth of Canadian softwood lumber.
This is merely the latest pressure tactic in a struggle the Americans are losing, said Steve Crombie, the director of public affairs for Interfor, a B.C.-based lumber firm.
U.S. Senator Larry Craig insisted the law is desperately needed because Ottawa and Canadian lumber companies are cheating on the duty regime and flooding the U.S. market with cheap wood, the Globe and Mail's Web site reported.
"Recent blatant moves by the Canadian government and timber industry reveal their true desires to continue to flood the U.S. market with softwood lumber and their unwillingness to find a resolution that provides security for both U.S. and Canadian jobs," said Craig, co-sponsor of the Senate version of the bill.
A matching bill is also being introduced in the U.S. House of Representatives in what appears to be an orchestrated attempt to ratchet up the pressure on Canada to negotiate a quick end to the long-running dispute.
"I don't have a clue what he's talking about. All of the forest companies, at least in B.C., have all been working hard to cope with the duties." Crombie said.
The bills, which appear to have broad Republican and Democratic support, come as Canadian and U.S. lumber executives are due to meet top Bush administration officials Friday in Washington to explore a possible settlement.
Craig acknowledged the move is at least partly aimed at getting Canada back to the negotiating table.
"The timing is not very good. I don't know why the senator has chosen to make a move like this at this time," Crombie said.
"Going down to Washington, on our part, shows a great deal of goodwill."
Crombie said that if duties were raised to 45 per cent, some companies would have to consider not doing business in the United States.
Sebastien Theberge, Trade Minister Pierre Pettigrew's press secretary, suggested the U.S. lumber industry is worried and is "looking for ways to increase the price of wood because the duties have backfired."
A large chunk of the Canadian industry, including producers in Quebec and Ontario, has so far shown little interest in U.S. calls for sweeping reforms of Canadian forest practices. They have been pushing Ottawa to continue pursuing World Trade Organization and North American Free Trade Agreement challenges instead of settling out of court.
© Copyright 2003 Vancouver Sun
With Dubya that moron of the south pandering for support for his illegal war comes the news that they are going to once again screw their closest neighbor and soon to be former ally.
U.S. Congress threatens to double softwood duty
with a file from Dan Rowe
Canadian Press
Thursday, January 30, 2003
ADVERTISEMENT
TORONTO -- The U.S. Congress has dramatically raised the stakes in the cross-border lumber trade feud by introducing legislation that could nearly double the duties on Canadian exports to the United States.
The proposed legislation, which surfaced a day before a key summit of industry officials in Washington, would push the U.S. duties to as high as 45 per cent from 27 per cent on roughly $10 billion worth of Canadian softwood lumber.
This is merely the latest pressure tactic in a struggle the Americans are losing, said Steve Crombie, the director of public affairs for Interfor, a B.C.-based lumber firm.
U.S. Senator Larry Craig insisted the law is desperately needed because Ottawa and Canadian lumber companies are cheating on the duty regime and flooding the U.S. market with cheap wood, the Globe and Mail's Web site reported.
"Recent blatant moves by the Canadian government and timber industry reveal their true desires to continue to flood the U.S. market with softwood lumber and their unwillingness to find a resolution that provides security for both U.S. and Canadian jobs," said Craig, co-sponsor of the Senate version of the bill.
A matching bill is also being introduced in the U.S. House of Representatives in what appears to be an orchestrated attempt to ratchet up the pressure on Canada to negotiate a quick end to the long-running dispute.
"I don't have a clue what he's talking about. All of the forest companies, at least in B.C., have all been working hard to cope with the duties." Crombie said.
The bills, which appear to have broad Republican and Democratic support, come as Canadian and U.S. lumber executives are due to meet top Bush administration officials Friday in Washington to explore a possible settlement.
Craig acknowledged the move is at least partly aimed at getting Canada back to the negotiating table.
"The timing is not very good. I don't know why the senator has chosen to make a move like this at this time," Crombie said.
"Going down to Washington, on our part, shows a great deal of goodwill."
Crombie said that if duties were raised to 45 per cent, some companies would have to consider not doing business in the United States.
Sebastien Theberge, Trade Minister Pierre Pettigrew's press secretary, suggested the U.S. lumber industry is worried and is "looking for ways to increase the price of wood because the duties have backfired."
A large chunk of the Canadian industry, including producers in Quebec and Ontario, has so far shown little interest in U.S. calls for sweeping reforms of Canadian forest practices. They have been pushing Ottawa to continue pursuing World Trade Organization and North American Free Trade Agreement challenges instead of settling out of court.
© Copyright 2003 Vancouver Sun
January 30th, 2003, 01:14 PM
Welcome back czardogs!
We've been stabbed in the back countless times since Bush came into power.. And they EXPECT US to aid them with the war on terrorism and this war on Iraq.
Personally, I don't think that's how you're supposed to treat a 'friend'. "Our friends to the north" is simply a false statement.. They use us, and they abuse us.
The softwood lumber dispute is just another example of this, and it's illegal.. Our government hasn't done as much as it can to help either.
Welcome back czardogs!
We've been stabbed in the back countless times since Bush came into power.. And they EXPECT US to aid them with the war on terrorism and this war on Iraq.
Personally, I don't think that's how you're supposed to treat a 'friend'. "Our friends to the north" is simply a false statement.. They use us, and they abuse us.
The softwood lumber dispute is just another example of this, and it's illegal.. Our government hasn't done as much as it can to help either.
January 30th, 2003, 02:10 PM
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We might as well become a 51st american state. They control us fully. Politically, financially! and they control our public opinion. What else do they need to do? They control our exports and imports... Everything, guys.
With Dubya that moron of the south pandering for support for his illegal war comes the news that they are going to once again screw their closest neighbor and soon to be former ally.
U.S. Congress threatens to double softwood duty
with a file from Dan Rowe
Canadian Press
Thursday, January 30, 2003
ADVERTISEMENT
TORONTO -- The U.S. Congress has dramatically raised the stakes in the cross-border lumber trade feud by introducing legislation that could nearly double the duties on Canadian exports to the United States.
The proposed legislation, which surfaced a day before a key summit of industry officials in Washington, would push the U.S. duties to as high as 45 per cent from 27 per cent on roughly $10 billion worth of Canadian softwood lumber.
This is merely the latest pressure tactic in a struggle the Americans are losing, said Steve Crombie, the director of public affairs for Interfor, a B.C.-based lumber firm.
U.S. Senator Larry Craig insisted the law is desperately needed because Ottawa and Canadian lumber companies are cheating on the duty regime and flooding the U.S. market with cheap wood, the Globe and Mail's Web site reported.
"Recent blatant moves by the Canadian government and timber industry reveal their true desires to continue to flood the U.S. market with softwood lumber and their unwillingness to find a resolution that provides security for both U.S. and Canadian jobs," said Craig, co-sponsor of the Senate version of the bill.
A matching bill is also being introduced in the U.S. House of Representatives in what appears to be an orchestrated attempt to ratchet up the pressure on Canada to negotiate a quick end to the long-running dispute.
"I don't have a clue what he's talking about. All of the forest companies, at least in B.C., have all been working hard to cope with the duties." Crombie said.
The bills, which appear to have broad Republican and Democratic support, come as Canadian and U.S. lumber executives are due to meet top Bush administration officials Friday in Washington to explore a possible settlement.
Craig acknowledged the move is at least partly aimed at getting Canada back to the negotiating table.
"The timing is not very good. I don't know why the senator has chosen to make a move like this at this time," Crombie said.
"Going down to Washington, on our part, shows a great deal of goodwill."
Crombie said that if duties were raised to 45 per cent, some companies would have to consider not doing business in the United States.
Sebastien Theberge, Trade Minister Pierre Pettigrew's press secretary, suggested the U.S. lumber industry is worried and is "looking for ways to increase the price of wood because the duties have backfired."
A large chunk of the Canadian industry, including producers in Quebec and Ontario, has so far shown little interest in U.S. calls for sweeping reforms of Canadian forest practices. They have been pushing Ottawa to continue pursuing World Trade Organization and North American Free Trade Agreement challenges instead of settling out of court.
© Copyright 2003 Vancouver Sun
U.S. Congress threatens to double softwood duty
with a file from Dan Rowe
Canadian Press
Thursday, January 30, 2003
ADVERTISEMENT
TORONTO -- The U.S. Congress has dramatically raised the stakes in the cross-border lumber trade feud by introducing legislation that could nearly double the duties on Canadian exports to the United States.
The proposed legislation, which surfaced a day before a key summit of industry officials in Washington, would push the U.S. duties to as high as 45 per cent from 27 per cent on roughly $10 billion worth of Canadian softwood lumber.
This is merely the latest pressure tactic in a struggle the Americans are losing, said Steve Crombie, the director of public affairs for Interfor, a B.C.-based lumber firm.
U.S. Senator Larry Craig insisted the law is desperately needed because Ottawa and Canadian lumber companies are cheating on the duty regime and flooding the U.S. market with cheap wood, the Globe and Mail's Web site reported.
"Recent blatant moves by the Canadian government and timber industry reveal their true desires to continue to flood the U.S. market with softwood lumber and their unwillingness to find a resolution that provides security for both U.S. and Canadian jobs," said Craig, co-sponsor of the Senate version of the bill.
A matching bill is also being introduced in the U.S. House of Representatives in what appears to be an orchestrated attempt to ratchet up the pressure on Canada to negotiate a quick end to the long-running dispute.
"I don't have a clue what he's talking about. All of the forest companies, at least in B.C., have all been working hard to cope with the duties." Crombie said.
The bills, which appear to have broad Republican and Democratic support, come as Canadian and U.S. lumber executives are due to meet top Bush administration officials Friday in Washington to explore a possible settlement.
Craig acknowledged the move is at least partly aimed at getting Canada back to the negotiating table.
"The timing is not very good. I don't know why the senator has chosen to make a move like this at this time," Crombie said.
"Going down to Washington, on our part, shows a great deal of goodwill."
Crombie said that if duties were raised to 45 per cent, some companies would have to consider not doing business in the United States.
Sebastien Theberge, Trade Minister Pierre Pettigrew's press secretary, suggested the U.S. lumber industry is worried and is "looking for ways to increase the price of wood because the duties have backfired."
A large chunk of the Canadian industry, including producers in Quebec and Ontario, has so far shown little interest in U.S. calls for sweeping reforms of Canadian forest practices. They have been pushing Ottawa to continue pursuing World Trade Organization and North American Free Trade Agreement challenges instead of settling out of court.
© Copyright 2003 Vancouver Sun
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Location: BC
Location: BC
February 4th, 2003, 09:42 AM
I think to many Canadians have been conned into thinking that any move on our part to stand up for ourselves would bring harsher responses from the American heirachy.
While I can see the justification for their belief it does not ring true when exploring the issue just a little deeper.
Lets remember America the land of the free and the right to screw your neighbor into poverty to get rich, is a capitalist at all costs nation. Any price increase of goods and products spells inflation. Money men down south hate inflation. Thats why they constantly play with the money supply and interest rates.
If they were to play hard ball with us they would just strangle themselves when the prices of all goods rise beyond the threshold they are ready to accept and fellow Canadians, the America market is fussy. It will not tolerate even a modest rise in the price of goods and services of which so much comes from us in the Great White North.
So to sum up, we have nothing to be afraid of when stepping back when stepped on. After all its Canadas way not to pick fights but to finish them when nobody else can.
I think to many Canadians have been conned into thinking that any move on our part to stand up for ourselves would bring harsher responses from the American heirachy.
While I can see the justification for their belief it does not ring true when exploring the issue just a little deeper.
Lets remember America the land of the free and the right to screw your neighbor into poverty to get rich, is a capitalist at all costs nation. Any price increase of goods and products spells inflation. Money men down south hate inflation. Thats why they constantly play with the money supply and interest rates.
If they were to play hard ball with us they would just strangle themselves when the prices of all goods rise beyond the threshold they are ready to accept and fellow Canadians, the America market is fussy. It will not tolerate even a modest rise in the price of goods and services of which so much comes from us in the Great White North.
So to sum up, we have nothing to be afraid of when stepping back when stepped on. After all its Canadas way not to pick fights but to finish them when nobody else can.
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Posts: 234
Location: BC
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February 9th, 2003, 03:19 PM
Boycott American brands and television. Dont shop at Walmart and McDonalds etc. Nothing gets their attention faster than a dip in profits!!
Nafta can be abrogated with six months notice. But be aware that our traitorous Federal Government is trying to entrench the National Treatment clause into the agreement. From there we are pretty much screwed until a government is formed with enough balls to do away with the deal all together.
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Start by buying Canadian. Demand your local retailers to stock more Canadian products.
Arrrrrrgggggghhhh!!! Why did we have mulroney voted in years back.
How will we withdrawl from the NAFTA and how will we get the american control away from our media, our industry, consumer products, etc?
How will we withdrawl from the NAFTA and how will we get the american control away from our media, our industry, consumer products, etc?
Boycott American brands and television. Dont shop at Walmart and McDonalds etc. Nothing gets their attention faster than a dip in profits!!
Nafta can be abrogated with six months notice. But be aware that our traitorous Federal Government is trying to entrench the National Treatment clause into the agreement. From there we are pretty much screwed until a government is formed with enough balls to do away with the deal all together.
February 10th, 2003, 12:37 PM
It makes me wonder who our government really is. Are they true capitalists, or americans in disguise. Why would they ever want to entrench us in such a position to give away our sovereignty. I don't blame Quebec for wanted to seperate, they have good reason with the way our feds treat citizens (and lack thereof) and even their treatment of foreigners is higher rate than citizens.
It makes me wonder who our government really is. Are they true capitalists, or americans in disguise. Why would they ever want to entrench us in such a position to give away our sovereignty. I don't blame Quebec for wanted to seperate, they have good reason with the way our feds treat citizens (and lack thereof) and even their treatment of foreigners is higher rate than citizens.
