Trudeau’s carbon tax is all about ideology, not the climate or Canadian interests

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Donald Trump’s surprise election has caused pundits, media and leaders in government and industry around the world to revisit their ideas and analysis. Everyone, that is, except for Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, who continues to call for a national carbon tax even if it puts Canada’s economy at a major disadvantage. The cost of this ideological rigidity will be in the form of less growth, investment and jobs here in Canada. It is time therefore for a climate policy that is rooted in reality rather than ideology.

Ensuring that Canada’s climate policy is harmonized or at least cognizant of the American policy is hardly an endorsement of President-elect Trump. There is plenty that Trudeau may dislike about Trump’s politics, policy and character. But personal feelings should not cloud the government’s understanding and pursuit of Canada’s national interest. Doing so would be the antithesis of evidence-based policy that the prime minister and his team regularly purport to care about.

Canada needs a climate change policy that balances the trade-offs between environmental and economic goals and creates the conditions for innovation and new technologies to help address the climate change challenge.

That carbon taxes impose costs on the economy is not a matter of debate. As the International Monetary Fund has put it: “the macroeconomic consequences of policies to abate climate change can be immediate and wide-ranging, particularly when these policies are not designed carefully.” The shorthand is this: If our climate-change policy is poorly conceived, Canada’s economy could be seriously harmed.

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Andrew Saxton: Trudeau’s carbon tax is all about ideology, not the climate or Canadian interests | Financial Post
 

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Oh good, another thread on carbon taxes.........

 

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oh good, another forum critic.

why don't you and ludlum volunteer to be moderators and help it become great again. :lol:
 

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why don't you and ludlum volunteer to be moderators and help it become great again. :lol:

I'd volunteer, but Mentalfloss would get his wrists slapped everytime he posts a retarded Title with a news link.
 

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One has to asked why us? China, US, etc.. have much higher emissions than Canada can ever reach, and no one has a forced down your throat 'carbon tax'. Why would I ever want to pay $10 + dollar more on gas, or give Ottawa over $ 2,000/years more in tax!! God knows I already pay enough in hydro and food, this tax is going to increase these ones for sure! I don't see how JT can justify this one. If this government with very expensive taste needs more money to give away or pay for their travel, then maybe they can host a few more "pay to access", but charge more, like maybe $ 10,000 / $20,000 per plate. Who would be unwilling to pay to secure a nice gov. contract!
 

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Donald Trump’s surprise election has caused pundits, media and leaders in government and industry around the world to revisit their ideas and analysis. Everyone, that is, except for Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, who continues to call for a national carbon tax even if it puts Canada’s economy at a major disadvantage. The cost of this ideological rigidity will be in the form of less growth, investment and jobs here in Canada. It is time therefore for a climate policy that is rooted in reality rather than ideology.

Ensuring that Canada’s climate policy is harmonized or at least cognizant of the American policy is hardly an endorsement of President-elect Trump. There is plenty that Trudeau may dislike about Trump’s politics, policy and character. But personal feelings should not cloud the government’s understanding and pursuit of Canada’s national interest. Doing so would be the antithesis of evidence-based policy that the prime minister and his team regularly purport to care about.

Canada needs a climate change policy that balances the trade-offs between environmental and economic goals and creates the conditions for innovation and new technologies to help address the climate change challenge.

That carbon taxes impose costs on the economy is not a matter of debate. As the International Monetary Fund has put it: “the macroeconomic consequences of policies to abate climate change can be immediate and wide-ranging, particularly when these policies are not designed carefully.” The shorthand is this: If our climate-change policy is poorly conceived, Canada’s economy could be seriously harmed.

mo

Andrew Saxton: Trudeau’s carbon tax is all about ideology, not the climate or Canadian interests | Financial Post

Of course Canadas economy will be seriously harmed if the policy is poorly concieved because harming the Canadian economy is the plan. That's what bloodsucking leaches do and arrange.It's got something to do with the sun. The sun is God as far as all live here on earth is concerned and gases, molecules unt atoms the concensus of the for profit science community means nothing to the numbers provided by high school physics. We can't fight that fire with money. It's a tax for suckers, rubes. Citizen consumers rise up and drive these deranged lunatics from your villages.


The planet has got colder despite the much touted modern money immune quackademic scientific last word on the subject. Food and fuel (bio mass) dependant will suffer and the best population numbers will be determined naturally. That's diabolical. And it might work.

All my hope for the peacefull conduct of this planets organisms rest in hourly prayer inviting alien invasion.
 

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Why Australia’s carbon tax bombed

When Australia repealed its carbon tax last week, environmentalists around the world rent their garments and beat their breasts. “We are taking a monumentally reckless backward leap even as other countries are stepping up to climate action,” John Connor, chief executive of Australia’s Climate Institute, told The New York Times. The Green Party’s Elizabeth May lamented that it “sends the wrong signal to the world. ”

Many economists and other experts assure us that carbon taxes are a good thing. “What do these PMs know that economists don’t?” read the headline on a Globe and Mail opinion piece by Munir Sheikh. The former Statscan chief statistician reeled off reams of numbers, chastising both Stephen Harper and Australia’s Tony Abbott for their ignorant know-nothingism.

But canny politicians know some things economists don’t. They know that a lot of people don’t like carbon taxes, and will punish governments that try to impose them.

In Australia, climate policy has been a death knell for politicians who failed to read the fickle public mood. Popular concern for the environment reached a peak back in 2006. During the 2007 election, both major parties promised tough action on the climate. Then came the recession, and people’s worries shifted elsewhere. When Julia Gillard took over as leader of the Labor Party in 2010, she solemnly swore not to impose a carbon tax. Then she formed a coalition with the Greens and promptly broke her promise. The carbon tax was introduced two years ago, and people hated it from the start. They threw the Labor Party out of office and elected Mr. Abbott, who promised to “axe the tax.”

Australia’s carbon-tax fiasco has been blamed on inept politics, public misunderstanding and design flaws – problems that are built into a lot of climate policy, as it happens. But the biggest problem was that the carbon tax drove up people’s energy bills. The tax was billed as being revenue-neutral, but people didn’t believe it. They also didn’t see why they should have to pay for climate change when their country’s output of greenhouse gasses is so small and inconsequential to the climate.

Canadian politicians – I mean you, Justin – would be smart to pay attention. Mr. Trudeau is totally gung-ho on what he calls “carbon pricing,” although what this means, or whether it is different from a “carbon tax,” is a mystery. In fact, people would probably be happy if he said he wants to tax the oil companies more. But they won’t be so happy if they think he wants to tax them.

I know, I know. B.C. has a carbon tax, and loves it! Everybody says so. British Columbians are the most enlightened people on the planet. But I’m willing to bet my SUV that most Canadians are not nearly as enlightened as they are.

This doesn’t mean that Canadians don’t care about environmental issues. They care deeply. But they care far more about oil spills, pipeline safety, polluted rivers, and real disasters in their own backyard than they do about the intangible uncertainties of global warming some time in the future.

Environmentalists worry that Australia’s carbon-tax reversal is a bad sign for world climate talks, which are set to resume a couple of months from now. But the truth is that the climate talks are already in deep trouble – not because of ignorant know-nothings like Mr. Harper and Mr. Abbott, but because voters in much of the Western world are rejecting the green agenda as too impractical and expensive. Even Barack Obama knows this. In the ideal world of economic models, carbon taxes might be great. But in the real world, they’re a loser.

Why Australia’s carbon tax bombed - The Globe and Mail

Note: The author errs in her assumption that 'B.C. has a carbon tax, and loves it!'. Just ask any of us Heartlanders or Northern folks how we feel about having had the carbon tax foisted upon us and exactly what it meant in terms of higher prices for everything from groceries to golf balls. Were it abolished tomorrow, one might possibly hear a huge roar of jubilation coming from the voices of each and every one of us.