CBC takes a $1.2B taxpayer bail-out every year

Locutus

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They use that money to slander the taxpayers' watchdog



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Remington1

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ahahahah, that is the funniest article I've read for a while. They were so bias and upset about comments people were putting about Jt on their forum, that they decided to make Canadians' display their full name on their treads! CBC is a partisanship org.
 

Danbones

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cater to funding
like every other government organ

on the other hand if you insult a name should you not provide yours?
or does one just sucker punch and run like a coward all day
(I'm Dan..who the effe are you?
 

mentalfloss

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I like CBC.

They usually have a good fix on the entire political spectrum and they don't have an agenda.

I think it's partly because they are publicly funded.
 

Remington1

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cater to funding
like every other government organ

on the other hand if you insult a name should you not provide yours?
or does one just sucker punch and run like a coward all day
(I'm Dan..who the effe are you?
This is not a magazine or an editorial where full names and identity should be provided. A public forum is a place where people have the option to be nice or not so nice anonymously, isn't that the purpose? Is it good practice? In my opinion, yes of course, it's a choice to partake in these forum.
 

Machjo

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I like CBC.

They usually have a good fix on the entire political spectrum and they don't have an agenda.

I think it's partly because they are publicly funded.

I like the CBC too, but not enough to support public funding for it. Also, I've come across objective journalism in the private sector too. If you look for it, you'll find that the public sector does not hold a monopoly on objective journalism.
 

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I like the CBC too, but not enough to support public funding for it. Also, I've come across objective journalism in the private sector too. If you look for it, you'll find that the public sector does not hold a monopoly on objective journalism.

He just says stuff like that to get a rise out of the crowd. I seriously doubt he understands much of what is posted here. I had students like him. They thought they were being so cool, or naughty, posting anonymously to websites and being contrary. Meh, kids.

WRT the CBC, the original purpose of the funding started in a time when huge antenna networks and miles of cables were required to ensure remote parts of the country received radio signals. This is no longer the case.

The CBC and various committees have tried to adapt the mandate, saying that the CBC represents a "uniquely Canadian" point of view, but that isn't the case either. In a global village, especially living so close to the US, our "uniqueness", if we ever had any to begin with, is disappearing.

WE are about 3/4 of the way along in the Americanization of the Canada. It's no plot, or evil scheme perpetrated by the US or the Illuminati. It's called, Modern music, television, moves and tech. Computers and the Internets.

The UK is becoming an Islamic state. We are becoming Americans. Given the choice between the two, I'll take the States.
 

Locutus

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I like CBC.

They usually have a good fix on the entire political spectrum and they don't have an agenda.

I think it's partly because they are publicly funded.


and that's why you're the most simple-minded cuck on this forum.

your problem could be naivete or mental illness.

not really that important, just trying to help you out.

anyway, you're a handy example of how not-to-be.
 

JamesBondo

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The CBC has been commissioned to provide specific services to Canada, such as the weather/emeregency alert system. I support the public fundin of such services.

In fact, ì'm disappointed that they pulled the plug on the radio canada worldwide shortwave radio service.
 

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The CBC has been commissioned to provide specific services to Canada, such as the weather/emeregency alert system. I support the public fundin of such services.

In fact, ì'm disappointed that they pulled the plug on the radio canada worldwide shortwave radio service.

I have no issue with emergency services. It's the other 99% of their budget that ticks me off. We listen to governments complain about deficits, and then watch them throw over one billion dollars away on fluff.

We have satellite television and radio now. Technology has advanced. Being able to provide Canadian news and services is not necessary from a national radio and television service.

We have television, movie and radio production companies now that can provide Canadian content to the country. The CBC mandate is about 40 years out of date. But, once you have allocated funds to a particular government supported entity, it is very difficult to pull the plug.
 

Machjo

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He just says stuff like that to get a rise out of the crowd. I seriously doubt he understands much of what is posted here. I had students like him. They thought they were being so cool, or naughty, posting anonymously to websites and being contrary. Meh, kids.

WRT the CBC, the original purpose of the funding started in a time when huge antenna networks and miles of cables were required to ensure remote parts of the country received radio signals. This is no longer the case.

The CBC and various committees have tried to adapt the mandate, saying that the CBC represents a "uniquely Canadian" point of view, but that isn't the case either. In a global village, especially living so close to the US, our "uniqueness", if we ever had any to begin with, is disappearing.

WE are about 3/4 of the way along in the Americanization of the Canada. It's no plot, or evil scheme perpetrated by the US or the Illuminati. It's called, Modern music, television, moves and tech. Computers and the Internets.

The UK is becoming an Islamic state. We are becoming Americans. Given the choice between the two, I'll take the States.

Here's what I think could make public media funding relevant again:

Fund sign-language media or local-indigenous-language media that cannot survive without public funding. In all honesty, what's the point of funding media that could survive in some form without public funding? If you look at the CBC, it's similar enough to CTV that if you cut funding to it and let it operate like CTV, it might survive in some form, even if only as an amalgamation with CTV. But it would survive. Sign-language media wouldn't stand a chance. Same with media in the local indigenous language and so public funding would not be redundant.

Another possibility would be to redirect some public media funding towards Braille books for public libraries for the blind.
 
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Here's what I think could make public media funding relevant again:

...In all honesty, what's the point of funding media that could survive in some form without public funding? If you look at the CBC, it's similar enough to CTV that if you cut funding to it and let it operate like CTV, it might survive in some form, even if only as an amalgamation with CTV. But it would survive...

Exactly. This isn't the 1930s anymore.

The CBC gets that 1.2 billion, plus they sell advertising. The CBC has outlived its purpose. Here's their mandate.

"...the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation, as the national public broadcaster, should provide radio and television services incorporating a wide range of programming that informs, enlightens and entertains;

...the programming provided by the Corporation should:

i. be predominantly and distinctively Canadian, reflect Canada and its regions to national and regional audiences, while serving the special needs of those regions,

ii. actively contribute to the flow and exchange of cultural expression,

iii. be in English and in French, reflecting the different needs and circumstances of each official language community, including the particular needs and circumstances of English and French linguistic minorities,

iv. strive to be of equivalent quality in English and French,

v. contribute to shared national consciousness and identity,

vi. be made available throughout Canada by the most appropriate and efficient means and as resources become available for the purpose, and

vii. reflect the multicultural and multiracial nature of Canada."


www.cbc.radio-canada.ca/en/explore/mandate
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Do we need to protect "the Canadian identity"? Is it so fragile that the government needs to defend it?

Do we need an agency to provide French, English and other ethnic programming? It seems that Italian, Chinese, indigenous and other programming is alive and well without the CBC. This might have been necessary in the first half of the 20th century, but isn't a concern now.

Gay, religious, ethnic programming, etc. are doing quite well outside of the CBC.

Or is the CBC merely a place for otherwise unemployable Canadian artists and media types, who are so insecure that they must feed at the public teat?
 

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iii. be in English and in French, reflecting the different needs and circumstances of each official language community, including the particular needs and circumstances of English and French linguistic minorities,


This is what makes it redundant. English and French are the most-covered languages in private-sector media, making the CBC totally and utterly redundant. Again, sign-language media might have a more difficult time surviving without public funding. Same with indigenous-language media. But French and English are very well entrenched in the private sector so no need for it in the public sector.
 

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Exactly. This isn't the 1930s anymore.

The CBC gets that 1.2 billion, plus they sell advertising. The CBC has outlived its purpose. Here's their mandate.

"...the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation, as the national public broadcaster, should provide radio and television services incorporating a wide range of programming that informs, enlightens and entertains;

...the programming provided by the Corporation should:

i. be predominantly and distinctively Canadian, reflect Canada and its regions to national and regional audiences, while serving the special needs of those regions,

ii. actively contribute to the flow and exchange of cultural expression,

iii. be in English and in French, reflecting the different needs and circumstances of each official language community, including the particular needs and circumstances of English and French linguistic minorities,

iv. strive to be of equivalent quality in English and French,

v. contribute to shared national consciousness and identity,

vi. be made available throughout Canada by the most appropriate and efficient means and as resources become available for the purpose, and

vii. reflect the multicultural and multiracial nature of Canada."


Mandate
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Do we need to protect "the Canadian identity"? Is it so fragile that the government needs to defend it?

Do we need an agency to provide French, English and other ethnic programming? It seems that Italian, Chinese, indigenous and other programming is alive and well without the CBC. This might have been necessary in the first half of the 20th century, but isn't a concern now.

Gay, religious, ethnic programming, etc. are doing quite well outside of the CBC.

Or is the CBC merely a place for otherwise unemployable Canadian artists and media types, who are so insecure that they must feed at the public teat?
I think it is where the new journalists go to finish their indoctrination before venturing forth into the private section . I mean CTV , Global , the NP the Globe and mail are all full of ex CBC people and they all refer to it as the Mother Corp .
 

Machjo

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I think it is where the new journalists go to finish their indoctrination before venturing forth into the private section . I mean CTV , Global , the NP the Globe and mail are all full of ex CBC people and they all refer to it as the Mother Corp .


Bingo! If they can transfer from the public sector to the private, then they would still find work even if the public sector didn't exist. They'd just skip a step.

Now, imagine shifting public funding to sign-language media for example, A Deaf journalist is far less likely to be able to transfer into the private sector and is also far more likely to struggle to find any job in the private sector. With that in mind, it may be a choice between public sector employment or social assistance for him. If we shift funding to sign-language media, then that would create Deaf programming that could easily be exported abroad too due to the lack of competition. English and French programming face massive competition from the US, the UK, France, Belgium, etc, so can't even be exported much. Sign-language media would simply lack competition. This would also provide cultural programming in a sign-language so as to include the Deaf culture into the Canadian mainstream and serve as a form of economically-productive wealth distribution.