Is Canada ready for $0 oil?

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Is Canada ready for a world awash in $0 oil?

Is Canada prepared for $0 oil? We have had a hard enough time with the post-2014 plunge in fossil-fuel prices, which has weakened the dollar and is playing havoc on big parts of our economy. But that was just a crisis of excessive supply. Are we ready for the day when the demand dries up?

That day may be coming sooner than we think. And no, we are not really prepared.

A draft federal-government study leaked to the CBC this week, prepared by the government trend-forecasting office Policy Horizons Canada, starkly makes the case that oil may be on the verge of becoming almost worthless.

The researchers analyzed worldwide pricing and technology and policy trends that are driving the price of non-fossil electricity sources downward at a far faster pace than expected – along with surprisingly rapid technology-driven decreases in the price of grid-level energy storage and alternative-energy vehicles, manufacturing and heating. They found that we could be much closer than we think to an era when renewable and alternative-energy sources become significantly cheaper than fossil fuels.

As a result, it concludes, “a new electricity-based industrial ecosystem could emerge at a much faster rate than expected, significantly disrupting fossil-fuel markets.” Within a generation, global petroleum demand could “decline further and faster than expected with significant impacts on high-cost producers,” such as Canada.

But surely, you might say, there will still be demand for fossil fuels for many decades. Electric motors with sufficient torque to power tractors, transport trucks and other heavy equipment, to say nothing of jet engines, have not yet been invented. Many countries have new fossil-fuel generating stations with decades of life in them. The full transition to alternative energy could take the rest of this century, couldn’t it?

The problem, as many energy investors know, is that the shift from mass to marginal use of petroleum will not be matched by a similar downward shift in levels of production and distribution. Quite the contrary: Producers will all want to try to recoup their existing exploration and development investments by fully pumping out their plays. Countries sitting on huge reserves will want to put them on the market while the market still exists.

We saw that taking place this week in Vienna, where OPEC failed to reach an agreement not to flood the market with oil. The combination of a gross supply glut and a huge public shift away from carbon-based fuel could result in a situation, in the words of the Ottawa report, where “oil could lose its commodity status.” That is, the $0 barrel could become reality.

Oil investors greeted this report with a yawn: For many people in the energy sector, this prediction is their daily reality. While investors rolled their eyes at the 1990s “peak oil” theory – that reserves would start to run out just as demand peaks – they are giving much more credence to this opposite theory, which could be called “trough oil.”

Oil investors are calling on energy companies to start selling off their assets, paying out their investors through dividends and preparing for the end. Oil executives insist that they have priced in the coming decline. Some experts say they have not come close. As Paul Sankey, an oil-industry analyst with New York’s Wolfe Research told an energy forum in Calgary this week, according to CTV: “Demand forecasts are way too positive … really, the essence of the opportunity for oil is to be dividend stocks to pay out. Not to attempt to grow, but actually to orderly liquidate.”

It may be just as well Canada’s pipeline projects have all become bogged down in political opposition: If we had gone ahead with them, they might soon have turned out to be massively expensive stranded assets. As the Ottawa report notes, “this plausible future would suggest that governments ensure that the risks of further investments in oil and gas infrastructure be borne by private interests rather than taxpayers.”

Canada is luckier than many countries: Only half of our export revenues are tied up in resources. But we should listen to the markets: Rather than scrambling to catch a diminishing share of the oil economy’s last moments, we should start admitting that there’s nothing wrong with seeking a smarter economy.

Is Canada ready for a world awash in $0 oil? - The Globe and Mail
 

Walter

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Never happen. Just another Clingon.
 

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First off, you're an idiot.

Second, read the article and actually dispute the points if you've got the balls.

Third, don't be an idiot.

The dreaded reddie as predicted.
 

pgs

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Is Canada ready for a world awash in $0 oil?

Is Canada prepared for $0 oil? We have had a hard enough time with the post-2014 plunge in fossil-fuel prices, which has weakened the dollar and is playing havoc on big parts of our economy. But that was just a crisis of excessive supply. Are we ready for the day when the demand dries up?

That day may be coming sooner than we think. And no, we are not really prepared.

A draft federal-government study leaked to the CBC this week, prepared by the government trend-forecasting office Policy Horizons Canada, starkly makes the case that oil may be on the verge of becoming almost worthless.

The researchers analyzed worldwide pricing and technology and policy trends that are driving the price of non-fossil electricity sources downward at a far faster pace than expected – along with surprisingly rapid technology-driven decreases in the price of grid-level energy storage and alternative-energy vehicles, manufacturing and heating. They found that we could be much closer than we think to an era when renewable and alternative-energy sources become significantly cheaper than fossil fuels.

As a result, it concludes, “a new electricity-based industrial ecosystem could emerge at a much faster rate than expected, significantly disrupting fossil-fuel markets.” Within a generation, global petroleum demand could “decline further and faster than expected with significant impacts on high-cost producers,” such as Canada.

But surely, you might say, there will still be demand for fossil fuels for many decades. Electric motors with sufficient torque to power tractors, transport trucks and other heavy equipment, to say nothing of jet engines, have not yet been invented. Many countries have new fossil-fuel generating stations with decades of life in them. The full transition to alternative energy could take the rest of this century, couldn’t it?

The problem, as many energy investors know, is that the shift from mass to marginal use of petroleum will not be matched by a similar downward shift in levels of production and distribution. Quite the contrary: Producers will all want to try to recoup their existing exploration and development investments by fully pumping out their plays. Countries sitting on huge reserves will want to put them on the market while the market still exists.

We saw that taking place this week in Vienna, where OPEC failed to reach an agreement not to flood the market with oil. The combination of a gross supply glut and a huge public shift away from carbon-based fuel could result in a situation, in the words of the Ottawa report, where “oil could lose its commodity status.” That is, the $0 barrel could become reality.

Oil investors greeted this report with a yawn: For many people in the energy sector, this prediction is their daily reality. While investors rolled their eyes at the 1990s “peak oil” theory – that reserves would start to run out just as demand peaks – they are giving much more credence to this opposite theory, which could be called “trough oil.”

Oil investors are calling on energy companies to start selling off their assets, paying out their investors through dividends and preparing for the end. Oil executives insist that they have priced in the coming decline. Some experts say they have not come close. As Paul Sankey, an oil-industry analyst with New York’s Wolfe Research told an energy forum in Calgary this week, according to CTV: “Demand forecasts are way too positive … really, the essence of the opportunity for oil is to be dividend stocks to pay out. Not to attempt to grow, but actually to orderly liquidate.”

It may be just as well Canada’s pipeline projects have all become bogged down in political opposition: If we had gone ahead with them, they might soon have turned out to be massively expensive stranded assets. As the Ottawa report notes, “this plausible future would suggest that governments ensure that the risks of further investments in oil and gas infrastructure be borne by private interests rather than taxpayers.”

Canada is luckier than many countries: Only half of our export revenues are tied up in resources. But we should listen to the markets: Rather than scrambling to catch a diminishing share of the oil economy’s last moments, we should start admitting that there’s nothing wrong with seeking a smarter economy.

Is Canada ready for a world awash in $0 oil? - The Globe and Mail
So does this mean Ontario's electricity rates are going down ?
Didn't think so .
 

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Re: Is Canada ready for a world awash in $0 oil?

Never happen. Just another Clingon.


Klingon, dingleberry!
 

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Aside from ecotards babbling about what OTHERS should do, and stupid governments promising to throw away tax money and revenue into stupid green schemes which will inevitably fail, I don't see people not using their gas guzzling cars. Although the prospect of free gas does sound intriguing, it is not very realistic or conceived of by anybody with 1/2 a brain. The price of oil right now is not low because of ecotards or shift in technology, it is low because Saudi Arabia wants to drive everybody else out of the market. Period. Once everybody else is gone, expect the price to go back up and the Saudi's to be rich.
 

petros

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First off, you're an idiot.

Second, read the article and actually dispute the points if you've got the balls.

Third, don't be an idiot.

The dreaded reddie as predicted.

First off, you are the idiot. This is well documented. A fact.

Secondly see above. I have the balls and the brains. 51% of oil consumption isn't used as fuel and thirdly you are an idiot for believing we "just have to wait for the technology" of electric trains, planes, tractors, and automobiles to magically appear and the main uses of oil will be magically forever altered making oil worthless.

And fourthly you are an idiot to think women will ever give up their luxuries. Especially the furry legged moonbat that authored this idiot article for idiots like yourself.

Fiftly see firstly.
 

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The ideologues are too far gone to understand that $0 oil would translate into an even higher dependence on the product, and why not? All of the macro infrastructure is in place (let alone the micro), distribution heavily entrenched and the public already possesses the necessary equipment (read cars, furnaces, etc) that rely on it.

I don't know whether to laugh or pity the massively flawed logic that supports the base contention... But I do weep for the future.

... And... Why... Will.... No.. One.. Think... Of... The... Children...
 

DaSleeper

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Aside from ecotards babbling about what OTHERS should do, and stupid governments promising to throw away tax money and revenue into stupid green schemes which will inevitably fail, I don't see people not using their gas guzzling cars. Although the prospect of free gas does sound intriguing, it is not very realistic or conceived of by anybody with 1/2 a brain. The price of oil right now is not low because of ecotards or shift in technology, it is low because Saudi Arabia wants to drive everybody else out of the market. Period. Once everybody else is gone, expect the price to go back up and the Saudi's to be rich.
To be a greenie it is imperative that you looose all common sense, ergo you have flossy spamming the board....
 

Curious Cdn

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Even if we stop using petroleum completely as a fuel, there is a whole galaxy of extremely valuable materials that we fabricate out of it. You are surrounded by petroleum-derived materials all day long and the stuff will remain valuable for that reason. Those matetials, in fact, are so valuable that burning the stuff ain't too bright of us.
 

Curious Cdn

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We already got rid of coal.

You haven't been to Southern Alberta, lately. I seems that the Japanese, etc. haven't "got rid" of our coal, yet.

They stopped mining it in Cape Breton because their methane-infused coal was mixed with way too much blood.