Chinese Edging Into Canadian Polar Territory-Just the Beginning

bill barilko

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It was just a matter of time many of us expected the pack of swine that passes for a government in China to pull something over the NW Passage-next comes the pack of lies about how some Chinese explorer already was there 'long, long ago' remember you read it here first.The Bad News for Canadians is that we have SFA for a Navy to answer any threat what we do have is a joke basically.

China sets its sights on the Northwest Passage as a potential trade boon
Shipping guide published by maritime safety administration outlines nautical charts and descriptions of ice conditions despite country’s lack of territorial claim


The gradual disappearance of year-round sea ice in the Northwest Passage due to climate change has opened up the possibility of regular shipping routes.

China is looking to exploit the Northwest Passage, the fabled shortcut from the Pacific to the Atlantic, according to state-run media, with the world’s biggest trader in goods publishing a shipping guide to the route.

The seaway north of Canada, which could offer a quicker journey from China to the US east coast than via the Panama Canal or Cape Horn, was sought by European explorers for centuries, including by the doomed Franklin expedition of 1845.

Even now it remains ice-bound for much of the year, but global warming and the retreat of Arctic sea ice are making it more accessible, and Beijing sees it as an opportunity to reshape global trade flows.

China’s maritime safety administration earlier this month published a 356-page, Chinese-language guide including nautical charts and descriptions of ice conditions for the Northwest Passage, said the China Daily newspaper, which is published by the government.

“There will be ships with Chinese flags sailing through this route in the future,” it quoted administration spokesman Liu Pengfei as saying.

“Once this route is commonly used, it will directly change global maritime transportation and have a profound influence on international trade, the world economy, capital flows and resources exploitation,” he added.

Canada regards the Northwest Passage as part of its internal waters, while some other countries consider it an international strait.

Beijing – which is embroiled in territorial disputes of its own in the South and East China Seas – on Wednesday declined to say where it stood on the issue.

“The Chinese side will make a suitable decision according to various factors,” foreign ministry spokeswoman Hua Chunying told a regular briefing in Beijing.

In Ottawa, a spokesman for foreign minister Stephane Dion said no automatic right of transit passage existed in the waterways of the Northwest Passage.

“We welcome navigation that complies with our rules and regulations. Canada has an unfettered right to regulate internal waters,” Joseph Pickerill said by email.

Last year, Chinese shipping company COSCO said it plans to launch regular services through the Arctic Ocean to Europe by way of the “Northeast Passage”, another Arctic shipping route north of Russia.

COSCO ships travelled that route in 2013 and 2015. State-owned COSCO has since merged with another company, China Shipping Group.

“Many countries have noticed the financial and strategic value of Arctic Ocean passages. China has also paid much attention,” Wu Yuxiao, one of the co-authors of the new guide, was quoted by China Daily as saying.

China does not border the Arctic and has no territorial claim to any of it, but joined the Arctic Council as an observer two years ago.

Observers say Beijing recognises the area’s potential for scientific research and its strategic value.
 

Curious Cdn

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Hey, folks. Don't you think that it is time to build a proper armed icebreaker fleet to hold on to the North that we claim to own? The one that is planned (Who knows if it will ever be built here in Liberal Land) gets us about 1/3rd of the way there.
 

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So basically that it is icing up will get China to put in a Canal near Panama is reported earlier. The big question is why do that when their new market is Africa and the Mid East and Russia and parts of Europe. That would support rail and roads that take the straightness routes as there would be customers all along the 'new routes'. North America can be self sufficient so imports are down as low as they go, repair rather than replace will be the 'norm' and as such you don't need routes for the newest and biggest ships as they won't be unloading anything.

You had me rolling with that one Wolf. Well Done.
Using those things makes you immune from invasion, needing snow shovels is a close 2nd.

Obama just increased the import tax on some Chinese steel products. Want to bet it was the 'good stuff' and not the 'marginal stuff'?
 

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Maybe we should take a page from the Chinese voodoo child, and raise a little sand, like they are doing in the south China sea, and put a toll booth on it, and charge duty for passage...maybe sell them some pints on the way by, and lift a few containers whilst they are groggy with brew...
heh heh HAR!
 

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Having a fleet of icebreakers will only make it easier for foreigners to trespass. Let them break their own ice. As the ice gets thicker again it will get harder each year. Unless you are like flossy and believe that the Arctic has been ice free for the last 3 years.
 

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Maybe we should take a page from the Chinese voodoo child, and raise a little sand, like they are doing in the south China sea, and put a toll booth on it, and charge duty for passage...maybe sell them some pints on the way by, and lift a few containers whilst they are groggy with brew...
heh heh HAR!

I say put 15 subs down there and sink every ship that try's to pass :lol:

Hard to blame Canada with no evidence and so much shifting ice :lol:
 

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I say put 15 subs down there and sink every ship that try's to pass :lol:

Hard to blame Canada with no evidence and so much shifting ice :lol:
And, if you squish them barges just right, the goods will pop right out, and then of course once it's spread out on an ice flow its swag...er, salvage...

PS: have you ever seen a prop after its chewed some ICE...?
lol, used rebuilt props on sale now, only 50, ooo bucks a piece, service while U wait!
and say, why don't cha have a complimentary beer while we take care of that for you...
first one's free!
 
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Angstrom

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And, if you squish them barges just right, the goods will pop right out, and then of course once it's spread out on an ice flow its swag...er, salvage...

PS: have you ever seen a prop after its chewed some ICE...?
lol, used rebuilt props on sale now, only 50, ooo bucks a piece, service while U wait!
and say, why don't cha have a complimentary beer while we take care of that for you...
first one's free!

Those subs will literally pay themselves. :lol: