Canada will need to leave 'stranded assets' in order to meet climate change goals

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Trudeau faces looming ‘stranded assets’ debate in confronting climate policy

OTTAWA - When star NDP candidate Linda McQuaig mused during the opening days of the federal election campaign that some of Alberta's oil wealth would have to "stay in the ground" in order to meet Canada's climate change targets, the remark was treated as a scandalous revelation by her political opponents.

Yet McQuaig, known for her sometimes polarizing and provocative views, arguably was simply stating 2015's middle-of-the-road orthodoxy.

From the governor of the Bank of England, to the U.S. president and the investment arms of the planet's biggest banks, 2015 was the year that "stranded assets" stopped being some mythical bedtime story told by tree huggers to spook oil workers and landed in the mainstream.

Mark Carney, the Canadian head of the Bank of England, attracted international attention with a Sept. 29 speech at venerable Lloyd's of London cautioning against the grave risks to the financial system posed by a changing climate.

Carney cited estimates by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change that only between a fifth and a third of proven oil reserves can be burned if humanity is to avoid catastrophic climate impacts.

"If that estimate is even approximately correct it would render the vast majority of reserves 'stranded' — oil, gas and coal that will be literally unburnable without expensive carbon capture technology, which itself alters fossil fuel economics," said the central bank governor.

President Barack Obama, making the case for his rejection of the Keystone XL pipeline barely a month later, made much the same point.

"Ultimately, if we're going to prevent large parts of this Earth from becoming not only inhospitable but uninhabitable in our lifetimes, we're going to have to keep some fossil fuels in the ground rather than burn them and release more dangerous pollution into the sky," he said.

Investment houses are also issuing cautions.

Last April, HSBC Global Research reported that: "Fossil fuel companies, or some of their assets, may become non-viable or 'unburnable,'" under conditions of increased climate regulation and depressed prices.

And following this month's UN COP21 climate agreement in Paris, Citigroup Research Equities Australia was warning investors that, "whatever the fine print, high emissions industries will face substantial change in coming decades."

Trudeau faces looming ‘stranded assets’ debate in confronting climate policy | National Newswatch
 

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Climate gate?

Climate gate.



BTW you do realize who Carney is good buddies with, right?
 

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Ummmm, can't say I'm all that interested.

He's the former Governor to the Bank of Canada.

A good friend and ally of Harper's.

If this guy is saying to keep the oil in the ground, it's not BS.

In 4 years all this nonsense will be dumped when we get the Conservatives in again.

Ho! Ho! Ho!

Not if Brona Ambros is any indication.

It's no coincidence she previously handled the climate change file.
 

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He's the former Governor to the Bank of Canada.

A good friend and ally of Harper's.

If this guy is saying to keep the oil in the ground, it's not BS.

What Carney isn't spelling-out for you is that it makes sense in the short term to keep this oil in the ground... It has nothing to do with the AGW/CC fantasy that you've bought into, it has everything to do with energy security for the next 100 years and maximizing ROI in the med and long term.

Think about it, why hasn't Carney recommended to the UK that they cease ops in the North Sea (and elsewhere) if this is exclusively about alarmism?

Look to the big picture bud and just say no to the kool-aid when Gore or Suzuki pass you the jug
 

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In 4 years all this nonsense will be dumped when we get the Conservatives in again.

Ho! Ho! Ho!
Is that your speech for 4 years from today??
Canada can be a leader or a follower, if JT is opening some new doors it is still up to the people to take advantages of that new opportunity. France doesn't seem to have any issues on getting back into economic good times with Russia (other that they might have to spy for NATO), Germany wants that back also especially if an economic expansions is going to be going on for a few nations, alone.
It could also make Canada a 'haven for justice' as far as being a member of the ICC and being willing to put up with many offenders in their rehab schools. (better option than execution by some form)

Look to the big picture bud and just say no to the kool-aid when Gore or Suzuki pass you the jug
They promoted something they were handed a script to, that doesn't mean they wrote the scripts. It is still up to the individual to decide if he needs to go north or south in order that he fights mother nature the least.
 

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What Carney isn't spelling-out for you is that it makes sense in the short term to keep this oil in the ground... It has nothing to do with the AGW/CC fantasy that you've bought into, it has everything to do with energy security for the next 100 years and maximizing ROI in the med and long term.

Think about it, why hasn't Carney recommended to the UK that they cease ops in the North Sea (and elsewhere) if this is exclusively about alarmism?

Look to the big picture bud and just say no to the kool-aid when Gore or Suzuki pass you the jug

If the price is low, particularly due to over-supply, why not leave it in the ground until the price goes higher?

Also, low oil prices should be the environmentalists worst nightmare. It makes fossil fuels so much cheaper than the green alternatives.
 

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If the price is low, particularly due to over-supply, why not leave it in the ground until the price goes higher?

I believe that there are a lot of geopolitics and fights for market share at play here more so than simply over supply

Also, low oil prices should be the environmentalists worst nightmare. It makes fossil fuels so much cheaper than the green alternatives.

Bingo
 

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He's the former Governor to the Bank of Canada.

A good friend and ally of Harper's.

If this guy is saying to keep the oil in the ground, it's not BS.



Not if Brona Ambros is any indication.

It's no coincidence she previously handled the climate change file.

He didn't say keep all oil in the ground. Just Canadian oil. No briddish or Norwegian oil or any of the unethical oil producers.Which was the US plan way back when they started developing Middle East oil fields. Use foreign oil up first. It was only when OPEC got too powerful that the problems started.
 

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used to be two mile high of Ice where bay street is today
hear tell it was the fifth or sixth glacial period in oh, several hundred thousand years
of no snivleization
now, thats how you freeze assets
 

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If the price is low, particularly due to over-supply, why not leave it in the ground until the price goes higher?

Also, low oil prices should be the environmentalists worst nightmare. It makes fossil fuels so much cheaper than the green alternatives.

That is why they want a carbon tax. Keep the price up there for the peons.
 

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used to be two mile high of Ice where bay street is today
hear tell it was the fifth or sixth glacial period in oh, several hundred thousand years
of no snivleization
now, thats how you freeze assets
Would it take that much before they would abandon the place?? just enough snow for the sleigh runners is a good rule of thumb.
 

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Yes it's a big conspiracy.