Liberals seek to explain stance on whether to hike GST as revenue booster

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Liberals seek to explain stance on whether to hike GST as revenue booster



The federal finance minister is seeking to clarify the new Liberal government's position on the GST.

Bill Morneau was asked directly Tuesday whether he has considered raising the goods and services tax as a way to generate more government revenue.

"You know, one of the things that I'm absolutely sure of is that we should go through our budget process in order to figure out where we're going to get to," Morneau told reporters in Ottawa in response to the question.

"In my estimation, we're going to hear a lot of things from not only my colleagues around the table, but from Canadians about what we should be doing from a budget standpoint. And at the end of that, we'll present to Canadians a plan for the next year and give them a sense of what's going to happen over the next five years.

"I'm not at this stage considering any tax issues that haven't been already put in our campaign platform."

After his remarks were published, Morneau later tweeted: "Contrary to misleading headlines, we are not considering changes to the GST."

In the coming weeks, the government will hold consultations to help it prepare for the federal budget. Morneau has also said the government plans to create an advisory council made up of experts from Canada and abroad that will help Ottawa brainstorm on how best to kick-start economic growth.

The previous Conservative government lowered the GST by two percentage points during its decade in office -- a move that eliminated about $14 billion in annual revenues.

The Harper Tories chopped a percentage point in 2006 to drop the GST to six per cent. They trimmed off another point two years later.

Most economists opposed the Conservative move to slash the GST, which was widely viewed as more of a popular political decision rather than a solid economic one.
Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has promised in the past not to increase the GST.

His Liberals, however, are currently staring at considerable fiscal hurdles, as they look to follow through on pricey election pledges.

The party has already backed away from its election vow to cap annual deficits at $10 billion over the next two years, blaming the sluggish economy and a weaker-than-expected fiscal situation they say they inherited from the Tories.

Meanwhile, the party has started highlighting the importance of fulfilling another fiscal goal from its platform, one that's lesser known but easier to meet: lowering the debt-to-GDP ratio.

The government has promised to keep the ratio, which represents a government's capacity to pay back debt, on a downward track every year until the next election. Ottawa calculates the ratio by dividing total federal debt by the overall size of the economy, as measured by nominal GDP.

Economists say that by focusing on debt-to-GDP, the Liberals could still lower the ratio even if they run annual deficits of up to $25 billion in the coming years -- as long as the economy records decent growth.

Morneau has also said that along with the debt-to-GDP vow, the government will stick with its other "fiscal anchor": balancing the federal books by the fourth year of its mandate.

Experts say balancing the budget in four years will be a much tougher task for the government than reducing the debt-to-GDP ratio.

Earlier this month, parliamentary budget office projections suggested the government could be on track to run annual deficits up to $15 billion once the Liberals' costed, big-ticket election vows are included in calculations. On top of that, the party has also made several uncosted promises.

The Liberals also recently conceded their new tax package -- which raises taxes on the highest earners and lowers the rate on the middle tax bracket -- will actually drain more than $1 billion net from the treasury each year. Initially, the party had projected that the plan would be revenue neutral.

source: Liberals seek to explain stance on whether to hike GST as revenue booster | CTV News

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HA!!!

5% to what 7%? 9%? Helping out the middle class
 

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If they make a corresponding cut in income tax, keeping the whole thing revenue neutral, I support a shift to a higher GST. Consumption taxes are a fairer tax as they get everybody who buys anything. However, this government is unlikely to do anything revenue neutral.
 

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I agree. User fees (or taxes, tariffs, or whatever word you like using) are cool. Debt and over-taxing middle income folks is not.
 

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If there was a tax reduction elsewhere to make it 'revenue neutral', what would be the point in raising the GST? The reason they consider it is to raise revenue?
I hate the idea! Taxing essential services is a killer. The cost of our electricity alone is already exorbitant and with tax on top of it, it's almost impossible to maintain for the average family. We pay it on telephone, internet, water and sewer, heating, property taxes, appliances, non-essential foods, service calls and on new houses. As prices raise so does the tax.
Almost everyone needs a car these days. The tax on the price of a car can be more than a family's income for a month. A car can be sold several times and each time government collects tax.
Families on a fixed income are having a hard enough time keeping up with the rising costs of goods and services without rising taxes too.
The Liberals promised a tax break for the middle class. Now the first thing they want to throw at us is a tax increase? Doesn't seem right to me!
Government spending is out of control. Governments at all levels have sources of income that the average citizen doesn't even know
about. Still, with all the other taxes they collect, and the millions they take in in lotteries, they can't manage. There's got to be a heck of a lot of waste and mismanagement somewhere.
It might be hard for wealthy people to understand how the middle class, especially those on fixed incomes have to struggle these days to maintain an acceptable standard of living but they should make it their business to know how the average person lives. They are supposed to be working for us to make life better, not make us more vulnerable and needy and burdened with debt.
 

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And it should be raised since it's a consumption tax. If you don't buy stuff, you don't pay the tax......


Most economists opposed the Conservative move to slash the GST, which was widely viewed as more of a popular political decision rather than a solid economic one.

Liberals seek to explain stance on whether to hike GST as revenue booster | National Newswatch


And how do people avoid 'buying' electricity, water, heating fuel, vehicle replacement when their car wears out? How are they expected to live without service when their appliances break down or their plumbing spring a leak? How are they expected to live without any form or entertainment, never have a dinner out or a take-out order?
If 'Government is determined to raise the tax (in spite of their promise of a tax break for the middle class) they should at least limit the raise to high end products and exempt essential services for middle and low income families.
Another 2% on top of our already 'out of sight' hydro bills will be enough to put a lot of low income families under. And don't forget, the price of gas will go up again too.
The Liberals have already eliminated the child credit, promising to make it up with an income tax decrease. An increase in the GST will cost the average family much more than they could possible gain from an income tax decrease.
 

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This is now inevitable. They have 'let slip' this trial balloon and will implement in a year or so when it is not so shocking since we have heard it before.
 

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Isn't the Carbon taxes not enough that hit business, now they want to hit the citizens...

I guess we all have to start paying for all those billions he handing out like Halloween Candy to India, Africa and so on..

Liberals and NDP, tax and spend, tax and spend.
 

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Isn't the Carbon taxes not enough that hit business, now they want to hit the citizens...

I guess we all have to start paying for all those billions he handing out like Halloween Candy to India, Africa and so on..

Liberals and NDP, tax and spend, tax and spend.

You forgot borrow. Borrowing is very important when you can't tax enough to meet your spending desires.
The irony is that every time they raise taxes or borrow to "help" the economy they are simply making things worse because it raises prices so goods and services are harder to purchase without ever more debt.

Four years of trudOwe will make us on par with Greece.
 

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Isn't the Carbon taxes not enough that hit business, now they want to hit the citizens...

I guess we all have to start paying for all those billions he handing out like Halloween Candy to India, Africa and so on..

Liberals and NDP, tax and spend, tax and spend.

We bought a new tv last month and were shocked to find that we had to pay a 'disposal' tax on top of the HST. We hadn't known anything about that! I seems now we have to pay the extra tax whenever we buy an new appliance to pay for the disposal of the old one.
 

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A consumption tax is the best tax but Justine and his Liberals will increase the GST and add a carbon tax and we'll end paying more to the gubmint. There should only be a consumption tax and no other tax of any kind at any level of gubmint.
 

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We bought a new tv last month and were shocked to find that we had to pay a 'disposal' tax on top of the HST. We hadn't known anything about that! I seems now we have to pay the extra tax whenever we buy an new appliance to pay for the disposal of the old one.

What pisses me off about that is that you pay the same flat amount on a little $25 DVD player as you do on a $350 television set. This all comes from the same social engineering fascism as HOV lanes and carbon taxes.
 

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And how do people avoid 'buying' electricity, water, heating fuel, vehicle replacement when their car wears out? How are they expected to live without service when their appliances break down or their plumbing spring a leak? How are they expected to live without any form or entertainment, never have a dinner out or a take-out order?
If 'Government is determined to raise the tax (in spite of their promise of a tax break for the middle class) they should at least limit the raise to high end products and exempt essential services for middle and low income families.
Another 2% on top of our already 'out of sight' hydro bills will be enough to put a lot of low income families under. And don't forget, the price of gas will go up again too.
The Liberals have already eliminated the child credit, promising to make it up with an income tax decrease. An increase in the GST will cost the average family much more than they could possible gain from an income tax decrease.[/QUOTE


The better solution for the low income people is to eliminate the GST altogether and go back to the manufacturers tax that the GST replaced........

After his remarks were published, Morneau later tweeted: "Contrary to misleading headlines, we are not considering changes to the GST."
 
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Wait for it, that tax cut to the middle class will be eaten up in no time, lol

Cuz the messiah is all about the middle class.