Standard & Poor's has downgraded Ontario from AA- to A+

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S&P downgrades Ontario provincial debt to A+ from AA-, outlook stable. What's the issue?

 

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BTW, when is Ontario going to get rid of that British Flag on their flag.



It represents oppression, imperialism, and greed. Many British Ships transported Slaves to the United States, so it's a sign of Racism.

Look at the scale of the violence, cruelty, racism and war crimes in India, Africa & China committed under that British Flag.

We need to abolish the Ontario flag!!!

Wynne will think that Standard and Poor just gave her an A+ on the economy.
 

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I'm actually shocked at how low the debt to GDP percentage is.

The general rule of thumb that the economists use is that 80% debt to GDP is when you start worrying.

We've barely cracked 40%
 

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I'm actually shocked at how low the debt to GDP percentage is.

The general rule of thumb that the economists use is that 80% debt to GDP is when you start worrying.

We've barely cracked 40%
Told ya.
 

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I'm actually shocked at how low the debt to GDP percentage is.

The general rule of thumb that the economists use is that 80% debt to GDP is when you start worrying.

We've barely cracked 40%

Does this include bonded debt and unfunded pension (and other) liabilities?

Hell, you haven't even looked at the basic terms of this debt and the cost to service it.
 

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The Tories still can't believe they lost in Ontario and they will lose again its not they
don't have policy to consider it is there attitude
 

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The failings of ON Provincial Govt is the reason why you get 20% less for your exported apples than you did 2-3 years ago. What did you do to deserve that?
 

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Ontario, Canada’s largest province, had its credit rating cut by Standard & Poor’s, which said the government’s plan for one of the largest infrastructure outlays in Canadian history will weaken the balance sheet for years to come.

S&P lowered Ontario’s rating one level to A+ from AA-, according to a statement Monday. The rating firm said even if the Liberals’ manage to close their operating deficit by 2018 as promised, their 10-year plan to spend C$130 billion ($108 billion) on transit, hospitals and other public infrastructure means its debt load will accumulate. S&P expects debt to rise to a “very high” 267 percent of revenue in the next two years.

“While some domestic and international peers display very weak budgetary performances or very high debt burdens similarly, it is the combination of both that sets Ontario apart from the group,” the rating firm said in the statement. “Ontario’s budgetary performance remains very weak.”

The governing Liberal Party has pledged to gradually reduce the operating deficit without slashing jobs and social services while initiating an ambitious spending program.

“Today’s low interest-rate environment and historic under-investments make today an ideal time to invest in infrastructure,” Finance Minister Charles Sousa said in a statement. “Our plan is sensible and it is working.”

While the deficit has been dropping, the province’s total debt outstanding has been rising and now stands at about C$315 billion, according to the Ontario Financing Authority. Ontario’s C$250 billion of long-term bonds rated by Moody’s Investors Service is the most of any province, state or local government in the world, the New York-based company said last year. Moody’s has an Aa2 credit rating on the province, two levels above where S&P’s rating, on watch for possible downgrade.

Ontario Cut by S&P as Big Spending Makes It Global Laggard - Bloomberg Business
 

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The failings of ON Provincial Govt is the reason why you get 20% less for your exported apples than you did 2-3 years ago. What did you do to deserve that?
Well he has a good attitude of course . And he is also collecting a stipend for his position on the Co-op board .
 

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This is the important part that oil tycoons should really take note:

S&P notes Ontario’s economy is expected to grow, albeit moderately, and it’s still considered an attractive an “safe” jurisdiction to invest in, especially given recent global instability particularly in Europe.

Also:

The Ontario government does boast the lowest per-capita spending growth in the country, but it also has the largest population.

Ontario downgrade by Standard and Poor’s called ‘hardly surprising’ after years of warnings
 

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petros

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This is the important part that oil tycoons should really take note:

S&P notes Ontario’s economy is expected to grow, albeit moderately, and it’s still considered an attractive an “safe” jurisdiction to invest in, especially given recent global instability particularly in Europe.

Also:

The Ontario government does boast the lowest per-capita spending growth in the country, but it also has the largest population.

Ontario downgrade by Standard and Poor’s called ‘hardly surprising’ after years of warnings

Why do you have so much f-cking debt? Why can't you survive with an at par dollar? Why do the other 24 Million Canadians have to take a 20% hit on exports to support a Province that can't manage it spending or produce goods effieciently without having to sell at 20% below value?