Panic time: As oil goes, so does Canada’s economy

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Panic time: As oil goes, so does Canada’s economy

Feel free to panic about oil.


Okay, on a day when the stock market sell-off teetered on the edge of a soul-crushing rout (before bouncing back to merely awful), this might seem like I’m sounding the alarm bell about the wrong market. But it’s not like we’ve never seen an October stock market slump before. ’Tis the season when money managers, eyeing their Oct. 31 fiscal-year-end positions, get nervous and jerky in the knees.

Yes, the Canadian stock market is down 11 per cent since early September, but let’s try to remember that this was after rising 23 per cent in the 12 months prior. This is normal and manageable. A standard-order correction in stocks, even if it’s a sudden and dramatic one, is not likely to undermine Canada’s economic recovery.


But oil just might.


The undisputed champion of fossil fuels is falling like a skydiver with an anvil parachute; down 15 per cent in a little over two weeks, nearly 25 per cent in the past four months. The statement that makes about the spiralling gloom over the global economy is bad enough in itself.


But for Canada, whose fragile economic recovery has become so thoroughly intertwined with oil, this is potentially very bad indeed. It’s no exaggeration to say that a drop in oil prices of this magnitude, if sustained, could tip Canada’s wobbly economic applecart.


The energy sector makes up roughly 10 per cent of Canadian gross domestic product. That’s more than retail, construction, agriculture and the public sector’s contribution to the economy. Energy accounts for roughly one-quarter of Canada’s exports.


And the sector has been punching well above its economic weight. In the first half of the year, energy accounted for 30 per cent of Canada’s economic growth, and more than 40 per cent of export growth.


An oil collapse could stall the one reliable engine in Canada’s otherwise sputter-prone economy: Alberta. The energy sector makes up nearly 30 per cent of the Alberta economy. Direct revenues from energy royalties account for more than 20 per cent of the provincial government’s revenue base – and that’s before we even get started on the big slice of the corporate and personal income tax pie that the sector delivers. Alberta’s economic and fiscal health pivots on the well-being of the oil and gas business; a 25-per-cent drop in the price of crude is a big deal.


(Alberta government’s current budget assumes an average West Texas intermediate oil price of more than $96 (U.S.) a barrel – $15 higher than the current price, although actually a bit below the average price so far in the fiscal year. Oil’s plunge hasn’t been around long enough to have gutted the province’s budget yet, but stick around, this could get interesting.)


How much does Alberta matter? Well, as with any good native Albertan (full disclosure – born and raised), my knee-jerk tendency is to say “way more than the rest of you bastards combined.” But in the current Canadian economy, that’s alarmingly close to accurate. Alberta contributed one-third of Canada’s economic growth last year, and is by far the fastest-growing province in the country again this year. Since the beginning of 2013, nearly half the jobs created in the country were in Alberta.


The unavoidable conclusion is that much of the country’s economic health is tied to a mid-sized province whose overwhelmingly dominant industry is sneezing louder day by day.


Now, one of the handy things about Canada having a perceived petro-currency is that when U.S.-dollar-priced crude tumbles, the loonie typically goes with it – mitigating the damage to oil prices when converted into Canadian dollars, which is what really matters for the oil company profits that keep Alberta humming. But the dollar’s decline hasn’t even come close to making up for oil’s plunge. The currency is down just 6 per cent since the beginning of July, offsetting only about a quarter of the oil price hit.


The oil sector has not only been leading the way in Canada’s export recovery, it has also been the big driver in business capital investment in the country. That means the sector has been leading the way in the two key areas that the Bank of Canada has repeatedly identified as critical to sustaining Canada’s recovery. Lower prices could stifle energy’s contribution on both fronts; they are not only an automatic drag on the value of exports, they are also a notorious capital-spending killer.


All of this comes with a big “if” – as in, it’s only a problem if the drop in prices is sustained. In volatile and unpredictable markets, that’s a tough call. But the facts are that global demand is slumping and supplies are ample, absolutely justifying lower price levels. Canada’s economy may have to get used to less support from its energy sector for a while. Unless other sectors can step up to fill the void – and that itself is a big if – Canada’s recovery is at very real risk.


Panic time: As oil goes, so does Canada’s economy - The Globe and Mail
 

damngrumpy

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If the bottom falls out and the government has to tell the people they are in trouble who
gets the blame? Oil is the life blood of the Province but the hay ride will end at some
point and even China is expecting a yank of the chain in many sectors. Most people
including those demonstrating against oil don't realize how dependent they are on it.
This could be troubling indeed
 

55Mercury

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well, as I said in another thread, the ahole illuminati who have orchestrated this whole mess and are now in fear for their very own lives as the realization that the hell-hounds they have unleashed now will soon turn on them if the crisis boils over the entire globe and the only way to put the chains back on the beasts is to remove their impetus which is driven by their undercutting the price of oil. When the bottom falls out of oil, the resulting depression will leave the new jobless legions little choice but to enlist to defeat the common enemy. once defeated you will see the price of oil rise back up and beyond its recent high-water mark just as mysteriously as it went down.

MHz is a bit like The Truth in Grand Theft Auto... you know he's crazy, but it ain't all bullsh!t. lol
 

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Everyone in the oil industry has seen this coming for a while. The reason for the price drop boils down to:

1.) Libya, Iran and ISIL are selling oil at huge discounts for cash and pumping as much of it as they can;
2.) ISIL doesn't control much for oilfields but oil speculators artificially had prices much higher on speculation that they would plus given all the new finds recently in Brazil, the Mediterranean and other places expect speculators not to be as bullish;
3.)The Bakken play along with fracking in the US has turned the country around from importing about 20% of the world's oil production per day to being on the cusp of being a net exporter.
4.) After Fukishima Japan shut down their nuclear power (which supplied about 30% of their energy) and ramped up fossil fuels to make the difference. Their nukes came back on line this summer greatly reducing demand.

I personally figure oil will dip to about $80.00 and predict OPEC will try to curb production with a target of $90.00.

Here is what to watch for that may push oil to $60.00:

1.) Russia has pissed off Europe with all their threats over energy deliveries and now there is a rush to start fracking their own old fields. Expect a similar increase in production as experienced by the USA over the next 5 years;
2.) The Danish will be bringing their Arctic fields online;
3.) A failed state in Iraq could see them join Libya and Iran in ignoring OPEC quotas and selling as much oil as they can pump at deep discounts for desperately needed cash.

But don't get too comfortable with the low prices. It is unknown how long all these newly fracked fields will produce oil for and they could be dried up in the next 5 years. European fracking will likely be shut down due to protests unless Russia shuts off the taps which is unlikely as $60.00 oil plunges Russia and Saudi Arabia into recession and even depression territory so expect those two producers to start taking a greater interest in in finding a way to bump up prices either through hook or crook.

I don't like low oil prices because it encourages greater consumption which is bad for the environment and bad for our economic dependance on a finite resource. I do like low prices to give me a labour break.

My contacts in the industry tell me they will take advantage of low prices and slumping demand by actually building more upgraders and other projects because the industry has learned that the prices for these projects goes up a whole lot more when the industry is going full bore.
 

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Panic time: As oil goes, so does Canada’s economy

Feel free to panic about oil.


Okay, on a day when the stock market sell-off teetered on the edge of a soul-crushing rout (before bouncing back to merely awful), this might seem like I’m sounding the alarm bell about the wrong market. But it’s not like we’ve never seen an October stock market slump before. ’Tis the season when money managers, eyeing their Oct. 31 fiscal-year-end positions, get nervous and jerky in the knees.



Panic time: As oil goes, so does Canada’s economy - The Globe and Mail


Is Canada a "one trick pony"?
 

B00Mer

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We need to dumb Free Trade / NAFTA and get back to bringing manufacturing jobs, good paying middle class paying jobs..

Canada has relied on it's Oil Industry to basically keep Canada rolling.. our fisheries are all but gone, wood and wheat can not support Canada's economy.

Our manufacturing jobs have been sold or China, the USA and Mexico in the name of Globalization (Corporate Greed).

Canada need fair trade.. protect Canadian jobs, protect Canadian resources.

Jack Layton Appears on Lou Dobbs - YouTube

Abrogate Nafta Now!!!

"After 15 years under NAFTA Canada is a much more unequal society. Free
trade boosters still credit the agreement with increasing employment and
prosperity, but though 'compensation' for a few corporate CEOs has rocketed
up, NAFTA has in fact contributed to the loss of manufacturing jobs and
exerted a downward pressure on wages. Here’s the real story on jobs and NAFTA:

• In the last 6 years, we have lost 350,000 manufacturing jobs. That’s like 150 good jobs
disappearing every day. And it’s getting worse.

• The job loss is hitting many different industries all over the country: auto, food
processing, forestry products, textiles, metals, furniture etc. The details are different but
the story is the same: decline in orders lost to cheaper imports, missed investment, job
cutbacks and plant closures.

• Too many of the new jobs being created today are low-paying, insecure jobs with fewer
benefits, particularly for women.

• Canada is increasingly becoming a society of haves, and have-nots with the gap in wealth
growing every year.
"

source: http://www.commonfrontiers.ca/Election2008/FS4_Manufacturing_job_loss.pdf
 

petros

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From 2 years ago.....

LONDON, June 1 (Reuters) - Oil's fall below $100 a barrel is
unlikely to trigger a swift supply cut from OPEC power Saudi
Arabia, which is pumping at its highest rate in decades, because
its budget can comfortably withstand a much lower price.
Others in the Organization of the Petroleum Exporting
Countries, including Iran and Iraq, need a higher price than
Saudi Arabia to balance budgets and they may call on Riyadh to
throttle back when producers meet on June 14 to set output
policy.
Having campaigned aggressively to bring down oil prices that
were damaging global economic growth, Saudi Oil Minister Ali
al-Naimi may be reluctant to turn down the taps just yet.
"If prices come down very severely before the meeting, there
could be discussion of a cut," said a Gulf OPEC delegate, who
declined to be identified.
Brent crude would have to drop below $90 a barrel to
convince Riyadh and its Gulf Arab allies Kuwait and the United
Arab Emirates of the need to consider curbing supplies, the
delegate said.
Naimi began talking oil prices down in March as Brent crude
moved toward a peak of $128 a barrel, lifting output to back his
words. Brent traded down around $3.00 to below $99 a
barrel on Friday.
With the United States, the UK and France threatening to
release emergency stocks, Riyadh pushed output beyond 10 million
barrels a day for the first time in 30 years.
Talk of an emergency reserve release by consumer countries
has since gone quiet and Riyadh is unlikely to want to provoke
it again ahead of U.S. presidential elections in November.
Gasoline costs, a leading issue for the election campaign,
have dropped down the agenda with the fall in prices.

You bet, freight costs will plummet, goods will be a lot cheaper.

So will raw materials made from oil. Plastics, chemicals, pharmaceutical and on and on.
 

EagleSmack

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$2.88 at the pump last night!

I'm so POed that the oil man topped off my tank in July. Is it possible the oil companies knew a drop in oil prices was coming?
 

JLM

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Petros- Do you think dropping oil prices will have any effect on exploration? Would like to see the son continue working for awhile.
 

damngrumpy

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The governments were prepared to lower taxes which is not always a good idea either.
We have to maintain a tax level to support required services and do the upkeep on the
infrastructure we need to maintain. Exploration provides jobs and the oil price that goes
below 80 dollars a barrel. I think if we keep a fair price we will be alright if it goes too high
or falls to the floor we see instability.
 

petros

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The governments were prepared to lower taxes which is not always a good idea either.
We have to maintain a tax level to support required services and do the upkeep on the
infrastructure we need to maintain. Exploration provides jobs and the oil price that goes
below 80 dollars a barrel. I think if we keep a fair price we will be alright if it goes too high
or falls to the floor we see instability.

Just like OPEC countries need oil at $100bbl to pay their bills? I guess sponsoring ISIS was a piss poor decision for OPEC huh?
 

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