Two turds in a bowl

Cobalt_Kid

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Guess we know why the other psychopath in this picture doesn't have a problem with Rotten Robbie making us international laughing stocks.

Kenney's Rob Ford Comment Sparked Profane Rebuke From Flaherty

Kenney's comments about Ford also upset members of the Conservatives' Greater Toronto Caucus, which Flaherty chairs.

Sources tell CBC News that some Greater Toronto Area caucus members resented Kenney's comments because they flew in the face of strict instructions to avoid commenting on the Rob Ford scandal because of the Toronto mayor's enduring popularity in some key federal ridings.

The conservative brand is all that matters to these "people".
 

Cobalt_Kid

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It's amazing how so many of these high level cons think they're above any accountability.

Flaherty is attacking other cabinet ministers for actually being concerned about the effect the Ford fiasco is having on our reputation and international standing and in the absence of any real leadership in Canada this national sliming just goes on. Maybe Harper can bring back Wright on a limited contract to manage this scandal that has conservative written all over it.

"I'm going to eat your box", "Yes, I smoked crack(and lied about it for months), "yes, I drive drunk" and so much more from a mayor that has close associations with criminal figures, who knows he may have even been involved in some of the violence that has already happened around the men who were trying to sell the video of him smoking crack.

This is from the man who Harper credits with bringing the breakthrough in the TA that helped win the cons majority.

So much for family values.

When you look where so much of modern conservative "thought" comes from, people like Ayn Rand who based her superman on a serial killer:

Romancing the Stone-Cold Killer: Ayn Rand and William Hickman | Michael Prescott

In her journal circa 1928 Rand quoted the statement, "What is good for me is right," a credo attributed to a prominent figure of the day, William Edward Hickman. Her response was enthusiastic. "The best and strongest expression of a real man's psychology I have heard," she exulted. (Quoted in Ryan, citing Journals of Ayn Rand, pp. 21-22.)

At the time, she was planning a novel that was to be titled The Little Street, the projected hero of which was named Danny Renahan.According to Rand scholar Chris Matthew Sciabarra, she deliberately modeled Renahan - intended to be her first sketch of her ideal man - after this same William Edward Hickman. Renahan, she enthuses in another journal entry, "is born with a wonderful, free, light consciousness -- [resulting from] the absolute lack of social instinct or herd feeling. He does not understand, because he has no organ for understanding, the necessity, meaning, or importance of other people ... Other people do not exist for him and he does not understand why they should."

Sound familiar, both Ford and Harper show this same lightness in not having to worry about what other people think or feel because they lack the ability to actually care...and somehow this is supposed to be a virtue?

How about Tom Flanagan who was very influential in the early Harper years, he doesn't have a problem with people viewing child porn, as if in the making of it the vast amount of damage caused is someone else's problem.

Tom Flanagan okay with child pornography. - YouTube

That's the problem with these "people", their solution is pretty destructive for any real notion of civil society.

If we're seeking the end of Canada we're going about it the right way.

Which is entirely in line with this, why give a damn about people when you can marginalize them to the point where they just eventually cease to exist...which seems to be the whole Harper philosophy.

#MooreChristmas: Industry Minister Ripped Over Child Poverty Remarks, Apologizes (TWITTER)
 

Cobalt_Kid

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Looks like as far as Flaherty is concerned it's screw the elderly also.

Canada Pension Plan: Finance Ministers Won't Sweeten Plan Now

The federal ministers told reporters after the meeting there had been no consensus, but Sousa and ministers from Prince Edward Island, Quebec and British Columbia all said Ottawa was the only voice against proceeding to consultations and study.

"I'm very disappointed that they used stall tactics in order to ensure that CPP enhancement wasn't even considered at this point in time," a visibly angry Sousa said.

Manufacturing jobs are down in Canada too, besides the oil sector and the Chinese who the hell is the conservative government working for anyway?
 

lone wolf

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Just as destroying the conservative brand is all that matters to those on the left.

Harper's version of transparency is enhancing to the Conservative brand? Maybe if he'd try a little open honesty....

Ford is a blowhard. Radio knows it well.

Now ... before the dyed-in-Tory-blue set upon me, the thread is about Harper and Ford
 

taxslave

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Harper's version of transparency is enhancing to the Conservative brand? Maybe if he'd try a little open honesty....

Ford is a blowhard. Radio knows it well.

Now ... before the dyed-in-Tory-blue set upon me, the thread is about Harper and Ford

I thought Ford is rather entertaining for someone from Toronto. Course I don't have a horse in the race either.
Transparency is something that all new leaders promise when they obtain power but soon seem to forget about. Harper is just a little more extreme than most.
 

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lone wolf

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I thought Ford is rather entertaining for someone from Toronto. Course I don't have a horse in the race either.

Me either. The rip-of Ontario Northland to ensure funding for GO Transit is a Provincial one.
Transparency is something that all new leaders promise when they obtain power but soon seem to forget about. Harper is just a little more extreme than most.

Power corrupts - no matter what colours one hides behind
 

Cobalt_Kid

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I disagree with Andrew Coyne:

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2013/1...est_n_4462004.html?utm_hp_ref=canada-politics

The mayor is a nine-year-old. A 300-pound, crack-smoking, gangster-hanging, smut-talking, compulsive-lying, staff-bullying nine-year-old.

Rob Ford isn't a child, children can grow up and learn a sense of responsibility and compassion. Ford gives every appearance of being totally unable to care what effect he's having on the people around him.

There's a huge difference between being immature and a psychopath.

"How about, 'I am so sorry,'" the mayor said sarcastically. "Is that as good as I apologize? Or, 'So sorry?' Which one do you want, Madam Speaker? Like, 'Super, super, super, super, super, super, super sorry? So sorry?'"

A little while later, Ford, who is currently under police investigation, pretended to be led from council chambers in handcuffs.

Ford is just displaying that he truly doesn't care about anything but himself.

And prominent conservatives like the PM and Minister of Finance are backing him up.
 

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Actually destroying the Conservative brand is not good and destroying the Liberal brand
is just as bad. We have engaged in scorched earth polarization for far too long and it is
playing hell with our society. Ford is an idiot, Harper is a control freak, Trudeau is we're
not sure and Mulcair is there waiting for someone to make a mistake.
What we need is some vision someone who is will to step up and say we have a problem
that would at least get the ball rolling but no one really wants to say that because then
they would have to have an idea as to how to solve it. We all know we have a problem
what is it that is not so clear if you listen to the politicians. Dragging in the mob and all
is not something we need to spend time on. I am more concerned that Harper and
Ford are friends with (Conrad Black) just had to throw that in.
 

Cobalt_Kid

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You also have to question the existence of a Peter McKay conscience if he thinks that poor criminals should have to sell their belongings to pay fines.

Peter MacKay acting as ‘bully’ on victim fine surcharges, judge says

OTTAWA — An Ontario Court judge said Justice Minister Peter MacKay’s suggestion that poor criminals could sell their belongings to pay the government’s mandatory victim fine surcharge is disappointing, and suggested the minister spend some time in a courtroom.

“You have to understand these people have nothing. That’s the tragedy,” said Waterloo region Ontario Court Justice Colin Westman, one of many judges in Ontario who have found ways to minimize the mandatory penalty by doling out small fines that reduce the victim surcharge to as little as 30 cents.

I can imagine how quickly the naked poor would expire on our freezing streets.

I guess when you live in the modern day equivalent of a palace and get to ride around in military aircraft for leisure then it's hard to relate to those who've been largely left out. Just go spend some time in the main downtown branch of the Edmonton Library if you want to see how crushed some Canadians are in this era of conservative "plenty".

That's the problem in trying to define the world in ideological terms, you forget that humans are real not ideas. The conservatives may be very clever and ruthless at politics, but in the end their inhumanity isn't going to bring us the libertarian nirvana that Harper and his disciples seem to see waiting just ahead...if they just crush everything in the way. Which unfortunately includes a lot of very vulnerable people.
 

Cobalt_Kid

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Wanna bet the boys in short pants in the PMO put this little farce together.

New Conservative Ad: Harper Asks For Help Rebuilding Canada (VIDEO)

Harper wants a free Canada, here's an idea, respect the election laws and stop trying to control the House and the Senate from the PMO.

Harper wants Canada to be a shinning example for the rest of the world, then get out in front of the movement to resolve the climate change issue while we still can instead of pretending it doesn't exist because the oil sector is going to take a hit.

Canada is in the much more vulnerable position it is now because of a leader, who while he's very effective at ruthless politics that has concentrated most of the power in his hands, lacks any real vision for Canada.

What are we going to be in the coming decades, a resource colony for the Chinese then a wasteland as the worst effects of a dramatically changed climate kick in?

I don't know who has the vision to lead us out of this mess, I do know that the current group in power are only really interested in power and it's gone to their heads.