Mike Duffy and the conservative way.

[Cobalt_Kid]

I think Mike Duffy's behaviour during the audit into senators expense accounts is illuminating on how the conservatives in general behave to circumvent and delay the checks and controls in our system meant to prevent and lessen the impacts of abuse of power.

6 surprising things in the Senate expense audits - Politics - CBC News

Co-operation with auditors

Conservative Senator Mike Duffy did not co-operate with Deloitte auditors. He did not provide any documentation. Deloitte had to piece together Duffy's whereabouts using records for his Senate-issued cellphone and Senate-issued American Express corporate credit card

Both Independent Senator Patrick Brazeau and Liberal Senator Mac Harb provided Deloitte with copies of their bank account statements, income tax returns and, in Harb's case, credit card statements. Brazeau does not have any personal credit cards.

When Duffy finally did offer to cooperate with auditors near the end of the process, it came at a time when it would have delayed it.

Meeting with auditors

Both Brazeau and Harb, along with their lawyers, met with Deloitte.

Duffy declined invitations from Deloitte to meet and answer questions. However, Deloitte noted that in late April, when the audit was almost done, Duffy's lawyer sent an email that said Duffy had just offered to meet with the Senate or with Deloitte, presumably to explain his expenses.

But, Deloitte continued, "We understand that the Senate sub-committee notified Senator Duffy that it had agreed Senator Duffy's offer to meet with Deloitte would delay the process, and that the sub-committee agreed that there should be no further delays in the process."

Just one more example of a party who's "success" is built on the principles of deny, delay, distract.

 

[Retired_Can_Soldier]

Holy sh!t you idiot are we going get the site spammed again with your crap? Can't you restrain yourself to one thread or did you forget to take your medication again.

 

[Goober]

Not even Conservative like Duffy - as a matter of fact they despise the tubby little cretin- Many Cons on this Forum have been slamming Duffy before he was in the Senate till now -

Yet again you are late - and more than a dollar short-
So to balance things out, and as I do have a Liberal side I will accept a large cash donation, paper bag weight - 20 lb. Ensure the restaurant is up to a Liberals needs please. As in high cost for the Taxpayer.

Duffy is more akin to that fellow from Cape Breton and Entitled to his Entitlements.

I'm Entitled To My Entitlements - David Dingwall - YouTube

 

[Retired_Can_Soldier]

Not that the moron who put this thread up would mention it, but the investigation into spending actually zeroes in on three different senators. A conservative, a Liberal and an Independent.

Sources say that the Mounties have been investigating the three senators -- Liberal Mac Harb, Conservative Mike Duffy and Independent Patrick Brazeau -- for months, monitoring the ongoing Senate probe and media reports.

Read more: http://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/rcmp...nto-senators-expenses-1.1276945#ixzz2T1WGNiCR

Or take Cobalt (aka the idiot) Kid's version of events and a spam sandwich while your at it.
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[hunboldt]

Nice pantry there, Sarge

 

[Cobalt_Kid]

It makes you wonder if there's a manual provided to all conservative MPs and Senators on how to avoid taking any responsibility for their elected and appointed positions...kind of like the memo that was circulated among the conservative caucus during the early years of the current conservative government on how to shut down Parliament.

There's really something wrong when any party acts as if Parliament is the enemy that must be defeated at any cost. In a sense all Canadians are the Parliament as the members we elect represent us there. By constantly attacking the free functioning of Parliament the conservative government is in fact attacking all of us.

 

[Goober]

It makes you wonder if there's a manual provided to all conservative MPs and Senators on how to avoid taking any responsibility for their elected and appointed positions...kind of like the memo that was circulated among the conservative caucus during the early years of the current conservative government on how to shut down Parliament.

There's really something wrong when any party acts as if Parliament is the enemy that must be defeated at any cost. In a sense all Canadians are the Parliament as the members we elect represent us there. By constantly attacking the free functioning of Parliament the conservative government is in fact attacking all of us.

Then you must despise Chretien as well?

 

[Retired_Can_Soldier]

It makes you wonder if there's a manual provided to all conservative MPs and Senators on how to avoid taking any responsibility for their elected and appointed positions...kind of like the memo that was circulated among the conservative caucus during the early years of the current conservative government on how to shut down Parliament.

There's really something wrong when any party acts as if Parliament is the enemy that must be defeated at any cost. In a sense all Canadians are the Parliament as the members we elect represent us there. By constantly attacking the free functioning of Parliament the conservative government is in fact attacking all of us.

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[Trex]

I think Mike Duffy's behaviour during the audit into senators expense accounts is illuminating on how the conservatives in general behave to circumvent and delay the checks and controls in our system meant to prevent and lessen the impacts of abuse of power.

6 surprising things in the Senate expense audits - Politics - CBC News



When Duffy finally did offer to cooperate with auditors near the end of the process, it came at a time when it would have delayed it.



Just one more example of a party who's "success" is built on the principles of deny, delay, distract.

It's like whack'a'mole.

With 2 seconds reading the OP could have figured out this was a terrible thread starter for a hater.

There is Brazeau who was once nominally Conservative but who's main loyalty is First Nations.
He has been long since chucked out of the Conservative party as a disgrace so enough about him.

That leaves Duffy and Harb.
One a Con and one a LIb.
Both found to be fiddling their expense and housing accounts.
Duffy the Con pays back the money, in full, lickety split.
No quibbles there.
So that's the Con.

The Lib, Harb refuses to pay, publicly says he is entitled to the money .
Even after the commission said that Harb had to pay back the money he has, to date, refused.
He is entitled.

So there, I guess, is the basic difference between a greedy Con and a greedy Lib.

Liberal Senator Pana Merchant has just been accused of offshoring 2 million in the recent income tax evasion stink.
Liberal Seanator Raymond Lavigne actually went to jail for defrauding the people of Canada.
Liberal Senator Andy Thompson sat in South America for years (decades?) and refused to step down from the senate trough.

So why on earth would the OP pick this topic as an example of Conservative malfeasance?

Too lazy to make himself aware of the realities of the real world is my guess.
Blinded by Harper hatred.
Any cut'n'paste will do.

Is it too much to ask the OP to just do a bit of background reading?
Could we please just become somewhat self aware of the issues at hand before haranguing and insulting the forum.
It is a debate after all.

 

[Retired_Can_Soldier]

Cobalt Kid can't see those other senators. He has their shortcomings on ignore.

 

[L Gilbert]

It makes you wonder if there's a manual provided to all conservative MPs and Senators on how to avoid taking any responsibility for their elected and appointed positions...kind of like the memo that was circulated among the conservative caucus during the early years of the current conservative government on how to shut down Parliament.

There's really something wrong when any party acts as if Parliament is the enemy that must be defeated at any cost. In a sense all Canadians are the Parliament as the members we elect represent us there. By constantly attacking the free functioning of Parliament the conservative government is in fact attacking all of us.

So? You constantly attack people's intelligence and objectivity in here.

So why on earth would the OP pick this topic as an example of Conservative malfeasance?

For the same reason he'd snivel and whine incessantly if a Con wore two differently colored socks at the same time. Cons can do no right and Glibs are perfect .......... at least through his coke bottle glasses.

 

[Cobalt_Kid]

SO much for Senate reform and so much for accountability in the federal government.

Duffy's Senate expenses may get 2nd look from auditors - Politics - CBC News

Senator Mike Duffy's expenses may get a second review by independent auditors following media reports regarding expenses he claimed while campaigning for Conservative candidates during the last election.

"In light of yesterday's media reports regarding Senator Duffy's expense claims, senators will be asking that the report concerning Senator Duffy be referred back to committee for further examination taking into account this new information," a spokesperson for Marjory LeBreton, leader of the government in the Senate, told the CBC's Hannah Thibedeau in an email Friday.

Nice "gift" and it contradicts the statements of Duffy who claimed the money came from his own account.

Earlier this week, the Prime Minister's Office confirmed Stephen Harper's chief of staff intervened and wrote a cheque for more than $90,000 to cover the reimbursement of Duffy's expenses.

The admission Nigel Wright had written a personal cheque seemed to contradict Duffy's own explanation of his decision to repay his expenses in April. Harper's office said the prime minister was not previously aware of Wright's decision.

On Friday, Harper's spokesman again defended the cheque, which has been characterized as a "gift" not a loan, as an attempt to quickly resolve the situation.

What are the chances this is just the tip of the iceberg for corruption with a government that has gone to great lengths to conceal what's going on within our government?

Remember Jean Carle and the stink of an un-elected official having so much power within the Chretien government?

Well now it looks like we're starting to get a picture of the same thing within Harper's PMO.

Chris Hall: Senator Duffy and the little matter of accountability - Politics - CBC News

Lured from a stellar business career at Onex Corporation, one of Bay St.'s biggest private equity firms, Wright's job as chief of staff to the prime minister makes him arguably the second most powerful person in the Harper government.

His job is to ensure the wishes of the prime minister are carried out through the whole of government, and to resolve any problems before they threaten to undermine the PM.

Insiders insist that was the role Wright intended to play when he ordered Duffy to repay every cent of the inappropriate expenses two months ago.

When Duffy protested he didn't have the money, Wright stepped in, they say. Without telling the prime minister, he dashed off a personal cheque to get both Duffy off the hook, and a damaging issue off the national agenda.

It went right to the heart of the prime minister's office and is threatening to undermine such key Conservative virtues as respect for taxpayers' money, transparency and political accountability. (Not to mention reforming the Senate.)

We almost certainly have less accountability now than we did under the Liberals, Harper won't even allow independent commissions to be created that actually have the power to look into government as with the Gomery Inquiry. Instead we have his chief of staff acting as a mandarin.

Consider the following.

Duffy told Canadians that he and his wife paid the money back, a claim the most senior non-elected person in the prime minister's office allowed him to make knowing it wasn't true.

In addition, senior cabinet ministers, including Government House Leader Peter Van Loan, perpetuated the myth.

"The fact is that Senator Duffy did the right thing and actually repaid inappropriate sums months ago," Van Loan told the Commons just last week.

Wright's decision to hand over a certified cheque for $90,000 — which the government calls a non-repayable ''gift'' to Duffy — has now sparked an investigation by the Commons ethics commissioner.

What else is the conservative government lying about?

Remember this is the government making decisions on such important issues as climate change and health care, it's also starting to look like a thoroughly dishonest and corrupt government.

 

[Nuggler]

Not that the moron who put this thread up would mention it, but the investigation into spending actually zeroes in on three different senators. A conservative, a Liberal and an Independent.

Sources say that the Mounties have been investigating the three senators -- Liberal Mac Harb, Conservative Mike Duffy and Independent Patrick Brazeau -- for months, monitoring the ongoing Senate probe and media reports.

Read more: RCMP poised to open criminal investigation into senators' expenses | CTV News​

Or take Cobalt (aka the idiot) Kid's version of events and a spam sandwich while your at it.

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Here's the story via CBC this morning: Senator Mike Duffy quits Tory caucus - Politics - CBC News


Turns out as well as being a fat *******, he's a liar like his leadership, and like the ****head who "lent" him the 90K.

Read it RCS.

I don't maintain it's all true, but it's not all false.

 

[Cobalt_Kid]

Just days after Wright took care of Duffy's expenses, the senator informed auditors hired by the Senate to look into questionable expenses that he didn't need to co-operate with their review because he had already repaid the money.

To the opposition, the payment was nothing short of an attempt to thwart the auditors' investigation.

This is corruption at the highest level, we can see the PMO working to stop the legal functioning of Parliament. Because it wasn't in the interests of Harper to have the issue investigated, his chief of staff moved to block the auditors by having Duffy "repay" his illegally gained expenses.

 

[Nuggler]

Also, RCS: Just for fun: Off-limits: Personal attacks, cursing, anything 18+, adult-themed comments !!

Cobalt ain't the sharpest pair of scissors, but sometimes he makes sense. Got it centered with regards to the Duff.

I used to enjoy the Duff on TV years ago, him being just a talking head and all, but now one cant see the head for the neck and the chins,

Quote: Trex.
That leaves Duffy and Harb.
One a Con and one a LIb.
Both found to be fiddling their expense and housing accounts.
Duffy the Con pays back the money, in full, lickety split.
No quibbles there.
So that's the Con........................""

No he didn't.
He said he was going to, then phoned his bum buddy and said he didn't have the coin. His buddy allegedly dug deep into his own pockets and wrote Duff a cheque.

But--------------The great leader didn't know !!!!:roll:

You guys should get jobs as tops; your conbot spin is wonderful.

 

[Cobalt_Kid]

The question is why did Wright do it? Why was it so important to protect Duffy that the prime minister's highly-respected chief of staff went to such lengths to deal with it, and even hid it from Stephen Harper.

For the Conservatives, the damage here is mounting.

The man from Onex, Nigel Wright is the PM's chief of staff and an experienced Ottawa hand. But did he check the conflict rules when he made his gift to Senator Duffy? (Canadian Press)
The senator has never fully apologized for claiming any of these questionable expenses. He's never accepted responsibility.

Instead, he blamed confusing rules about Senate housing allowances, which almost every other senator seems to understand. He blamed a staffer for claiming per diems while he was on vacation in Florida.

And he let someone else repay the money, while continuing to insist he did.

Nigel Wright's conduct is even harder to understand.

Without exception, his friends and colleagues describe him as scrupulous, brilliant and prudent.

Yet, Wright dug into his own pocket for more than $90,000 to make a political headache go away, only to give the government a migraine.

It's not clear at this point whether he, or anyone else in the prime minister's office, checked to see if this $90,000 gift violated the rules of the Commons or the Senate.

Nor has Wright said why he remained silent when Duffy went on television and claimed that he and his wife had decided to repay the money.

I think it's clear why Wright did it, Harper has set an example of contempt for Parliament and Canadians in general and his underlings now have faith that anything they do can be swept under the rug with no consequences.

And then there's the most puzzling question of all. Why did the prime minister, who after all put Duffy in the Senate, not fire him in the first instance when Duffy was apparently balking at repaying the amounts in question.

Harper's spokesman, Andrew Macdougall, says the prime minister still has full confidence in Wright, but refused to answer if the chief of staff had offered to resign.

The key issue here is ministerial accountability. If the prime minister’s chief of staff didn’t tell Harper he was acting as a political fixer on Duffy's behalf, then where is the accountability?

So the problems drag on, with more investigations and more media coverage. The RCMP is also looking into the expense claims.

Duffy is out of the Conservative caucus. Wright continues as Harper's chief of staff.

And the prime minister continues his calculations into whether his most trusted advisor is also more of a liability than an asset to his government.

The longer he takes, the more problematic a wrong answer becomes.

I think the same goes for Harper, why care at all about laws and rules when you can manipulate and circumvent all the checks and balances in the system at will seemingly?

 

[#juan]

One would think that the very basic salary of a senator of $135,500.00 plus expenses, would be enough so that it wouldn't be neccessary to embezzle (sp) even more
to cheat the Canadian people.

 

[Nuggler]

One would think that the very basic salary of a senator of $135,500.00 plus expenses, would be enough so that it wouldn't be neccessary to embezzle (sp) even more
to cheat the Canadian people.

They NEVER have enough, Juan. Never. All of em. Libs and Cons.

 

[Sal]

Also, RCS: Just for fun: Off-limits: Personal attacks, cursing, anything 18+, adult-themed comments !!

Cobalt ain't the sharpest pair of scissors, but sometimes he makes sense. Got it centered with regards to the Duff.

I used to enjoy the Duff on TV years ago, him being just a talking head and all, but now one cant see the head for the neck and the chins,

Quote: Trex.
That leaves Duffy and Harb.
One a Con and one a LIb.
Both found to be fiddling their expense and housing accounts.
Duffy the Con pays back the money, in full, lickety split.
No quibbles there.
So that's the Con........................""

No he didn't.
He said he was going to, then phoned his bum buddy and said he didn't have the coin. His buddy allegedly dug deep into his own pockets and wrote Duff a cheque.

But--------------The great leader didn't know !!!!:roll:

You guys should get jobs as tops; your conbot spin is wonderful.

dead on... I used to support him, but he is one huge screw up now... just another who figured he could line his pockets with MORE. His body alone says: can't get enough. I am shocked he hasn't eaten himself to death.

 

[Mowich]

I think .........etc, etc, etc

Actually..............you don't or you wouldn't bother with your eternal conservative hate campaign. You really need to get a life, kid.