I'd lived in crowded chinese cities, I'd visited Hong Kong, and quite frankly I'm impressed by their efficient use of space. They don't have much by way of suburbs there. You decide. Do you want to live in the city or the country. Make your choice. In the far east they don't have space to waste on suburbs. In that sense I totally agree with Vancouver's approach. You want to live in the city, then live in teh city.